rooster59 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Norwegian left "speechless" after Chiang Mai immigration sing Happy Birthday, present cake to retiree Image: Sanook Sanook said that a Norwegian who arrived at Chiang Mai immigration to renew his retirement visa was left speechless after staff sang Happy Birthday and presented a cake with candles. "Mr John", aged 64, didn't know what to say - Sanook just suggested that he was overcome with joy and happiness at the consideration shown by the wonderful officials. He had arrived with his Thai wife. Deputy at Region 4 immigration Pol Col Phallop Suriyakun said it was all part of Lt-Gen Surachate "Big Joke" Hakparn's policy to impress visitors to immigration. He said that immigration knows your birthday and if it falls on the day of a visa extension you can expect an announcement over the loudspeaker. The ladies will do the rest with singing happy birthday and a cake. Apparently it wasn't Mr John's actual birthday - but it was near enough. Sanook called it a "new dimension" in service from the immigration department. Thaivisa notes that it came at the end of a week when immigration has faced a fair degree of criticism for taking a new tack on the financial rules associated with retirement extensions. Also, posters on Thaivisa have been critical of Chiang Mai immigration in the past though since Big Joke's high profile appointment last year many have reported an improvement there. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-02-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I am beginning to think that all of immigration are as mad as a box of frogs. Nice enough gesture, but really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 But was his extension granted????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, BestB said: But was his extension granted????????????? It's the gesture that counts , not the extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I must say that all those female immigration officers look rather 'vicious' ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Pilotman said: I am beginning to think that all of immigration are as mad as a box of frogs. Nice enough gesture, but really? What we see as "irrational behaviour" here is sometimes driven by the relationship between a subordinate and their boss. This relationship is opaque and has very considerable vertical distance in Thailand. That is to say the boss can drastically affect the subordinate's lives either positively or negatively. It is something along the lines of a medieval lord and his serfs. This birthday cake stunt may well have had nothing to do with "Mr John", the Norwegian, and everything to do with trying to project an image to their overlords in Bangkok that Chiang Mai Immigration was no longer hostile to its foreign users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, BestB said: But was his extension granted????????????? Once he'd paid 10,000 Baht for the cake, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 i don't think there is much doubt now that the Thai government or at least immigration is reading comments on Thai Visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 What a nice gesture, bit different to Khonkaen, they only want a photo..... Not of me but my catheter bag.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, colinneil said: What a nice gesture, bit different to Khonkaen, they only want a photo..... Not of me but my catheter bag.???? Ah, but was it your birthday when they photographed your catheter bag? That's probably why you and your bag aren't in the photo as 'Exhibit A' like the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallander4 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 So did he get the usual Chiang Mai Karaoke-bill of 50k …. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Oh sweet Jasus! Seriously ? Hold back my hair, hold back my hair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Apparently it wasn't Mr John's actual birthday - but it was near enough. But it's the thought that counts, no? 23 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Deputy at Region 4 immigration Pol Col Phallop Suriyakun said it was all part of Lt-Gen Surachate "Big Joke" Hakparn's policy to impress visitors to immigration. Failed to impress TV's inveterate immigration bashers either - but it was near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
555mike Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 what a blatant attempt at damage control by immigration after yesterdays, monthly shifting of the goal posts and bureaucracy expansion with relation to retirement visa's. Thaivisa is being used as a propaganda arm for the immigration department, daily news of immigration round ups, crime reporting, trying to shape falang perception. The immigration offices are not much better than meat processing centers. Anyone else here had someone smile at them at immigration recently, let alone sing you a song? <deleted> this is. Thaivisa has become a propaganda distribution and intelligence gathering organization for the Thai military Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Briggsy said: What we see as "irrational behaviour" here is sometimes driven by the relationship between a subordinate and their boss. This relationship is opaque and has very considerable vertical distance in Thailand. That is to say the boss can drastically affect the subordinate's lives either positively or negatively. It is something along the lines of a medieval lord and his serfs. This birthday cake stunt may well have had nothing to do with "Mr John", the Norwegian, and everything to do with trying to project an image to their overlords in Bangkok that Chiang Mai Immigration was no longer hostile to its foreign users. If he were to walk outside, get a taxi and then said driver finds his wallet, then my head is going to explode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I feel cheated out of my cake now???