clarifications on non oa based on retirement and dependent non o

[jnak]

Hello.  I have been doing research and talking to others for many months now in preparation for my husbands extension of stay based on retirement, but wanted to get some clarification on details please. To give some background, we are both U.S. citizens (he is 49, I am 39) with a 3 year old living in Hua Hin, Thailand.  We are currently on a tourist visa. I will go through what I have found and please let me know if I have anything wrong and also I have a few more questions along the way.  Thank you so much in advance.

 

We will go to the embassy in Bangkok (made an appointment) to get an affidavit to verify that we make the required monthly amount. (rental income)  We will also certify our marriage certificate there, I believe.  Do we need to also certify our son's birth certificate there?  Then we will get them translated into Thai, and take them to the Dept. of Consular affairs to be "legalized".  Again, will we need to get all the documents translated and then legalized there?

 

As soon as my husband turns 50, he will apply for (or convert tourist visa?) to a non - o (tm-86?)  We will make sure he has 15 days left on tourist visa to apply.  (How long does this generally take to get?  A week or something?)   I'm still a little unclear on all the necessary documents needed.  The above mentioned ones of course, but do we also need a hand drawn map of where our house is?  A picture of our family in front of our house (we are renting)? Our rental contract?  Some information from the home owners? (they are Swedish and I believe used a company to buy the home, however that works). A "Personal Data Form"?

 

He then will wait 60 days to apply for his non o-a extension (tm-7). We will bring back all the same documents as when he applied for the non-o? 

 

Myself and our son leave the country and apply for a non o as dependents. (I've heard Ho Chi Mihn is good?) If my husband goes with us, he will have to make sure to get "permission" to leave and pay a fee right?  Do we need all the same documents that my husband needed?  Any additional documents, such as bank account, internet bill with our name on it, etc?

 

Then 45-60 days later, my son and I apply for an extension of non-o to match my husbands time frame. 

 

Sorry so long and detailed, but that's the name of the game here....:)

 

Thanks again so much.  And any other advice or help would be much appreciated.

 

[ubonjoe]

You will to do a affidavit at the embassy to do a self certification of your marriage certificate and your son's birth certificate. They do not need to to be translated since they will be in English.

No need to have photos to do the change of visa status other than for the TM86 application form. The map may be a local requirement in Hua Hin. He will need a copy of the rental agreement and proof ownership for the house by your landlord. Immigration does not use a personal data form.

General requirements for the change is here. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80

Same documents for the extension of stay application. It is not a non-oa extension.

Your husband will need a re-entry permit when he leaves the country to keep his extension valid.

When applying your non-o visa you will only need your marriage and birth certificates. And copies of your husbands passport photo page and extension of stay stamp.

 

 

 

[jnak]

Thanks so much @ubonjoe I appreciate it.

 

Just to clarify, do we still need to get our marriage certificate and birth certificate "legalized" at the dept of consular affairs after the affidavit at the embassy?

 

Also, can my son and I go anywhere out of the country for our dependent non o?  Or are some consulates easier than others?

 

Thanks again!

[ubonjoe]

No need for the legalization. 

It should not be a problem to get the non-o visa at any nearby embassy or consulate.

 

[jnak]

Thank you so much!

[jnak]

Another question came up in my mind...We will get the affidavit to certify monthly income at the US Embassy.  If immigration wants proof of the funds, we can print out however many months of past statements.  But both my husbands and my name are on the account.  Do you know if they would just want his name on it only? (I wondered because of that requirement if he were to prove he has 800,000 THB in a bank here...)  Thank you.

[ubonjoe]

Having a joint account in your case will not be a problem since your husband is not using the 800k baht in the bank option.

[jnak]

Thanks! @ubonjoe