CCTV shows the harrowing moment King Power helicopter fell from sky

[snoop1130]

CCTV shows the harrowing moment King Power helicopter fell from sky

 

 

CCTV footage shows the moment the helicopter belonging to King Power CEO and Leicester City chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha spirals out of control moments after take off.

 

The helicopter can be seen crashing to ground outside the King Power Stadium in Leicester on Saturday evening.

 

 

On Monday, it was confirmed that Mr Srivaddhanaprabha had been killed along with four other passengers, who were named as Kaveporn Punpare, Nursara Suknamai, pilot Eric Swaffer and co-pilot Izabela Lechowicz.

 

Air accident experts in the UK are investigating what caused the crash and have begun analysing the flight recorder after it was retrieved from the wreckage.

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-10-30

[observer90210]

At least out there in the UK it won't get "case closed" as a suicide.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2018 by observer90210

[NCC1701A]

always a horrible quality cellphone video of a flatscreen playing the actual video.

Edited October 30, 2018 by NCC1701A

[shaurene]

 

15 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

always a horrible quality cellphone video of a flatscreen playing the actual video.

I thought you always read it correctly. It was CCTV camera not a cell phone, The quality was farely good considering the time of night and the distance. 

[NCC1701A]

1 hour ago, shaurene said:

I thought you always read it correctly. It was CCTV camera not a cell phone, The quality was farely good considering the time of night and the distance. 

you are looking at a recording made with a cellphone of a flat screen monitor playing the CCTV video. It is not the the actual CCTV. 

[Ossy]

Unlikely to be pilot error, unless Mr Viscai was having a go at piloting. For the machine to go so seriously out of control points towards mechanical failure and this can only point towards maintenance shortcomings, since machines only fail if parts have become worn or loose. These awful incidents don't just happen by bad luck and I'll lay odds on there being someone or some support facility having a major problem with their conscience, right now.

[anon2736434]

From what little can be seen in the video looks like a tail rotor failure. Not enough altitude to auto rotate in. Very sad. Helicopters are inherently unstable machines. Even with best of maintenance they fail quite often.

[sqwakvfr]

Notagain, I think you are right.  The helicopter was climbing from inside the stadium.   Almost no forward airspeed and low altitude.  Difficult to excute an automation.  RIP

[stanleycoin]

1 hour ago, Ossy said:

Unlikely to be pilot error, unless Mr Viscai was having a go at piloting. For the machine to go so seriously out of control points towards mechanical failure and this can only point towards maintenance shortcomings, since machines only fail if parts have become worn or loose. These awful incidents don't just happen by bad luck and I'll lay odds on there being someone or some support facility having a major problem with their conscience, right now.

Maybe stick to things you understand and leave the rest to the experts. 

Edited October 31, 2018 by metisdead
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[727Sky]

25 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Notagain, I think you are right.  The helicopter was climbing from inside the stadium.   Almost no forward airspeed and low altitude.  Difficult to excute an automation.  RIP

Yep it is called the dead man zone for a reason (no altitude or no speed).. So either an engine failure or tailrotor failure by the way the aircraft was spinning.. Bad situation without much chance of survival.

[ronaldo0]

14 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

always a horrible quality cellphone video of a flatscreen playing the actual video.

This was filmed on cctv outside the stadium and then shot on a mobile . There is a mobile film one of the staff took from inside the stadium filming it taking off and crashing .In todays sun uk paper online.

[NCC1701A]

15 minutes ago, ronaldo0 said:

This was filmed on cctv outside the stadium and then shot on a mobile . There is a mobile film one of the staff took from inside the stadium filming it taking off and crashing .In todays sun uk paper online.

yes that is what I said.

[Fex Bluse]

15 hours ago, observer90210 said:

At least out there in the UK it won't get "case closed" as a suicide.

And, at least we value life, even of foreigners, unlike the Thais/Asians who never seem to have time to mourn and give kind words when westerners fall victim to mortality 

[rkidlad]

That's pretty harrowing to watch. If they'd simply crashed and died on impact, that would be bad enough. The fact the helicopter burst into flames seems to make it so much worse. 

[PMZ]

Here is additional footage which might show more detail as to what went wrong.

https://youtu.be/1QKhqF61AuA

 

[habanero]

16 minutes ago, PMZ said:

Here is additional footage which might show more detail as to what went wrong.

https://youtu.be/1QKhqF61AuA

 

Having flown thousands of hours on helicopters. From what I just saw. The pilot definitely lost tail rotor authority. Given the altitude and attitude of the aircraft. Autorotation was pretty much not available. Does not look to be pilot error but mechanical error. Of course the investigation will tell. Just my observation from the video.

Edited October 31, 2018 by habanero

[anon2736434]

http://helihub.com/2017/06/10/10-jun-17-vh-one-bell-206b-avalon-australia/

Like me to find some more safety records on ausjet ??? There are more,

[Media1]

30 minutes ago, habanero said:

Having flown thousands of hours on helicopters. From what I just saw. The pilot definitely lost tail rotor authority. Given the altitude and attitude of the aircraft. Autorotation was pretty much not available. Does not look to be pilot error but mechanical error. Of course the investigation will tell. Just my observation from the video.

Agreed just flew off

[anon2736434]

9 minutes ago, Notagain said:

http://helihub.com/2017/06/10/10-jun-17-vh-one-bell-206b-avalon-australia/

Well does ausjet have thai mechanics too, cmon smart guy explain this incident.

