I remember once I was at a park with some thai people. I had a small bag of garbage I was carrying well looking for a garbage bin. This Thai guy with us said give it to him he would take care of it. He immediately stuffed the garbage in a planter right beside him and said ok lets go.

49 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Difference is, the Flippers unlike thais dont blame it on the Foreigners

Actually, they do, hence the comparison. I have seen reams of arguments on Facebook where they deny it vehemently. 

 

To the point they will complain about a party that has hired people to pick up its trash after, while ignoring the fact that the garbage from the local families and their visiting hangers on remains on the beach 200 meters away around the point. 

 

Denial is not uniquely Thai, just ask the guy next to you with a combover. 

Edited October 18, 20187 yr by HooHaa

51 minutes ago, baansgr said:

How can people that have no respect or shame for themselves be expected to have respect for anything else, you cant change a leopards spots.

It has nothing to do with shame, it has to do with education, law enforcement, relative wealth and an entirely different set of cultural values which have never adapted to the present day reality. 

3 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

Its a new Hub

Hub of the Facepalm. 

 

Ps  Thais should just blame the Chinese

that will get them back real quick !!!!!!!! 

Not far wrong, Thailand 'disposes'  plastic and electrical waste from China, all for a cost of course.  They dont do a very good job of it

3 hours ago, baansgr said:

I suppose thats why Jomtien beach is relatively clean most of the time but once its a thai holiday, the rubbish is unbelievable....saw a girl in a restaurant yesterday picking her nose and rolling her bogies....dirty unclean nation

Remember all the garbage at the palace after the funeral , no more to be said really that is how much they really think of Thailand

2 hours ago, observer90210 said:

I to have big fun "cleaning up" the beaches in Spain or South of France with my metal detector !!???? ...always find lot's of coins and other funny stuff on the beaches in EU.

 

Was not such a good catch in Thailand however as people seem richer and only seem to carry currency notes, as very few coins were found on the beach at Phuket ! ????

I knew a Spanish man that did the same he often found treasure on the beach, best i see was a gold watch.

Ive only seen one metal detector in Thailand and was a westerner

Also once in Ibiza some young dutch teens were going around swimming pools diving to the bottom finding money from drunk brits, easy money lol

This foreigner doesn't throw trash, and quite often I pick stuff up and put it in a bin. Not sure it doesn't eventually end up in the sea, but at least I know I didn't put it there.

Thai will blame anyone but themselves for Rubbish they are in.. 

A few more bins around might help a bit, there hard to find.

1 hour ago, HooHaa said:

It has nothing to do with shame, it has to do with education, law enforcement, relative wealth and an entirely different set of cultural values which have never adapted to the present day reality. 

I like this sentence a lot. 

6 minutes ago, Oziex1 said:

A few more bins around might help a bit, there hard to find.

Not really an excuse with the amount of bags they could put the rubbish in and take it home..

2 hours ago, jimmynewbie said:

Not really an excuse with the amount of bags they could put the rubbish in and take it home..

Thats the crux of it like I said earlier.

 

The Thai’s themselves need to come to the mindset that dumping garbage wherever is not OK.

 

Right now, I don’t think even if they had garbage cans in the road they’d actually use them.

 

It’s really quite sad, since you can have the most beautiful vista in Thailand, and you can almost guarantee there will be plastic bags, styrofoam boxes or some other junk in your picture.

I think that most of the rubbish washed up on beaches comes from boats at sea, and not necessarily all Thai vessels.

I lived near a fishing village. Sometimrs they would just empty their bins in the sea. Other times they would use a plastic bag for their rubbish and walk up and throw the bags in the sea. It did make me wonder the logic that they made their money from the sea but also use it as a rubbish bin. When I was young in Australia people threw rubbish everywhere but they had very effective TV campaigns and is better now. Too logical a solution for Thailand.

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5 hours ago, seajae said:

wife's office is at the local port, I often go down to say hi during the day and watch those fishing. Its not unusual to see mum and dad rock up with their rods and several bags of household rubbish. The rubbish gets thrown into the water on the inside shallows of the jetty then they take their rods and start fishing on the other side, rubbish is simply thrown where ever they want, thais have no respect for their country as can be seen by all the crap they throw on the streets, gutters and any waterways. Its also seen when they do it overseas when on tours, they do what ever is easiest for them.

Sadly, I must agree with your post. On my very first trip to Thailand, I recall asking my gf of the time, "why is there heaps of garbage beside most homes?".

So logically, when out in public, they do the same thing.

 

The government desires to increase tourism. A strict, long term educational campaign and garbage collection/recycling program would eventually boost tourism. I have met persons in my home country, who when they become aware that I travel to Thailand, comment about how dirty the country is.

 

It would have been ideal to include such a campaign in the junta 20 year plan. That's about how long it will take to be successful.

Thais complaining about farangs should look outside their house first and they will spot their own pile of trash. Any soi in Thailand can be worse than a tourist beach. 

