Somchai Logic Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, jaiyen said: So, if your Boss told you to do something that would endanger your life and 100 other people, would you do it without question ?? No, your not that stupid !! Oh, but they are!!! And a steadfast Ambassador of "Thainess" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Geoffggi said: In my mind it is better to loose a job than be responsible for the loss of so many lives.... when you take on a position of captain there comes with it RESPONSIBILITY !!!! A captain losing his job is a major loss of face, not going to happen. Also you are aware of the absolute and manic avoidance of taking responsibility for anything that exists in Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 In Europe such a minister would not even have the time to clear his desk - pathetic! Shows the endless arrogance of those in power ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Mango Bob said: It is the Thai Captain of the Boat that is at fault no one else. Don't place blame on the Chinese when it was the Thai's at fault. . The capital of the boat is the person in charge. Stop blaming others and not yourself. I can see part of what Mango Bob is saying here, when a Thai is put in charge of something, police departments, banks. Immigration offices, ships etc, out comes the fancy uniforms, but most of all, the authority to do much as he likes, he is the boss and must be obeyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan blamed Chinese tour operators for not respecting Thai safety legislation. "Some Chinese use Thai nominees to bring Chinese tourists in ... they did not heed warnings ... which is why this incident happened. This needs to be remedied," Prawit said. He did not elaborate. Bugger all to elaborate is there? It is quite clear from my patented, pocket-sized but voluminous PDME (Politician's Doublespeak and Mispoke Eliminator that the good DPM has clearly said, "These deaths of non-Thai people has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Thai private charter vessel owners OR their local Thai operators and Thai crew OR the Thai government agencies appointed to oversee their safe management and operation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Mango Bob said: It is the Thai Captain of the Boat that is at fault no one else. Don't place blame on the Chinese when it was the Thai's at fault. . The capital of the boat is the person in charge. Stop blaming others and not yourself. Captain of the boat? The owner of the boat ultimately decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, hansnl said: Captain of the boat? The owner of the boat ultimately decided. The Law of the Sea: the vessel captain is ultimately and finally responsible for the safety of the vessel he is commanding and responsible for the safety of the crew and any passengers on that vessel. End of. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The zero dollar tourists only exist through Thai greed and corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, NanLaew said: The Law of the Sea: the vessel captain is ultimately and finally responsible for the safety of the vessel he is commanding and responsible for the safety of the crew and any passengers on that vessel. End of. The owner of the boat has yet to be asked a question as far as I can see. Possibly he is heldup in the woods with his favorite Gik. Thailand is an odd and dangerous place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, pokerface1 said: Could the scenario go....Captain refuses to take the boat out so he is sacked. Then the tour operator hires another captain who is as thick as a plank of wood and he says yes no problems. This is the only reason I can think of as to why he blames the tour operator. Sometime you have to read between the lines for thing to make sense. The media always leave on the hook wanting more information. Then the sacked Captain should alert the authorities... in Theory that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 36 minutes ago, yellowboat said: The owner of the boat has yet to be asked a question as far as I can see. Possibly he is heldup in the woods with his favorite Gik. Thailand is an odd and dangerous place Reports say it's a Thai lady who 'owns' the boat or at least majority company shareholder. And she has been questioned by BiB. Husband is Chinese and worked on boat as a dive master. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 ... what not Thai good Jai in this case? A bit of blindness of....using good judgment. Thus the same issues what can be done? A bit hard to change a cultural behavior, so pervasive in Thai society on display daily... Let the buyers beware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Qualifies for stupid remark of the week from Thai ministers and that takes some doing even after only two days in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 He always blames others TIT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moir Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Mango Bob said: It is the Thai Captain of the Boat that is at fault no one else. Don't place blame on the Chinese when it was the Thai's at fault. . The captain of the boat is the person in charge. Stop blaming others and not yourself. Hello! It's Thailand it's never their fault!!! Always blame Myanmar Laos or others when something goes wrong! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Oziex1 said: A captain losing his job is a major loss of face, not going to happen. Also you are aware of the absolute and manic avoidance of taking responsibility for anything that exists in Asia. After residing here for a number of years I am aware of the way some people avoid taking responsibility, however I cannot condone it and until it sinks in that this kind of attitude cannot continue, to bury my head in the sand and just say this is how it is cannot be an option. Edited July 10, 2018 by Geoffggi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky mike Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Passing the buck ? Accountability, honesty, care gone again..,$$$$ rules supreme ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 One assumes the Captain can count ( well money anyway). Example passengers licensed for 65. Passengers over that number leave the boat or the boat does not sail. Now that is simple but according to the THAI MINISTER OF INANE STUPIDITY it is Chinese Tour Companies at fault. So the owner is Chinese, the Captain is under orders to flout all regulations is he ??? What a stupid statement from an equally stupid man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Well, heaven forbid it should be the boat operator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 ...utterly psycho logic one would argue.... ...another alarming detail....now the total number of passengers on the vessel has been dropped to 101....??? ....is there a God....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddox41 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 In Australia not that easy to be sacked you get 2 verbal warnings and then 2 written warnings so if your a employee and you life is at risk you can refuse. Also the risk of legal action and compensation would be huge if anything went wrong and if your the captin and went out and had the accident you would be liable as would the directors of the company. As for 1 million b compensation that would pay for tranfer of the bodies and the funeral but at least its somthomg I was expecting 0 b compensation. Its a different world here life's cheap there thinking is minute by minute? And there fav saying is: I'm tired I'm hungry I go shower Repeat after chorus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Why do thais always blame other for their cluster fa? Why can't they just admit they alone did wrong instead of shifting blame onto foreigners as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Geoffggi said: After residing here for a number of years I am aware of the way some people avoid taking responsibility, however I cannot condone it and until it sinks in that this kind of attitude cannot continue, to bury my head in the sand and just say this is how it is cannot be an option. I agree, but that's the way it is, has been and will be for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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