Tall buildings suitable for stair running?

[NCC1701A]

7 minutes ago, ndfdjnd said:

 

Because it's too many breaks, I'd want ideally 10 minutes of continuous climbing with no rest stops, which would be about 50 floors.  But I'd settle for around half that.  7 stories would be less than a minute and not worthwhile I think.

 

 

carry a compressed air tank and you can join a fire department in the USA. Good retirement benefits.  

[MJKT2014]

9 minutes ago, ndfdjnd said:

Nobody would know

Obviously trolling, so I'm outta here. Even the sleepiest security Somchai knows who lives in a condo and who don't. Private property 'nuff said.

[ndfdjnd]

How on earth can somebody recognise and know all 2000+ people in a building, when every month there are hundreds of new people moving in and out, getting new partners, having friends around for dinner.

 

Most Thais are not interested in the concept of private property, or to the adherence of rules or regulations in general.  As long as you are not harming anybody they let you get on with your thing.

 

It is the foreigners who have been born and raised in litigious states who have grown accustomed to the authoritarian way of doing things and feel a greater sense of self-entitlement should their rights be 'encroached' upon.

[Briggsy]

Put on a shirt (to look the part) and just go into a number of suitable looking office blocks. I am sure the stairs will be accessible in some. Once you know where to go, you can dispense with the office gear.

[gaff]

So it is true that idiot do not know that they are ?!

 

 

[gaff]

On 8/29/2018 at 2:11 AM, ndfdjnd said:

I rarely wear shoes to run, it's bad for injuries and shin splints.  I wouldn't be wearing any shoes when running on stairs.  Even if I were to be wearing shoes I never make any noise when running uphill, and I've never noticed anybody else making any noise when running uphill, either.  Downhill or on the flat, yes, but not uphill.  Maybe you're used to treadmills, those things always make a lot of noise even when running on an incline.

 

Do you have any suggestions for buildings in Bangkok with unrestricted staircases and lifts, ronniepickering?

 

 

A real champion ! Someone who still doesn't know how running is bad for the body compared to elliptical machines...

[ndfdjnd]

I checked out Century Mall at Onnut today.  There are different stairwells in the carpark, some blocked off but at least one taking you up to the top floor which is the equivalent of about 12-13 condo stories.  It's 30 small flights of stairs anyway, about 8 stairs per flight.  Problem is there are no lifts in the carpark and the one in the mall only goes to floor 4 until they finish building the mall when it will go to floor 8.

 

The hotel on top of this mall is still being built but I think that might have accessible stairs right to the top, that must be 40+ floors.  I'll probably end up using this place because it's so close to where I live, and just take my time walking down.

 

Also had a look at a number of condos but all the stairs are only for use when there's a fire.

 

I'll check out the office blocks around Phrom Phong/Asoke sometime, lots of high-rises there around the lake right?

[ndfdjnd]

1 hour ago, gaff said:

A real champion ! Someone who still doesn't know how running is bad for the body compared to elliptical machines...

 

 

If you stride 180 times per minute it is unlikely that you will get injured, the people who get injured are the people jogging at 140 per minute or somewhere around there, their stride is too long and it means they impact the ground harder.  You need to skim across the ground.  And certain types of bodies are more prone to injury as well.  If you are overweight you will put stress on your bones and joints and you will get stress reactions and stress fractures even if you stride perfectly and you have the perfect type of running shoe for your gait, and especially if you don't.

 

In any case this is not relevant to a discussion about climbing stairs, it is very unlikely you will get injured going up.  Sore muscles, sure, but no joint or bone issues.

[TBKK]

Running stairs is an excellent work out.......better than jogging.

Friend turned me on to it a few years ago..........didn't realize it was so difficult until I tried it.

I ran in the Bangkok Vertical Marathon last year which was a vertical run 61 floors up to the top of the Banyon Tree Hotel on Sathorn Road.

I don't have any problem with my legs running down the stairs so I don't need to take an elevator down to the first floor.

My joints started to bother me when jogging on concrete but I don't have that problem with the stairs.

[ndfdjnd]

I'm also doing one of those vertical marathons this year, hence the thread.  This one is 70 floors.

 

I worry that even if you don't feel your joints aching at the time , running down isn't going to be good for you longterm.  I run trails sometimes and going down the hills does feel heavy on the joints, but I suppose if you take your time and tread like you're on eggshells it wouldn't be so bad.

