Immigrant O multiple entry-Married to a Thai

[Capealava]

A couple few years ago I obtain a immigrant O multiple entry based on Marriage from Los Angeles Thai Consulate. I only had to show marriage documents, and a copy of wifes ID and I lettter from her requesting the Visa. I did not have to have put any money in a Thai Bank or any Bank. I just paid the Visa and entry fees. Is it possible to find that same situation in consulate close to Thailand. I do not want a marriage extension, just the visa and multiple entry. I notice Penang asks for 200,00 to 400,000 in a specific bank to obtain this visa and Kuala Lumpar is very difficult. Indonesia consulate does not state the need for Money in the Bank, but one never knows once you get there. Just looking for some experinces with this closer to Thailand than returning to LA.

Edited October 28, 2018 by Capealava

[glegolo]

Savannaketh offers the same

 

glegolo

[elviajero]

44 minutes ago, Capealava said:

Is it possible to find that same situation in consulate close to Thailand.

The consulate in Savannakhet, Laos will issue a ME non 'O' without needing to provide any financial information. You will need the original/copy of your marriage certificate, and copies of your wife's ID and Tabian Baan (house registration book).

[Capealava]

Thank you much

 

[Danthai]

Elviajero, is the info about multi O for marriage from Savannakhet current? Do not have to return to home country? How does one convert from Retirement visa to extension based on marriage if dont have 400,000 in bank, but have military and SS retirement, but  cant use income affidavits anymore. Have been here 20 years, no home in US.

[elviajero]

27 minutes ago, Danthai said:

Elviajero, is the info about multi O for marriage from Savannakhet current? Do not have to return to home country? How does one convert from Retirement visa to extension based on marriage if dont have 400,000 in bank, but have military and SS retirement, but  cant use income affidavits anymore. Have been here 20 years, no home in US.

Yes, it’s current. You don’t need to go home.

 

We don’t know yet how immigration are going to handle the American embassy’s decision not to comply with Immigration’s new criteria. As it stands if you can’t get a letter confirming your income from your embassy you won’t becable to get an extension based on being retired or married.

 

Using a ME visa from Savannahket isn’t ideal, but it’s probably your only choice if you don’t have 400K in the bank.

[Danthai]

Thank you. Guess at 72 with Diabetes on insulin and mixed connective tissue disease, and no home the nail has just been put thru my heart and ended my life. At least here had good monthly income, excellent medical care coverage through Tricare, and a internal medicine specialist for last 15 years. I feel really bad for all the others in the same boat. Never experienced a visa run, just a failed marriage to first wife of 20 years. God bless everyone.

[elviajero]

19 minutes ago, Danthai said:

Thank you. Guess at 72 with Diabetes on insulin and mixed connective tissue disease, and no home the nail has just been put thru my heart and ended my life. At least here had good monthly income, excellent medical care coverage through Tricare, and a internal medicine specialist for last 15 years. I feel really bad for all the others in the same boat. Never experienced a visa run, just a failed marriage to first wife of 20 years. God bless everyone.

I sure the situation will get resolved. TIB are not trying to make it harder for expats, just tighten up on the fraudulent applicants. In the meantime where there's a will there's a way.

 

If you have to use a ME visa and do border runs, you can extend each 90 day entry by 60 days for 1,900 baht and delay the need for a border run.

[PoorSucker]

43 minutes ago, Danthai said:

Thank you. Guess at 72 with Diabetes on insulin and mixed connective tissue disease, and no home the nail has just been put thru my heart and ended my life. At least here had good monthly income, excellent medical care coverage through Tricare, and a internal medicine specialist for last 15 years. I feel really bad for all the others in the same boat. Never experienced a visa run, just a failed marriage to first wife of 20 years. God bless everyone.

I have a friend who is 80 (lived on samui 40 yrs).

Every three months he gets a medical extension,with a doctor letter confirming he's not fit to travel.

[ubonjoe]

8 hours ago, Danthai said:

Elviajero, is the info about multi O for marriage from Savannakhet current? Do not have to return to home country? How does one convert from Retirement visa to extension based on marriage if dont have 400,000 in bank, but have military and SS retirement, but  cant use income affidavits anymore. Have been here 20 years, no home in US.

Everything is up in the air at this time. You can still get a income affidavit from the embassy until the end of December. At this time it appears immigration will accept one up to 6 months from the date you do the affidavit. If your extension is due to prior to the mid June or so you should not have a problem doing your application for the extension. I advise though that you be prepared to show back up proof for the income affidavit when you apply.

At the this time it is matter of waiting to see what immigration does. It is possible they will start accepting proof of your income going into a Thai bank proven by a statement or bank book.

