Agreement with CERN a boon to Thai education

[Scottjouro]

9 hours ago, quandow said:

Snarky response. Also incorrect, there are PLANS to build a nuclear facility, but none running at this present time. Are you actually DT trolling TV?

Oh you speak so definitively....is this not a nuclear facility in Thailand ?...are you trolling ?...quick pack your bags the sky is falling the Thai have a nuclear facility...????????

 

The first Thai Research Reactor, TRR-1 went critical on 27 October 1962 at the maximum power of 1 MW. It was located at Office of Atoms for Peace (OAP) in Bangkok. Since then, TRR-1 was continuously operated and eventually shut down in 1975. Plate type, high-enriched uranium (HEU) and U3O8A1 cladding were used as the reactor fuel. Light water was used as moderator and coolant as well. In 1975, because of the problem from fuel supplier and also to supporting the Treaty of Non Proliferation of Nuclear Weapon or NPT, TRR-1 was shut down for modification.

 

The reactor core and control system were disassembled and replaced by TRIGA Mark III. A new core was a hexagonal core shape designed by General Atomics (GA). Afterwards, TRR-1 was officially renamed to the Thai Research Reactor-1/Modification 1 (TRR-1/M1). TRR-1/M1 is a multipurpose swimming pool type reactor with nominal power of 2 MW. The TRR-1/M1 uses uranium enriched at 20% in U-235 (LEU) and ZrH alloy as fuel. Light water is also used as coolant and moderator.

 

At present, the reactor is operating with core No.14. The reactor has been serving for various kinds of utilization namely, radioisotope production, neutron activation analysis, beam experiments and reactor physics experiments. 

Edited November 27, 2018 by Scottjouro

[Scottjouro]

1 hour ago, ballpoint said:

Maybe you should do some research of your own before jumping in.  The Thailand Institute of Nuclear Technology has been running a research reactor in Bangkok since 1962, and another (the Onghharak Nuclear Research Centre) is currently under construction in Nakhon Nayok.  For many years the TINT one was the only one in this part of the world, with much of the medical and oil field radiation monitoring equipment in the region sent there for their mandatory periodical calibrations.  The UN trust it.  The IAEA trust it.  The people operating the equipment calibrated there (including myself back in the day) trust it, but a bunch of Thai bashers on an internet forum know better.

Is it great when some all knowing farang starts gobbing off about things they dont know about gets caught out and makes a fool of themselves

[Scottjouro]

10 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Probably some think of a nuclear facility only on the lines of producing electric power for the grid.

No the all knowing farang stated "nuclear facility"

The thai reasearch reactor is no different from a power generation reactor in all respects except scale only producing only 2MW,

 

while power generation reactors are typically 900MW and up 

[overherebc]

28 minutes ago, Scottjouro said:

No the all knowing farang stated "nuclear facility"

The thai reasearch reactor is no different from a power generation reactor in all respects except scale only producing only 2MW,

 

while power generation reactors are typically 900MW and up 

Does it produce electricity for use on the grid?

[MaksimMislavsky]

On ‎11‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 4:24 AM, mok199 said:

Lost me at ''Particle Physics''..

[lamyai3]

On 11/26/2018 at 5:10 AM, webfact said:

Thailand having never been a leader in scientific research but more often an envious observer of other countries making breakthroughs. 

Itcha Hick-Bawsan mak mak.

[Srikcir]

20 hours ago, overherebc said:

Does it produce electricity for use on the grid?

No.

According to Thailand's Power Development Plan 2015-2036, a nuclear power plant generating 1,000MW for use on the grid is planned for 2035 and expanded to 2,000MW in 2026 (Appendix 5 Projection of Generating Capacity by power plant types). https://www.egat.co.th/en/images/about-egat/PDP2015_Eng.pdf

[melvinmelvin]

24 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

No.

According to Thailand's Power Development Plan 2015-2036, a nuclear power plant generating 1,000MW for use on the grid is planned for 2035 and expanded to 2,000MW in 2026 (Appendix 5 Projection of Generating Capacity by power plant types). https://www.egat.co.th/en/images/about-egat/PDP2015_Eng.pdf

if not connected to the grid,

what kind of load, or how is the 2 MW used?

 

[overherebc]

25 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

if not connected to the grid,

what kind of load, or how is the 2 MW used?

 

One of the reasons I asked if it produced electricity as the statement 2MW gives that impression.

It's basically a small reactor that sits in what can be described as a swimming pool.

I suppose at full power it could produce enough energy to produce heat to that extent.