[Fairynuff]

7 hours ago, ndfdjnd said:

Really?  So everybody walking into a hotel is trespassing?  An office block?  Mall?  Why have I never seen any reports of these people being prosecuted?  I would have thought Thaivisa would lap up those stories, yet nothing.

So you think apartment blocks and condos are public places like shopping malls and hotels? Maybe on your planet but not in my world. I’d have security on you in a flash

[TBKK]

5 minutes ago, ndfdjnd said:

I'm also doing one of those vertical marathons this year, hence the thread.  This one is 70 floors.

 

I worry that even if you don't feel your joints aching at the time , running down isn't going to be good for you longterm.  I run trails sometimes and going down the hills does feel heavy on the joints, but I suppose if you take your time and tread like you're on eggshells it wouldn't be so bad.

Have been running down the stairs for about 5 years and haven't experienced any problems.

Always felt stress on my joints when jogging on concrete but haven't had any problem with the stairs.

Best workout that I've come across!

[Thian]

Thailand has budha's on the mountains with very long stairs to them. 

[ndfdjnd]

42 minutes ago, Fairynuff said:

So you think apartment blocks and condos are public places like shopping malls and hotels?

Yeah, pretty much.  No idea what the law is on the matter but the law (especially on petty things like this) is not really that relevant in Thailand.  It'd only matter if the residents cared, and since they will mostly be Thai and not foreigners sticking their noses in, it would never be an issue.  If security took an interest independently, which I accept they might, then I'd simply smile and move on.

 

The type of condos that would likely work would not be the high end places lining Sukhumvit for 15000 a month, they'll be the 15 year old buildings in the arse end of nowhere, e.g. Lat Phrao.  I think likely to have no keycard access and accessible stairs.

[ndfdjnd]

41 minutes ago, TBKK said:

Have been running down the stairs for about 5 years and haven't experienced any problems.

 

So where do you train?

[Fairynuff]

2 minutes ago, ndfdjnd said:

Yeah, pretty much.  No idea what the law is on the matter but the law (especially on petty things like this) is not really that relevant in Thailand.  It'd only matter if the residents cared, and since they will mostly be Thai and not foreigners sticking their noses in, it would never be an issue.  If security took an interest independently, which I accept they might, then I'd simply smile and move on.

 

The type of condos that would likely work would not be the high end places lining Sukhumvit for 15000 a month, they'll be the 15 year old buildings in the arse end of nowhere, e.g. Lat Phrao.  I think likely to have no keycard access and accessible stairs.

Like I said....you’re on another planet. Security in my building wouldn’t need to be told to turf you out, they’d just do it. You wouldn’t get beyond the lobby

[ndfdjnd]

The problem is with a viewpoint like yours you're clearly not the sort of person who has any experience in the matter you are talking about.  I've had gym memberships in a condo where I had no keycard before, the gym was on the 10th floor and the lift had keycard access for specific floors.  I had no problem just waiting for somebody to come along to access the lift.  Used the gym and the same on the way back down.

 

Maybe you have this perception of Thai security guards being alert or 'on the case'.  Which is generally not my experience.  But like I said, there's a big difference between a new condo on Sukhumvit and a dingy place off some back alley.  You're probably more accustomed to something similar to the former.

[richard_smith237]

Bangkok has a Vertical Marathon every year at the Banyan Tree...

 

http://www.gotorace.com/event/vertical-marathon-2018/

 

But, you probably know this already, are probably training for it and given your comments will likely win it !!!... 

 

On the off chance you are unaware...  perhaps contact them and see if the know where you may be able to train for this Vertical Marathon...  Failing that - there are a few disused / incomplete towers in Bangkok (such as Sathorns Unique Tower) but of course, no lift back down so perhaps combine with base jumping...  seriously though, its a tough question and it'll be tricky to find a solution unless its somewhere you live and have arranged with condo management... 

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2018 by richard_smith237

[ndfdjnd]

It's funny you should mention that tower, I've been wanting to get up there for a while (just for the view, not to run), but they've tight security and I refuse to pay bribes.  There are some blogs about people getting up there for 1000 baht or thereabouts.  And there was also a guy found hanged in there, he was a european from memory.  It struck me as a bit of a strange place for somebody to go to kill themselves, and also that he'd managed to find a wooden ladder perfect for the job to stand on, he certainly didn't carry it in with him.  Anyway I decided against it.