[Ossy]

5 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

Maybe stick to things you understand

But I do, that's just why I made the post. Mull over the first 20yrs of my resume and still tell me you disagree with my original 'mechanical failure' post, especially the 'worn or loose' quote that had you reaching for the loud (bold & underline) pedals.

• ·         1962-65, BEng (Hons), Leeds

• ·         1965-68, Lecturer, Mech Eng, Harris Col, Preston, UK

• ·         1968-72, Dept Head, as above

• ·         1972-76, Prodn Mgr, CPV Sealants Ltd, Accrington, UK

• ·         1976-78, Prodn Mgr, Precision Engineers, Blackburn, UK

• ·         1978-84, Prodn Director, as above

Try cutting others a bit of slack, until or unless you can dismiss their posts as invalid.

[HAKAPALITA]

5 minutes ago, Ossy said:

But I do, that's just why I made the post. Mull over the first 20yrs of my resume and still tell me you disagree with my original 'mechanical failure' post, especially the 'worn or loose' quote that had you reaching for the loud (bold & underline) pedals.

• ·         1962-65, BEng (Hons), Leeds

   

• ·         1965-68, Lecturer, Mech Eng, Harris Col, Preston, UK

   

• ·         1968-72, Dept Head, as above

   

• ·         1972-76, Prodn Mgr, CPV Sealants Ltd, Accrington, UK

   

• ·         1976-78, Prodn Mgr, Precision Engineers, Blackburn, UK

   

• ·         1978-84, Prodn Director, as above

 

Try cutting others a bit of slack, until or unless you can dismiss their posts as invalid.

You know a bit about the E Banking Crash too back in August, we are honoured by your vast knowledge

[anon2736434]

3 minutes ago, Ossy said:

Try cutting others a bit of slack, until or unless you can dismiss their posts as invalid.

I dont see anything to do with aviation (sealants ? cmon whats that got to do with a helicopter accident) in your long list of credentials, especially helicopter/aviation design-assembly or maintenance. Your claim is invalid because no one knows the actually cause of the crash and wont until the uk aviation EXPERTS examine everything and make their finding public.

[Ossy]

3 minutes ago, Notagain said:

I dont see anything to do with aviation (sealants ? cmon whats that got to do with a helicopter accident) in your long list of credentials, especially helicopter/aviation design-assembly or maintenance. Your claim is invalid because no one knows the actually cause of the crash and wont until the uk aviation EXPERTS examine everything and make their finding public.

Sealants only got my attention for 4 out of the 20yrs detailed; the other 16 in the very thick of machine reliability and failure risk. Looks like you, too, have selective vision and totally missed my point that waiting for the flight recorder and any other investigations would be good at this stage.

[anon2736434]

6 hours ago, Ossy said:

this can only point towards maintenance shortcomings, since machines only fail if parts have become worn or loose

Your words not mine. 

[Small Joke]

4 hours ago, Media1 said:

Poor maintenance Thai style. My mate owns Ausjet and and houses numerous aircraft. Never had a issue. You can't trust amatures. And l would not fly with a Thai owned aircraft. Terrible for the guests on board. My mate jumped off a 39 floor building A day ago. l not crying for this Thai

The aircraft was flown and maintained in the UK. 

Two western crew also died, and may even yet be shown to be culpable for the tragedy.  

Not that either of these facts need be pointed out to anyone with an attention span longer than a goldfish. 

What has your mates sad fate (assuming that's even true) got to do with this anyway, or do you think that excuses you bagging the Thais for no valid reason? 

[R123]

Do we know why the helicopter was allowed to land and leave in just a dangerous place?

Will such landings at the likes of sports grounds be banned now?

Or does no one care?

Edited October 31, 2018 by R123

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, R123 said:

Do we know why the helicopter was allowed to land and leave in just a dangerous place?

Will such landings at the likes of sports grounds be banned now?

Or does no one care?

Why is taking off from an empty stadium dangerous? 

 

No one was hurt on the ground? 

 

Or perhaps if helicopters are that dangerous they should not be allowed over populated areas. 

 

Only allowing them at airports defeats the object. 

 

If the FAA’s strict safety regulations can be met I’m not sure what more you would expect. 

[anon2736434]

1 minute ago, R123 said:

Do we know why the helicopter was allowed to land and leave in just a dangerous place?

Helicopters land routinely in much more dangerous/smaller places than that, That area wasn't dangerous at all and had nothing to do with the crash. A platform in bad weather in the north sea oil fields would be considered dangerous. Those guys got balls.

[stanleycoin]

1 hour ago, Ossy said:

But I do, that's just why I made the post. Mull over the first 20yrs of my resume and still tell me you disagree with my original 'mechanical failure' post, especially the 'worn or loose' quote that had you reaching for the loud (bold & underline) pedals.

• ·         1962-65, BEng (Hons), Leeds

   

• ·         1965-68, Lecturer, Mech Eng, Harris Col, Preston, UK

   

• ·         1968-72, Dept Head, as above

   

• ·         1972-76, Prodn Mgr, CPV Sealants Ltd, Accrington, UK

   

• ·         1976-78, Prodn Mgr, Precision Engineers, Blackburn, UK

   

• ·         1978-84, Prodn Director, as above

 

Try cutting others a bit of slack, until or unless you can dismiss their posts as invalid.

All of that and you still made the statement below.

Fantastic. 

Good day.

 

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 since machines only fail if parts have become worn or loose. 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2018 by stanleycoin

[metisdead]

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