lvr181 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 7 hours ago, andux said: Are you sure? Isn't your nice, democratic government brainwashing you, because there happens to be something in the Middle East, something known as black gold... Oh no it can't be it, it has to be that all people from the Middle East are murderers. Open your eyes sunshine! It's called religion vs religion. Perhaps Sunni vs Shia? Ring a bell? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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unblocktheplanet Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) The last dicks strong-armed YouTube into geolocational blocking. These boys don't seem to care much. If you'd like to listen, search Rap Against Dictorship <removed> The current figure is nearly 13.5 million listens. If the guys with stars & medals are watching, that's more than 20% of the entire Thai population, much bigger if you exclude kids under 10! Edited October 28, 2018 by unblocktheplanet Add info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossiebear Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 About time the truth was spoken, bravo to them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twig Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Percy P said: Young people are easley swayed. The military want democracy very much, but theirs a section of people against it. The military, which in its structure is always an absolute monarchy and from which monarchy itself arose, "want democracy very much"?! ???? A "democracy" is the rule of the mob, in which the majority coerces the minority to follow its rules. Even to say that any military wing of any government gang wants that "is not even wrong": it's insane. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Loong Tuu and his sweet old fashioned patriotic love songs album just needs a little rap rearranging and he'll win over the masses in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, cmsally said: Now over 13m views , that's around 100k views in only 10 minutes. It also popped into my Mrs viewing suggestions on YouTube this morning, and she's pushing 50! We watched of course, cool Video! Edited October 28, 2018 by Small Joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, twig said: The military, which in its structure is always an absolute monarchy and from which monarchy itself arose, "want democracy very much"?! ???? A "democracy" is the rule of the mob, in which the majority coerces the minority to follow its rules. Even to say that any military wing of any government gang wants that "is not even wrong": it's insane. ???? While I agree with your sentiments, you're not describing democracy anywhere. The Kavananuagh debacle showed how close the US "democracy" model is to the way things are done in LOS. Even the other half of the US Congress, never mind the masses, and most of the media, could not stop that elite stitch up. Edited October 28, 2018 by Small Joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 20 hours ago, Golden Triangle said: I doubt very much that this will get much airtime on Pattaya 103 FM, which is a shame really as they are such a progressive music station ???? I remember that when all the cool Thai stations (and at least one English language call sign) were shut down in CM in 2014, very few ever came back on air. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 2:27 PM, GaryAdriaenssens said: I wouldn't want to be in those rappers's shoes, sorry. Somehow they will pay some price for it sooner or later. Maybe say goodbye to their career... in Thailand that is. Or if people have REALLY had enough, just maybe they'll be Thai Lech Walesa's (remember Solidarnosc?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) The figures are quite astonishing. - 14m views. I think someone has a problem. Reality hits. Hopefully, the powers that be will withdraw from the confrontation. I have serious doubts that the army of young conscripts will continuue to obey orders if push comes to shove. Edited October 28, 2018 by nausea More info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 2:49 PM, connda said: .... Speaking of pipe-dreams, a 'smart' junta would legalize marijuana as a 'stoned' populace is an apathetic populace and as such they could hold on to power for the next 100 years. And on that agreeable point too, I beg to differ, the amount of uptake after legalising ANY drug actually falls! It's conservative paranoia, despite the fact that cigs and booze were marketed and sexed up relentlessly and DESPITE their hard and proven addiction potential, the world still does not turn in a state of inebriation, or a haze of tobacco smoke, funny that. Considering the fear mongering around all other drugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 2:54 PM, rtco said: It's actually quite a good rap tune. Mini guitar solo on the git decorated with the Thai flag was a nice touch too! Or should that be Tuu? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Now at about 14.6m views! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 41 minutes ago, nausea said: The figures are quite astonishing. - 14m views. I think someone has a problem. Reality hits. Hopefully, the powers that be will withdraw from the confrontation. I have serious doubts that the army of young conscripts will continuue to obey orders if push comes to shove. Turning 'hits' or 'likes' into real action in the streets is a big leap, though not impossible. When my b/f was still a conscript in 2012 or 2013, the soldiers were ordered to vote for Suthep & co. But the boys were mostly from Isaan and, surprisingly enough, they knew which side was up and voted for Yingluck ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 4:20 PM, klauskunkel said: I imagine Prayut is brainstorming with his girly band BNK48 how to answer that rap song: apparently they all found the answer between their molars... Anyway, looking forward to the coming musical battle: Sanitized Softy-Pop vs. Raw Power-Rap Yes and the girlies are not allowed to even gyrate in those innocent outfits, unless, you know, they're "asking for it" according to the PM. This whole thing is so enjoyable. I've never enjoyed a news story more since the lads were found in the cave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 8 hours ago, baboon said: It's a bloody Thai wife thing as well. Believe me...???? Like the man said "the people in power" ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddox41 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Wow been a farang and looking outside in interesting But these boys will pay brave to say the least I like how they said they will be found and there thinking be re adjusted Maybe they mean a knitting needle thru the frontal lobe area and a bib for later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Shivers down my spine while listening to it. Is