[MARK74]

It would depend on where you live in Thailand.

From BKK to HCMC, Vietnam

7am Air Asia from DMK to HCMC. Take taxi to from the airport (use Vinasun or Mai Linh) to the consulate and put the application in.

Pick up passport next day in the afternoon from the consulate and fly back Air Asia to DMK around 9pm.

A hand written letter from wife requesting the visa is required otherwise it's the same as Savanakhet.

There are recent reports from thai visa members confirming the rules are unchanged there.

 

 

[Thian]

OP i had the same issue you had, i also had to show the funds when i applied...I didn't have to show the letter from my wife though...only her passport and marriage certificate.

 

They use different requirements in each country it seems..

[Danthai]

Thank you everyone for your kind responses. I was one of the lucky ones and renewed in September for an Oct 23, 2019 extension. Having said that I am petrified because of my MCTD and diabetics insulin daily requirements. When the last 20 years of your life has been in Chiangmai it is life threatening to just pack a suitcase and leave. Marriage of two years not registered yet because I had planned to use pension benefits. I also gave a son who is just finishing last term in HS this term. He lives with his mother.

 

Anyway, my problems, I'm sure, are not unlike many others here. Thank you everyone. How do you send a private message to one of the posters on Thaivisa? 

[phitsanulokjohn]

8 hours ago, Danthai said:

Thank you. Guess at 72 with Diabetes on insulin and mixed connective tissue disease, and no home the nail has just been put thru my heart and ended my life. At least here had good monthly income, excellent medical care coverage through Tricare, and a internal medicine specialist for last 15 years. I feel really bad for all the others in the same boat. Never experienced a visa run, just a failed marriage to first wife of 20 years. God bless everyone.

I feel extremely sorry for you Dan,but as you rightly state,there are many like you in the same boat.I totally understand the Thai immigration trying their utmost to weed out the undesirables/overstayers/working without permit etc,but I don't understand them not accepting proof via a bank book of regular funds being deposited from abroad by the US government.It appears you have been let down by the actions of your own embassy.

Dan keep your chin up mate,I'm sure common sense will prevail, I'm also pretty sure the Thai government does not wish to lose potentially millions of baht being put into their economy by foreign residents for something that is plainly the policy of the embassy and not the fault of the applicant.

I really hope the situation resolves itself,but in the meantime I wish you all the very best.

 

[Danthai]

Has anyone extended a marriage visa by having, for example 200,000 in bank and deposits of 40,000 per month during year. Can the deposits be used each month or part of deposits.

Sincere Thanks. 

P.s. Have never had to do visa runs, have always been legal 20 years on marriage and/or under yearly contract with University. Now given medical, visa runs are very difficult for me. Over time could reach 400000 in bank. In 1998 only needed 200000 for three months. 

 

[Aquaman2016]

You cannot do a marriage extension by the combination method.


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[Thaidream]

6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Everything is up in the air at this time. You can still get a income affidavit from the embassy until the end of December. At this time it appears immigration will accept one up to 6 months from the date you do the affidavit. If your extension is due to prior to the mid June or so you should not have a problem doing your application for the extension. I advise though that you be prepared to show back up proof for the income affidavit when you apply.

At the this time it is matter of waiting to see what immigration does. It is possible they will start accepting proof of your income going into a Thai bank proven by a statement or bank book.

Don't forget- you can go in for your extension early up to 45 days in most locations- in others 30 days. The Embassy letter is valid for 6 months from the date signed by the Embassy to the application date so that gives people some added time. I always have gone in and done my extensions 45 days early  with letters as old as 5 months and never a problem. 

[Danthai]

So going from a retirement visa to marriage visa need 400000 in bank two months before Retirement visa expires. Can change visa without leaving country?

Thank you Friends

[skatewash]

5 hours ago, Danthai said:

How do you send a private message to one of the posters on Thaivisa? 

 

Cursor over the name of the member you wish to contact.  A pop-up window will appear with details about that member.  One of the options on that window will be Message.  Click that option.

[Phuket Man]

17 minutes ago, Danthai said:

So going from a retirement visa to marriage visa need 400000 in bank two months before Retirement visa expires. Can change visa without leaving country?

Thank you Friends

You would not be going from any Visa to another Visa.

You would be changing the reason for the extension from Retirement to Marriage to a Thai lady.

400,000 Baht in the bank for a period of 2 months before application plus a few other things.

 

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, Danthai said:

Has anyone extended a marriage visa by having, for example 200,000 in bank and deposits of 40,000 per month during year. Can the deposits be used each month or part of deposits.

