Is Jus Soli Possible In Thailand

[Sing_Sling]

Looking for alternatives to the wangly corridors of bureacracy . . .

My parents were transferred to our Embassy in Bangkok in the 60's, shortly therefater I was born . . . on Thai soil. Does this entitle me to any claim on Thai citizenship - which would be useful? (Of course if dual citizenship is not accepted then this is a no-brainer)

[Maestro]

Does this entitle me to any claim on Thai citizenship - which would be useful?

No. No jus soli in Thailand.

Thailand’s Nationality Act is here. An English translation is here.

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Maestro

[Sing_Sling]

Thank you, maestro. (Now that sounds odd)

Geez, not even being born here gives me an advantage . . . here go the work permit applications then . . . sigh.

[samran]

regardless of the fact of if it exists or not, that you are a child of diplomats (with the immunities to local laws that go along with it) mean that you are ineligble.

[Sing_Sling]

regardless of the fact of if it exists or not, that you are a child of diplomats (with the immunities to local laws that go along with it) mean that you are ineligble.

Incorrect, samran. I have a few friends in the same boat who were born in the US and have the right to US citizenship, one of which has taken up the opportunity.

There are two different laws at play here. (Not that I really want Thai citizenship for anything else but an easy way to circumvent the work permit fiasco)

[Maestro]

Incorrect, samran.

Incorrect, Sing_Sling.

You asked about Thai citizenship. The answers you got, i.e. that it was not possible in the case you described, were in reference to your question, i.e. in reference to Thai citizenship. Now you come and say these answers are incorrect because friends of yours born in the US have the right to US citizenship.

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Maestro

[samran]

regardless of the fact of if it exists or not, that you are a child of diplomats (with the immunities to local laws that go along with it) mean that you are ineligble.

Incorrect, samran. I have a few friends in the same boat who were born in the US and have the right to US citizenship, one of which has taken up the opportunity.

There are two different laws at play here. (Not that I really want Thai citizenship for anything else but an easy way to circumvent the work permit fiasco)

You didn't ask about the US, you asked about Thailand. As far as I know, the US is unique in this day and age that it is one of the only western countries which grants citizenship to all born on its soil, regardless of the residency status of the parents. It is unique, as it is stipulated in the constiution rather than simply through legistlation. Other countries used to have similar laws, but the UK scrapped this concept in 1981 and Australia on 20/07/86. To get citizenship of those countries (via birth on native soil) one of your parents has to have permanent residency (ILR in the UK) or be a national of that country.

As it stands for Thailand,

Section 8. of the Thai Nationality Act (version 3)

A person born within the Thai Kingdom of alien parents does not acquire Thai nationality, if at the time of his birth, his father or mother was:

(1) Head of a diplomatic mission or a member thereof;

(2) Head of a consular mission or a member thereof;

(3) An officer or expert of an international organisation;

(4) Member of a family, either as a relative under patronage or servant, who came from abroad to reside with the person in (1), (2) or (3).

This was last ammended back in 1992. But, I'd assume that this clause would have always been part of versions one or two, so, you may want to go back and check them if you want to be sure (hey, I mean what do I know?)

The other thing I'd do is check out what your Thai birth certificate says. I'm assuming you have one and on the front it should state if you are "Thai", or as it is these days "Not eligible for Thai nationality".

[Sing_Sling]

Mea culpa, samran - excuse me, I thought you had taken the generic opinion, not Thai specific. My question was about Thailand, you are absolutely right.

Thank you for setting me straight.

Maestro, I stand corrected, I misinterpreted the answer.

I shall now go and get some serious self-flagellation therapy.

Edited February 18, 2007 by Sing_Sling

[Maestro]

I shall now go and get some serious self-flagellation therapy.

No need. Just drink a cup of Chinese tea to Samran’s health on this New Year’s day.

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Maestro

[samran]

I shall now go and get some serious self-flagellation therapy.

No need. Just drink a cup of Chinese tea to Samran’s health on this New Year’s day.

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Maestro

two cups, and then we'll call it evens....

[Maestro]

As for me, this is the tea I am drinking at the moment:

And tonight we are off to our favourite Chinese restaurant.

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Maestro

[g00dgirl]

List of countries applying Jus Soli

Argentina

Barbados

Brazil

Canada

Colombia

Jamaica

Mexico

Pakistan

Peru

Romania

United States

Uruguay

[Maestro]

g00dgirl, just to satisfy my curiosity would you be so kind as to tell me what possessed you to come to this topic over one year after the last post and give some off-topic information. Neither the OP nor anybody else in this thread asked what countries in the world use jus soli.

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Maestro

[g00dgirl]

g00dgirl, just to satisfy my curiosity would you be so kind as to tell me what possessed you to come to this topic over one year after the last post and give some off-topic information. Neither the OP nor anybody else in this thread asked what countries in the world use jus soli.

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Maestro

Excuse me? Please explain how my post if off topic. The OP wanted to know if Thailand applies Jus soli. My post answers this with a current list of countries that do, which is also very useful for anyone who is interested in this subject and who might do a search on the forum to get more details about it in the future.

A search is also how I found this post, old or not, why is that relevant when contributing useful information to the general public?

[Maestro]

Thank you very kindly for your explanation. My curiosity is now satisfied.

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Maestro