1 hour ago, Grouse said:

No reference that I saw. Please re post

Post No.57 then just google "The real face of the European Union" and enjoy.

 

Or a link: 

 

But methinks you've seen it before.

Edited October 21, 20187 yr by nauseus

10 hours ago, 473geo said:

Ease of entry - the crux of the brexit vote me thinks

That is the crux of Brexiteer misunderstanding. We're not in Schengen and have complete control of movement from outside the EU. One problem is we fail to implement controls in EU migration available to us. Another is that we don't monitor migration properly; who's in, who's out - the basics

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

Post No.57 then just google "The real face of the European Union" and enjoy.

 

Or a link: 

 

But methinks you've seen it before.

I haven't seen it but I will watch it now.

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

Post No.57 then just google "The real face of the European Union" and enjoy.

 

Or a link: 

 

But methinks you've seen it before.

Brexiteer thinks he’s found a killer argument in hyperbole and hogwash laced anti EU propaganda video.

 

I guess it’s the spitfires flying overhead of a fluttering Union Jack that does it.

Edited October 22, 20187 yr by Chomper Higgot

On 10/21/2018 at 6:31 AM, rooster59 said:

Brendan Heading, a 39-year-old IT worker, said he was worried the decision to leave the EU would damage the economy and could lead to the break up of the United Kingdom.

Well Brendan, I beg to differ:

20 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Well Brendan, I beg to differ:

Oh look a graph.

 

And it states 'Source: Office of National Statistics' but it actually comes from AmstrongEconomics.com and outfit run by a guy called 'Martin Armstrong'.

 

 

This 'Martin Armstrong':

 

https://www.desmogblog.com/martin-armstrong

 

 

 

 

 

In 1972 my homecountry voted YES to EF - now EU - so I would like a re-vote please …   Dumbbells

1 hour ago, 300sd said:

Well Brendan, I beg to differ:

 

Excellent. Thanks for posting.

 

Remainers can't accept the facts as shown by data collected by the Office of National Statistics, so will attack the person who created the graph instead!

11 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

 

Excellent. Thanks for posting.

 

Remainers can't accept the facts as shown by data collected by the Office of National Statistics, so will attack the person who created the graph instead!

Why is this graph (with figures only up to 2011) even relevant to the Brexit debate???

12 hours ago, nauseus said:

and benefits ..........

Are you referring to EU migrants or RoW?

 

EU migrants are a net benefit to us. AND we should apply existing EU regs to reduce the flow

48 minutes ago, whatsupdoc said:

Why is this graph (with figures only up to 2011) even relevant to the Brexit debate???

Why is the graph relevant to the Brexit debate? It is a stark counter to the arguments put forth by the EU and remainers that Britain's economy will fail without the EU. In short, the graph shows that Britain has experienced declining economic growth since it joined the EU.

Brexit will allow the UK to set up trade deals directly with countries outside the EU, including the USA. Loss in trade with Europe will be more than offset with trade with other countries. Europe will be the biggest loser from a Brexit, not the UK.

7 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

Why is the graph relevant to the Brexit debate? It is a stark counter to the arguments put forth by the EU and remainers that Britain's economy will fail without the EU. In short, the graph shows that Britain has experienced declining economic growth since it joined the EU.

 

Brexit will allow the UK to set up trade deals directly with countries outside the EU, including the USA. Loss in trade with Europe will be more than offset with trade with other countries. Europe will be the biggest loser from a Brexit, not the UK.

 

Change your medication as you are clearly hallucinating  ????

1 hour ago, Antonymous said:

 

Excellent. Thanks for posting.

 

Remainers can't accept the facts as shown by data collected by the Office of National Statistics, so will attack the person who created the graph instead!

Never believe Brexiter sums

 

They don't really do stats

 

https://ourworldindata.org/economic-growth

 

 

26 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Are you referring to EU migrants or RoW?

 

EU migrants are a net benefit to us. AND we should apply existing EU regs to reduce the flow

Both. But in this case particularly the EU. The supposed net benefit of EU immigrants is debatable, as all the impacts have not been factored in, especially w.r.t suppressed wages for British workers due to competition from cheaper EU immigrant labour. If the large companies are what are really being considered here, then yes, they do well. But for the average Briton, I don't think so.

 

I agree that existing regs should be fully enforced.   