  

 

 

4 hours ago, jimmynewbie said:

Ive only seen one metal detector in Thailand and was a westerner

I own a metal detector and have used it a few times in Thailand. It's good exercise. I also pick up trash . 

 

16 minutes ago, balo said:

Thais complaining about farangs should look outside their house first and they will spot their own pile of trash. Any soi in Thailand can be worse than a tourist beach. 

  

 

 

As i said earlier they left the palace trashed after the funeral and do on birthdays, they are a disgrace.

Many need more mirrors to see the real problem

59 minutes ago, jimmynewbie said:

As i said earlier they left the palace trashed after the funeral and do on birthdays, they are a disgrace.

Many need more mirrors to see the real problem

Well hold on, probably only a few more hours and the apologists will chip in, '‘what about your country ‘insert whatever’ blah blah”

It follows a pretty familiar pattern.

 

And the trouble is it’s all so sad. Thailand is a beautiful country, yet it’s blighted by garbage everywhere, and nobody seems to care.

11 hours ago, marko kok prong said:

Oh come on,i have seen large groups of Thai's all sit down to eat and leave all the foam/plastic box's cup and plastic cutlery in a big heap under a tree,not many foreigners do that.

Go to the Gold Coast as see what some of the pigs leave in the parks after a long day of picnicing, bloody disgusting the amount of trash left for the council to pick up. I was amazed last time i was there at what the grubs were leaving.

 

On second thoughts its a tourist area, so its probably the foreigners or refugees being grubs.

Quote

A women got an unexpected fight after throwing her trash out a car window. A motorbike pulled up alongside her and its driver threw the trash back.

https://www.scmp.com/video/china/2165181/passerby-throws-trash-back-litterbugs-car

I guess that foreigners are also responsible for all the disgraceful "fly tipping" that we see in and around most villages/towns/cities ...

2 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Well hold on, probably only a few more hours and the apologists will chip in, '‘what about your country ‘insert whatever’ blah blah”

It follows a pretty familiar pattern.

 

And the trouble is it’s all so sad. Thailand is a beautiful country, yet it’s blighted by garbage everywhere, and nobody seems to care.

You should be prayuts new fortune teller see Aussieroaming comment straight after yours, so so sad.

 

54 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

Go to the Gold Coast as see what some of the pigs leave in the parks after a long day of picnicing, bloody disgusting the amount of trash left for the council to pick up. I was amazed last time i was there at what the grubs were leaving.

 

On second thoughts its a tourist area, so its probably the foreigners or refugees being grubs.

Right on cue, this is a Thai forum not Aus.

I find Aus very clean compared to Thailand, get fined for littering even a cig butt

In all my time there did not ever see them throwing rubbish into rivers, fisherman did not throw rubbish over the sides.

Gold Coast must be really bad compared to Sunshine coast although i doubt it

 

This is the year 2018 not 1918.... other nations have machines that start cleaning the beach at day break and are usually finished in good time for people to enjoy a clean beach for the day... thats one man (operator) and one machine (pending on length / size of beach).  It's not rocket science and you cant tell me these local councils don't have enough cash in their kitty to buy such equipment. 

15 minutes ago, pattayadgw said:

This is the year 2018 not 1918.... other nations have machines that start cleaning the beach at day break and are usually finished in good time for people to enjoy a clean beach for the day... thats one man (operator) and one machine (pending on length / size of beach).  It's not rocket science and you cant tell me these local councils don't have enough cash in their kitty to buy such equipment. 

Exactly , sure they would make money buying them too, nice fat brown envelopes, but would they work..

There has been some docu's in the UK on recently about plastic, there are also machines that clean the rivers they collect rubbish as they float along

Edited October 18, 20187 yr by jimmynewbie

1 hour ago, jimmynewbie said:

You should be prayuts new fortune teller see Aussieroaming comment straight after yours, so so sad.

 

I knew I was on pretty solid ground with that prediction! LOL

11 hours ago, HooHaa said:

 

 

Denial is not uniquely Thai, just ask the guy next to you with a combover. 

The combover is not denial. It's positive action to fix a problem. doing nothing would be denial that there is a problem in the first place. Maybe a wrong action choice. I would recommend a transplant. 

Go see Dr DAMNKERNG

if you want your hair back.  I recommend him. 

I have a Thai neighbor back in the States! Believe me they bring their discusting filthy habits with them when they relocate. Awful!

 

4 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

I guess that foreigners are also responsible for all the disgraceful "fly tipping" that we see in and around most villages/towns/cities ...

Normal view, on any day,  in soi's in Thailand.

Thailand in one word,  DUMP.  

The issue is not Thais or foreigners throwing garbage on the beach or road but whether there is a gov system in place to operationally manage and enforce a proper waste management system?

 

in 19 years here, I have not seen one and there is daily evidence that an effective one doesn’t exists....