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, rooster59 said: He said that immigration knows your birthday 33 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Apparently it wasn't Mr John's actual birthday Wonder what they actually know. They know where I live (after all the 90 day reports I've made) but still needs a new report every 90 days,why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbug Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, 555mike said: what a blatant attempt at damage control by immigration after yesterdays, monthly shifting of the goal posts and bureaucracy expansion with relation to retirement visa's. Thaivisa is being used as a propaganda arm for the immigration department, daily news of immigration round ups, crime reporting, trying to shape falang perception. The immigration offices are not much better than meat processing centers. Anyone else here had someone smile at them at immigration recently, let alone sing you a song? <deleted> this is. Thaivisa has become a propaganda distribution and intelligence gathering organization for the Thai military great post mike, most people who still believe they are being savvy when living on this land have their eyes closed and think of fairer rules of law societies, without thinking of the huge intelligence gathering of the junta in all aspects of society. Internet and social media and free to access forums have become easy fodder for propaganda, its the battleground of control that they been learning from their partners the chinese state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycu Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BestB said: But was his extension granted????????????? Only after his bank account was studied to make certain there were enough money for them to share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, Vacuum said: Wonder what they actually know. They know where I live (after all the 90 day reports I've made) but still needs a new report every 90 days,why is that? It's genuine concern about you and your health. They do worry about you and need to know you're well. No other reason has ever occurred to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 My fellow Norwegian doesn't look too convinced in the picture, maybe he was expecting a deportation instead. Now he can relax for another year. And wait for another birthday cake, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Pilotman said: I am beginning to think that all of immigration are as mad as a box of frogs. Nice enough gesture, but really? It's not how you expect such things to be at home, but it is the Thai way of doing things. Is it wrong? NO!!! I for one don't want everything to look the same as my original country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 hours ago, simon43 said: I must say that all those female immigration officers look rather 'vicious' ???? I have never seen so many female IO's at CNX IO are they from renta crowd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I read about all the problems with immigration but I have to say that I find them all to be crap. Maybe pathum thani is in the twilight zone but I had never in 9 years had any issues with them Just did my annual extension in 45 minutes including my new residence and 90day. The only thing different was they kept maybankkimeng statement and my letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 It was a nice gesture. Now, if they would only stop picking on ex-pats, by continually raising the bar, in terms of their requirements for marriage and retirement visas. Perhaps this was a PR stunt, to make up for the increasingly draconian rules and regulations. Keep money in the bank 90 days AFTER the visa is approved. Give me a break. Do you really want us all to leave/ Really? Are you guys really that dim witted? No ability to see the big picture on any level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, scorecard said: It's not how you expect such things to be at home, but it is the Thai way of doing things. Is it wrong? NO!!! I for one don't want everything to look the same as my original country. Forgive me, but all that I need and want from IOs is for them to be efficient in getting me through and out the door, know their own rules and apply them consistently and not take back handers. Exhibitions like this one leave me cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Ask what the people in the queue thought. Great birthday gift for a diabetic though, or at least encouraging the creation of one. Why not buy him a pint or a marine plankton smoothie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Maybe the trend will spread to Pattaya Immigration ???? though I must say they have always been pleasant enough so far ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB2 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 5 hours ago, simon43 said: I must say that all those female immigration officers look rather 'vicious' ???? Their shoes all look very suspicious too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 5 hours ago, colinneil said: What a nice gesture, bit different to Khonkaen, they only want a photo..... Not of me but my catheter bag.???? You're lucky. I never get asked for photos at KK. Next time I have to visit, I'll complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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