53 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

Why is the graph relevant to the Brexit debate? It is a stark counter to the arguments put forth by the EU and remainers that Britain's economy will fail without the EU. In short, the graph shows that Britain has experienced declining economic growth since it joined the EU.

 

Brexit will allow the UK to set up trade deals directly with countries outside the EU, including the USA. Loss in trade with Europe will be more than offset with trade with other countries. Europe will be the biggest loser from a Brexit, not the UK.

 

It’s a picture drawn by a convicted fraudster on which he, the convicted fraudster, has written ‘Source: Office for a National Statistics’.

 

It’s meaningless hogwash, fed to and swallowed by the gullible.

a pro-brexit stance doesn't last long on this board...

 

23 minutes ago, evadgib said:

a pro-brexit stance doesn't last long on this board...

 

???

 

There are more than a few remainers and brexiters on these various threads - and no-one has won the argument, as it's impossible to predict the future.

 

Edit - But we 'mostly' argue amongst each other (i.e. I'm trying to ignore the remainers slurs against brexiters...), with neither 'side' failing to make their point, or lose the 'argument'.

Edited October 22, 20187 yr by dick dasterdly

On 10/21/2018 at 12:22 PM, vogie said:

What part of "The government will impliment what you decide" don't you understand?

 

"Impliment". Can't find it in any dictionary.

On 10/21/2018 at 1:00 PM, vogie said:

David Cameron prior to the referendum told the nation on the Andrew Marr Show that if the country voted to leave the EU that meant also leaving the single market. It was all very transparent, but over time people believe what they want to believe, people believe the rubbish that is written in the papers and what they view on the left wing tv.

People can go on about the referendum till the cows come home, but in reality Parliament voted for the nation to have this referendum.

You seem to have believed the rubbish you viewed on the "left wing tv" (Andrew Marr Show).

14 minutes ago, Stupooey said:

"Impliment". Can't find it in any dictionary.

Grammer police, reported.

On 10/21/2018 at 2:08 PM, nauseus said:

But they didn't want to....and there is a very good reason why.

But two years down the line they might want to....and there is a very good reason why.

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

Grammer police, reported.

Sorry, couldn't resist it the way you'd phrased your question!

Just now, Stupooey said:

Sorry, couldn't resist it the way you'd phrased your question!

That's ok, I was joking.

23 hours ago, newatthis said:

Yes, I know the people you mean.

 

About 27% of the 18-24s did vote Leave. He would seem to fit the demographic (the tattoos give it away).

23 hours ago, AlexRich said:

 

When the dust settles on this fiasco the net result will be to usher in a Corbyn government, who will make East German communists look like Ayn Rand. You'll have Venezuela off the coast of Europe. 

You don't have to worry about Corbyn, he'd soon fall foul of Maastricht and have any excesses reined in by the EU. Oh, hang on, just a minute..........

Just now, Stupooey said:

About 27% of the 18-24s did vote Leave. He would seem to fit the demographic (the tattoos give it away).

I'm sure that we can both agree that a similar number of stupid people voted both leave and remain?

 

Unfortunately for the remain 'camp' - the referendum resulted in a leave result.

23 hours ago, evadgib said:

From Pat Condell re this march:

 

"Every time a country has tried to vote against the EU, the vote has been ignored or overturned". Untrue, but what do you expect from this sarcastic bigot? Example - the European Constitution was shelved in 2005 following negative votes in the French and Dutch referenda.

23 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

Oh God i just had a vision of them having sex,i need a bath ????

Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

You really mean a cold shower, don't you?

4 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

I'm sure that we can both agree that a similar number of stupid people voted both leave and remain?

 

Unfortunately for the remain 'camp' - the referendum resulted in a leave result.

No, we cannot agree. Watching the various vox pops that appeared on TV during and after the vote led me to conclude that a bunch of posh counts with an ulterior motive managed to persuade a bunch of daft counts to vote for something that was not in their interests. 

4 hours ago, Stupooey said:

You don't have to worry about Corbyn, he'd soon fall foul of Maastricht and have any excesses reined in by the EU. Oh, hang on, just a minute..........

A good point. The EU prevented extreme left or right policies being implemented ... and that’s why extreme lefties like Corbyn want to leave just as much as extreme righties like Rees Mogg.