 

I'm doing a different race, I forget where but registration opens next week and the event is in October sometime I think. 

[Chou Anou]

There's probably not a building in Bangkok where, if security caught you doing that, they wouldn't have you out on your ass in the street in 5 minutes.

[ndfdjnd]

11 minutes ago, Chou Anou said:

There's probably not a building in Bangkok where, if security caught you doing that, they wouldn't have you out on your ass in the street in 5 minutes.

We must be living in different Bangkoks.  Either that or I have a face where people feel less inclined to have me 'on my ass'

[Ks45672]

On 8/29/2018 at 1:52 AM, ndfdjnd said:

 

So you're not going to tell me how you are going to hear me running up stairs, then?

 

I didn't ask for a condo, I asked for a condo, apartment, or any other high-rise building.  Read properly before making useless posts, it will save you time and me time too.

I lived in a condo with 40 odd floors and I used to jog up and down the stairs for exercise from the basement to the roof

It's way more effective and less time consuming vs jogging on a treadmill or cycling and if it gets too easy, bring a sandbag or 5 gallon of water to make it more challenging 

 

Oho, expect a few funny looks from security until they get used to you, they're not used to seeing people take the stairs unless the lift is broken.... ?

 

 

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

You’ll find most office and condo towers stairwells in Bangkok will be blocked with boxes and old furniture, “ free storage”

Safety? Pfft... this is Thailand.

[The manic]

5 hours ago, ndfdjnd said:

The problem is with a viewpoint like yours you're clearly not the sort of person who has any experience in the matter you are talking about.  I've had gym memberships in a condo where I had no keycard before, the gym was on the 10th floor and the lift had keycard access for specific floors.  I had no problem just waiting for somebody to come along to access the lift.  Used the gym and the same on the way back down.

 

Maybe you have this perception of Thai security guards being alert or 'on the case'.  Which is generally not my experience.  But like I said, there's a big difference between a new condo on Sukhumvit and a dingy place off some back alley.  You're probably more accustomed to something similar to the former.

Any ar*e hole running up and down the stairs of a condo, hotel or any private building would be kicked out. Such an activity is a possible cover for criminality to say nothing of the.disturbabance and intrusion.  I don't want to see some sweaty, panting jock running around my family. I would call the police to arrest you. What an entitled idiot. Deluded as to their rights and imprtance.

Edited August 29, 2018 by The manic

[Ks45672]

9 minutes ago, The manic said:

Any ar*e hole running up and down the stairs of a condo, hotel or any private building would be kicked out. Such an activity is a possible cover for criminality to say nothing of the.disturbabance and intrusion.  I don't want to see some sweaty, panting jock running around my family. I would call the police to arrest you. What an entitled idiot. Deluded as to their rights and imprtance.

Police lol

Have you ever tried calling the Thai police? 

Our neighbour was beating the crap out of his screaming wife  and they were not interested on the phone or in the flesh when we tried to report it to save her 

 

[ndfdjnd]

On 8/30/2018 at 7:39 AM, WorriedNoodle said:

Cannot see you lasting in Thailand long with attitudes like this.

Not altogether sure why but by your logic (assuming your logic is something along the lines of "break petty laws get kicked out of a country") I'd last longer here than in any western country, you'd agree?

[ndfdjnd]

On 8/29/2018 at 10:27 PM, The manic said:

Any ar*e hole running up and down the stairs of a condo, hotel or any private building would be kicked out. Such an activity is a possible cover for criminality to say nothing of the.disturbabance and intrusion.  I don't want to see some sweaty, panting jock running around my family. I would call the police to arrest you. What an entitled idiot. Deluded as to their rights and imprtance.

Total nonsense from start to finish as many posts from people who have done exactly what I am enquiring about clearly prove.

 

Do you have holes in your wall?  No?  So how are you going to see?  The police would fine you for wasting their time and I'd jog past and laugh at you.

 

"Such an activity is a possible cover for criminality"  The stupidest thing on this thread so far and there are quite a few contenders.

[CharlieH]

Petty bickering posts removed

[Lacessit]

The OP should move to one of the mountain temples - Mae Hong Son would be ideal for him. No lifts to get back down, though.

[ndfdjnd]

The Tiger Cave Temple in Krabi is the best one I've found for this.  1200 almost vertical steps.  I've not been to Mae Hong Son before.