It doesn't have ducting to heat exchangers to produce steam at high pressure to to turn a turbine etc.

It is used for research and production of isotopes, eg Iridium 192, used in industry for gamma radiography in steel fabrication and for medical use.

Edit.

The isotopes are supplied in these containers, see att and used to 'x-ray' welds to show defects and problems in the welds.

Edited November 28, 2018 by overherebc

[Scottjouro]

21 hours ago, overherebc said:

Does it produce electricity for use on the grid?

Read post #31 and at a 2MW output what do you think Einstein ?

 

Fact is the posters little rantette related to Thais having nuclear and made a statement that Thailand had no nuclear facilites...fact is they do and have done so since 1962...thus invalidating the whole premise of his little rant 

[Srikcir]

18 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

if not connected to the grid,

what kind of load, or how is the 2 MW used?

 

What I read:

Operational power: 1,200MW (2MW is max. capacity rating @ 100% operation)

Load is used to generate energy for irradiation services, isotope production, products and Patients, ^99mTC Products and research.  https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/SupplementaryMaterials/TECDOC_1713_CD/template-cd/datasets/presentations/22_Thailand_Chueinta.pdf

 

[overherebc]

3 minutes ago, Scottjouro said:

Read post #31 and at a 2MW output what do you think Einstein ?

 

Fact is the posters little rantette related to Thais having nuclear and made a statement that Thailand had no nuclear facilites...fact is they do and have done so since 1962...thus invalidating the whole premise of his little rant 

Read my previous post.

I dealt with the OAEP as was called for many years when involved in industrial radiography in Thailand.

I asked the question as a way of clearing up the idea that Thailand has a nuclear power station producing 2MW of electricity.

[Srikcir]

20 minutes ago, overherebc said:

It's basically a small reactor that sits in what can be described as a swimming pool.

[melvinmelvin]

58 minutes ago, overherebc said:

One of the reasons I asked if it produced electricity as the statement 2MW gives that impression.

It's basically a small reactor that sits in what can be described as a swimming pool.

I suppose at full power it could produce enough energy to produce heat to that extent.

It doesn't have ducting to heat exchangers to produce steam at high pressure to to turn a turbine etc.

It is used for research and production of isotopes, eg Iridium 192, used in industry for gamma radiography in steel fabrication and for medical use.

Edit.

The isotopes are supplied in these containers, see att and used to 'x-ray' welds to show defects and problems in the welds.

 

so heating/boiling water in a pool, why not

 

ages ago I visited some nuclear power stations in the UK, Dungeness,

when for  some reason the station was disconnected from the grid

they still needed load

they had some gigantic water pumps that were lifting water from one reservoir

to a higher reservoir, the water was just cascading back down (can't remember #meters)

 

not very innovative or interesting, but worked fine

 

[overherebc]

47 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

so heating/boiling water in a pool, why not

 

ages ago I visited some nuclear power stations in the UK, Dungeness,

when for  some reason the station was disconnected from the grid

they still needed load

they had some gigantic water pumps that were lifting water from one reservoir

to a higher reservoir, the water was just cascading back down (can't remember #meters)

 

not very innovative or interesting, but worked fine

 

Cooling the water.

Righthand side of the diagram see cooling water from the condenser. Most likely what you saw being cooled.

Edited November 28, 2018 by overherebc

[melvinmelvin]

20 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Cooling the water.

Righthand side of the diagram see cooling water from the condenser. Most likely what you saw being cooled.

not really,

what I saw was quite simply outside open air large basins, one low and one high

huge pumps - water just cascading back, like a waterfall

heavy load for immediate application in case a fault in the high voltage grid

should cause a sudden cutoff of the power station

 

 

 

[tifino]

The Big Bang Theory is very popular on Thai TV

 

 

pity later on all be reported okay, when the Neutron Monitor on Doi Inthanon doesn't detect anything relevant

 

"it's safe to go home, nothing to see here"

[overherebc]

56 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

not really,

what I saw was quite simply outside open air large basins, one low and one high

huge pumps - water just cascading back, like a waterfall

heavy load for immediate application in case a fault in the high voltage grid

should cause a sudden cutoff of the power station

 

 

 

Dungeness uses/used a system of sea water in/out for cooling.

Possibly part of the filter system to get rid of the various types of sea life that get sucked into the system or waterfall cooling for ensuring the returned water is not too hot.

[DrTuner]

4 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

so heating/boiling water in a pool, why not

I bet ya anything they'll be converting it into a giant pot of kuaytieuwrua to sell at talad.