dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 So I got a Tourist visa from a low level consulate in the US and it was written in pen instead of typed like i've gotten every other time. Anyway, one drunken night a girl I've been seeing added a 2 in front of both the arrival and departure date because she didn't want me to go so soon. The next morning I saw what she did and I crossed out the 2's but it obviously looks extremely sketchy. My question is, what will happen at immigration? Will they not even care because the visa is still the correct date when they scan it in the system? Or will they question me, deny entry, and/or possible ban for tampering? The other option would be to wait until the visa expires, and then just enter on 30 days free. But even then, I feel like they'd take a look at the old expired visa right? Please let me know your thoughts on what I should do. This is a really shitty position to be in and I don't know what my best course of action should be. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheMysteriousMrTesla Posted October 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2018 Authorities the world over take a very dim view of attempts to forge/alter official documentation. "Papers not in order" could lead to arrest, denial of entry, or even being made "persona non-Gratia". Time to get a new passport, new visa and a new girlfriend. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 There is no arrival or departure date on a visa. Do you mean the date of issue and the date it expires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: There is no arrival or departure date on a visa. Do you mean the date of issue and the date it expires? yes that is what i meant sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheMysteriousMrTesla said: Authorities the world over take a very dim view of attempts to forge/alter official documentation. "Papers not in order" could lead to arrest, denial of entry, or even being made "persona non-Gratia". Time to get a new passport, new visa and a new girlfriend. thats what i was afraid of. the thing is, i just got a new big book expedited passport, and i lost a passport a few years ago. i was doing some research and it said that if you lose your passport twice within 10 years that their could be an investigation and possible denial of passport. seems just as risky i think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 another option would be to contact the original consulate that issued it to me and explain the situation, maybe they can void it and issue a new one. any other thoughts guys? or odds on them caring at immigration? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, dumbfarang18 said: yes that is what i meant sorry Can you type in a example of the original altered dates? Is it a single entry or multiple entry visa? If it is a single entry visa I doubt a immigration office would have a reason to look at your visa again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Can you type in a example of the original altered dates? Is it a single entry or multiple entry visa? If it is a single entry visa I doubt a immigration office would have a reason to look at your visa again. single entry, issue - 9 sep, expires - 8 dec the 2's were placed infront of the 9 and 8 to make it 29 and 28 and then the 2's were crossed out. do you mean they wouldn't look at it if i enter after it expires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, dumbfarang18 said: single entry, issue - 9 sep, expires - 8 dec the 2's were placed infront of the 9 and 8 to make it 29 and 28 and then the 2's were crossed out. do you mean they wouldn't look at it if i enter after it expires? That change on a single entry visa really means nothing after you have already entered the country with it. It is already useless for all intents and purposes since you have already used it. Does it have a used stamp on it done by immigration. I cannot think of a reason for an officer to pay any attention to it after it has been used already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crossy Posted October 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2018 My understanding is that our OP is not yet in Thailand so his visa hasn't been used at this point. @dumbfarang18 is that correct? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Crossy said: My understanding is that our OP is not yet in Thailand so his visa hasn't been used at this point. @dumbfarang18 is that correct? yes exactly crossy you are correct. any advice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: That change on a single entry visa really means nothing after you have already entered the country with it. It is already useless for all intents and purposes since you have already used it. Does it have a used stamp on it done by immigration. I cannot think of a reason for an officer to pay any attention to it after it has been used already. i have not tried to enter the country on it yet as im scared of how things will play out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elviajero Posted October 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) The visa allows you to enter on any date before December 8th, so as long as you enter on or before that date you are still entering within the terms the visa was issued. Whether or not an IO would spot the change or do anything about it is unknown. I certainly wouldn’t try entering after Dec 8th. IMO the best advice would be to contact the consulate and get the date formally change back, or have the visa voided and a new one issued. Edited October 20, 2018 by elviajero 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, dumbfarang18 said: i have not tried to enter the country on it yet as im scared of how things will play out Not sure what would happen. They may not pay in to any notice if you enter before the original date. I probably would of left the alerted dates if I planned on entering after the altered date of issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeahbutwhytho Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) If questioned just said the consulate did it when issuing the visa No issues Edited October 20, 2018 by Yeahbutwhytho 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, elviajero said: The visa allows you to enter on any date before December 8th, so as long as you enter on or before that date you are still entering within the terms the visa was issued. Whether or not an IO would spot the change or do anything about it is unknown. I certainly wouldn’t try entering after Dec 8th. IMO the best advice would be to contact the consulate and get the date formally change back, or have the visa voided and a new one issued. wait really? why wouldn't you enter after the 8th? you think it'd be more risky to enter with an unused visa? ya, that seems like a good plan, i'll call the consulate on monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 37 minutes ago, Crossy said: My understanding is that our OP is not yet in Thailand so his visa hasn't been used at this point. @dumbfarang18 is that correct? 33 minutes ago, dumbfarang18 said: yes exactly crossy you are correct. any advice? 'Anyway, one drunken night a girl I've been seeing added a 2 in front of both the arrival and departure date because she didn't want me to go so soon." - So a drunken girl in your home country didn't want you to leave your home country and go to Thailand so early since you are still there? A non-Thai drunken girl in your home country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Yeahbutwhytho said: If questioned just said the consulate did it when issuing the visa No issues lol.....???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Yeahbutwhytho said: If questioned just said the consulate did it when issuing the visa No issues ya that was my plan, just didn't know how believable theyd think it was, cause they write it before they put the visa in passport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, bbi1 said: 'Anyway, one drunken night a girl I've been seeing added a 2 in front of both the arrival and departure date because she didn't want me to go so soon." - So a drunken girl in your home country didn't want you to leave your home country and go to Thailand so early since you are still there? A non-Thai drunken girl in your home country? unfortunately yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, dumbfarang18 said: wait really? why wouldn't you enter after the 8th? you think it'd be more risky to enter with an unused visa? Because the visa, as issued, expires on the 8th. You gain nothing from the alteration by entering on or before the 8th; however, after that date you are using a visa that has technically expired and are trying to deceive immigration. Once you’ve entered the country the visa is used and it’s expiry date is irrelevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted October 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just tell them some little girl had gotten your book and then played by adding numbers and then crossed it out. Sort of the truth. Let them think it is a young kid like a niece or little sister or something 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Go back to the consulate and tell them your neighbours kid got hold of your passport and thought it would be funny to write on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbfarang18 Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 thank you for the suggestions everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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