Sincere Thanks. 

P.s. Have never had to do visa runs, have always been legal 20 years on marriage and/or under yearly contract with University. Now given medical, visa runs are very difficult for me. Over time could reach 400000 in bank. In 1998 only needed 200000 for three months. 

 

A combination of income and money in the bank is not allowed for extension based upon marriage.

If you have a income of 40k baht per month that is enough to apply for the extension without any money in the bank.

[ubonjoe]

41 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

Don't forget- you can go in for your extension early up to 45 days in most locations- in others 30 days.

I probably should of written when you apply for the extension. I had the 30 or 45 days in my mind when I wrote it.

[Danthai]

Ubonjoe, how do you show that if no affidavits accepted. What is procedure to qualify for that. I transfer more over each month, but muse for expenses, and son's education.

 

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, Danthai said:

Ubonjoe, how do you show that if no affidavits accepted. What is procedure to qualify for that. I transfer more over each month, but muse for expenses, and son's education.

If immigration was to start allowing bank books or statements to prove at least 40k baht coming into the country every month is how you could do it. You could start using the money on the day it was transferred to your account.

No need for money to be kept in the bank that way.

[Sheryl]

14 hours ago, Danthai said:

Thank you. Guess at 72 with Diabetes on insulin and mixed connective tissue disease, and no home the nail has just been put thru my heart and ended my life. At least here had good monthly income, excellent medical care coverage through Tricare, and a internal medicine specialist for last 15 years. I feel really bad for all the others in the same boat. Never experienced a visa run, just a failed marriage to first wife of 20 years. God bless everyone.

If that "good income" is 65k/month or more you should not have a problem.

 

If it is less, you will need some money in the bank as well so that it totals 800K. For example if your income is 50K a month, 50 * 12 = 600,000, you need in addition 200,000 in the bank.  While that may be a problem to come up with it will likely be less of a problem than meeting the costs you would incur moving back to the USA.

 

 

[Ebumbu]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

If immigration was to start allowing bank books or statements to prove at least 40k baht coming into the country every month is how you could do it. You could start using the money on the day it was transferred to your account.

No need for money to be kept in the bank that way.

 

I use income method, but I don't receive a fixed deposit amount each month. Sometimes it is more, sometimes it is less (or zero). The yearly average is well over the minimum 65k baht per month. If considered per year, I'm fine. 

 

I'm worried about: my fluctuating income. Is it foolish to think immigrations will look at the yearly average (more than 800k) and accept that? Or, will they be literal about "per month"? This is the issue that's plaguing me. ????

This also applies to "combined" method. If I have half in the bank and my yearly deposits average out to more than the requirements, will that be accepted? Is "per month" non negotiable? 

 

Edited October 29, 2018 by Ebumbu
Clarity.

[Russell17au]

2 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

 

I'd like your opinion about extending visa based on retirement, unless this is completely unknown. I use income method. I don't receive a regular deposit each month. Sometimes it is more, sometimes it is less (or zero). The yearly average is well over the minimum 65k baht per month.

 

I'm worried about: my fluctuating income. Is it foolish to think immigrations will look at the yearly average (80k+) and accept that? Or, will they be literal about "per month"? This is the issue that's plaguing me. ????

 

You take your yearly income and divide it by 12 to give you your average monthly income. With the Australian pension we are paid every 4 weeks so we get 13 payments per year so we multiply by 13 and divide by 12 and that is the monthly income used.

[elviajero]

5 hours ago, Danthai said:

Has anyone extended a marriage visa by having, for example 200,000 in bank and deposits of 40,000 per month during year. Can the deposits be used each month or part of deposits.

Sincere Thanks. 

P.s. Have never had to do visa runs, have always been legal 20 years on marriage and/or under yearly contract with University. Now given medical, visa runs are very difficult for me. Over time could reach 400000 in bank. In 1998 only needed 200000 for three months. 

 

No cannot combine income and cash in the bank for an extension of stay based on being married. That option is only available if applying based on retirement.

[Furryman]

On 10/28/2018 at 4:39 PM, elviajero said:

The consulate in Savannakhet, Laos will issue a ME non 'O' without needing to provide any financial information. You will need the original/copy of your marriage certificate, and copies of your wife's ID and Tabian Baan (house registration book).

This visa gives how many entries? If it is 3 entries and 180 days validity, it's not too bad if you are not too far from the border.

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, Furryman said:

This visa gives how many entries? If it is 3 entries and 180 days validity, it's not too bad if you are not too far from the border.

A multiple entry non-o visa allows unlimited 90 day entries for one year from the date of issue.