powerful even just reading the subtitles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 hours ago, maddox41 said: Wow been a farang and looking outside in interesting But these boys will pay brave to say the least I like how they said they will be found and there thinking be re adjusted Maybe they mean a knitting needle thru the frontal lobe area and a bib for later They will not be touched. The junta will do nothing. And business will go on as usual with the junta in power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twig Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) On 10/28/2018 at 10:12 AM, Small Joke said: While I agree with your sentiments, you're not describing democracy anywhere. The Kavananuagh debacle showed how close the US "democracy" model is to the way things are done in LOS. Even the other half of the US Congress, never mind the masses, and most of the media, could not stop that elite stitch up. It's true: democracy doesn't exist anywhere currently. Most government gangs - including US and Land of Something - operate under some variety of fascism by its economic definition. The US and most other territories just continue with the dog-and-pony show to brainwash the herd that there is "representative democracy". :D Direct democracy hasn't existed at national scale since ancient Greece? ...and for good reasons: democracy would be worse than fascism, and no better than it was when it killed Socrates for speaking out. Seems that these young rappers instinctively understand all that better than most. Their only misunderstanding seems the most common one - that there can be a "good government" based on the coercion and robbery of a "democratic" armed gang. Edited October 30, 2018 by twig clarification 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andux Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 15 hours ago, twig said: It's true: democracy doesn't exist anywhere currently. Most government gangs - including US and Land of Something - operate under some variety of fascism by its economic definition. The US and most other territories just continue with the dog-and-pony show to brainwash the herd that there is "representative democracy". :D Direct democracy hasn't existed at national scale since ancient Greece? ...and for good reasons: democracy would be worse than fascism, and no better than it was when it killed Socrates for speaking out. Seems that these young rappers instinctively understand all that better than most. Their only misunderstanding seems the most common one - that there can be a "good government" based on the coercion and robbery of a "democratic" armed gang. Well you took the red pill. Most people will rather take the blue one and keep living in their little bubble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 23 hours ago, twig said: It's true: democracy doesn't exist anywhere currently. Most government gangs - including US and Land of Something - operate under some variety of fascism by its economic definition. The US and most other territories just continue with the dog-and-pony show to brainwash the herd that there is "representative democracy". :D Direct democracy hasn't existed at national scale since ancient Greece? ...and for good reasons: democracy would be worse than fascism, and no better than it was when it killed Socrates for speaking out. Seems that these young rappers instinctively understand all that better than most. Their only misunderstanding seems the most common one - that there can be a "good government" based on the coercion and robbery of a "democratic" armed gang. Democracy is not perfect. Democracy (warts and all) is still better than whatever alternative is running second. People vote, what the majority wants is what the country gets. Like it or not. Popularly stated as "of the people, by the people, for the people". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andux Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 hours ago, lvr181 said: Democracy is not perfect. Democracy (warts and all) is still better than whatever alternative is running second. People vote, what the majority wants is what the country gets. Like it or not. Popularly stated as "of the people, by the people, for the people". Do you really believe people have any power in "democratic" countries? People only vote on useless stuff, such as the clown to "represent" you or whether abortion or gay marriage should be legal. All useless in the grand scheme of things. The real power is still in the government's hands. If you don't have the power to tell them all to leave, you have no power at all. "Voting" just keeps people under the illusion they have power, so they are very unlikely to try to overthrow the dictatorship in place. Thailand will do the same thing: they will allow elections but they will keep the power. It's the smart thing to do. It's what every other dictatorship is doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 hours ago, andux said: Do you really believe people have any power in "democratic" countries? They do at the next election. And that IS better than a dictatorship! The PM laid down the expectation of Thai "elections" - it will be 'Thai style' democracy i.e. NOT western style democracy! Don't get confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 These guys are heroes to the Thai people, who have been without a voice for so long. Now they long for a way to tell these tiny heathen freaks who are desperately clinging to power, that they are not liked, not wanted, not needed, and must go. They represent only the elite, the powerful, the super wealthy, and those in power. Nobody else. Certainly not the common people. To them, the people are simply annoying plebs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: These guys are heroes to the Thai people, who have been without a voice for so long. Now they long for a way to tell these tiny heathen freaks who are desperately clinging to power, that they are not liked, not wanted, not needed, and must go. They represent only the elite, the powerful, the super wealthy, and those in power. Nobody else. Certainly not the common people. To them, the people are simply annoying plebs. In reality, they're probably considered heroes to just a fragment of the population. I would be hesitant to become to slobbery and reactive over this event - Trust me - it's a fade that will pass as will their 15 minutes of fame and chat that accompanies. Yet, real intelligent and lucid activists have been spinning their wheels in public forever and no one ever takes notice. Guarantee that very few TVF members [and others] know of these brave souls that aren't considered flash-in-the-pans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Brave young man but I bet he has many fans among the young conscript soldiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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