50 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

I'm shocked that the shooter filmed it and even more shocked that someone has put it on view for the general public!

 

Muslims all over the world are going to be seeking revenge for this vile atrocity and who can blame them.

Yogi do you remember posting this or not?

 

Revenge is an acceptable motive according to you.

21 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

Are you for real!

 

You might be shocked if it was your innocent friends and family being murdered in cold blood for no reason and then having their slaughter put on the internet for all to see.

 

I bet you'd be singing a different tune then nor would you be saying 'welcome to social media'

Welcome to social media. There is nothing you or I can do about..its the real world. Trying to put me on a guilt trip is ridiculous..grow up or leave the internet world and go read books.

Forty dead, 20 seriously wounded in New Zealand mosque shootings

 

An injured person is loaded into an ambulance following a shooting at the Al Noor mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand, March 15, 2019. REUTERS/SNPA/Martin Hunter

 

WELLINGTON (Reuters) - Forty people were killed and more than 20 seriously wounded in shootings at two mosques in New Zealand on Friday, in what Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said was a terrorist attack.

 

The massacre by at least one gunman during Friday prayers in the city of Christchurch is the country's worst ever mass shooting and was condemned throughout Asia.

 

"We believe that 40 people have lost their lives in this act of extreme violence," Ardern said.

 

"It is clear that this can now only be described as a terrorist attack."

 

Ardern said New Zealand had been placed on its highest security threat level. She said four people in police custody held extremist views, but had not been on any police watchlists.

 

Video footage widely circulated on social media, apparently taken by a gunman and posted online live as the attack unfolded, showed him driving to one mosque, entering it and shooting randomly at people inside.

 

Worshippers, possibly dead or wounded, lay huddled on the floor of the mosque, the video showed. Reuters was unable to confirm the authenticity of the footage.

 

One man who said he was at the Al Noor mosque told media the gunman was white, blond and wearing a helmet and a bulletproof vest. The man burst into the mosque as worshippers were kneeling for prayers.

 

"He had a big gun ... he came and started shooting everyone in the mosque, everywhere," said the man, Ahmad Al-Mahmoud. He said he and others escaped by breaking through a glass door.

 

Radio New Zealand quoted a witness inside the mosque saying he heard shots fired and at least four people were lying on the ground and "there was blood everywhere".

 

Ardern said 30 people were killed at the Al Noor mosque, the city's main mosque, and another 10 at a mosque in the suburb of Linwood.

 

"This is one of New Zealand's darkest days," she said.

 

New Zealand's Police Commissioner Mike Bush said four people - three men and a woman - had been taken into custody.

 

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said one of the men in custody was Australian.

 

Police said IEDs, improvised explosive devices, were found with a vehicle they stopped.

 

The online video footage, which appeared to have been captured on a camera strapped to the gunman's head, showed red petrol canisters in the back of his car, along with weapons.

 

All mosques in New Zealand had been asked to shut their doors, police said.

 

The Bangladesh cricket team was arriving for Friday prayers when the shooting occurred but all members were safe, a team coach told Reuters.

 

Political and Islamic leaders across Asia expressed their disgust at the deadly shooting.

 

"Indonesia strongly condemns this shooting act, especially at a place of worship while a Friday prayer was ongoing," Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi said in a statement.

 

(Reporting by Charlotte Greenfield and Praveen Menon; Editing by Robert Birsel and Michael Perry)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-03-15

  

Sadly this is my home city. These syco,s come bere and kill people at prayer. All of us are disgusted by this act live streamed by this psycho. To see him execute women and children and clai. He is defending us. I only wish we still hung people. I would go and watch.

22 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

Would you care to indicate where I've said or even insinuated that?

 

The desire for revenge forments in all races and religions, it's an integral part of human nature.

The desire for revenge is NOT innate in all humans, thank goodness

This is only the beginning from another side of a deadly coin called religion.

53 minutes ago, madmen said:

nothing wrong with seeing the real world we live in.

The reason we don't put up atrocity videos is because it is uncivilized to do so.

18 minutes ago, madmen said:

Welcome to social media. There is nothing you or I can do about..its the real world. Trying to put me on a guilt trip is ridiculous..grow up or leave the internet world and go read books.

"In keeping with other media and the NZ authorities, video link made by the shooters has been removed."

 

Above is a quote from a previous post. Apparently not all that appears on social media is as acceptable as you seem to suggest.

 

 

The guys manifesto, he posted this on FB, instagram etc yesterday. He really is no better that than any other nut job terrorist, the very people he claims to be fighting against.

 

 

The Great Replacement.docx The Great Replacement.pdf

9 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

The desire for revenge is NOT innate in all humans, thank goodness

I said all races and religions not all humans.

1 minute ago, yogi100 said:

"In keeping with other media and the NZ authorities, video link made by the shooters has been removed."

 

Above is a quote from a previous post. Apparently not all that appears on social media is as acceptable as you seem to suggest.

 

 

Its obscene footage. It's a live action snuff film. Banned everywhere human sensibilities reside.

Just now, yogi100 said:

I said all races and religions not all humans.

Surely all Humans belong to a race or religion ?

My thoughts are with families of those killed and injured.

I trust that the NZ government has rallied to bring in counsellors for those both directly and indirectly affected by this gross act.

The people of Christchurch will be reeling under this gross act.

NZ has a reputation for accepting those who are seeking asylum and welcoming them.

A dark day in NZ history. 

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Surely all Humans belong to a race or religion ?

Count me out of the religion slot , i dumped that lot when i was as young as 9/10 years old .. folks trying to feed me full of historic crap.

2 hours ago, robblok said:

That is pretty gruesome, who said that white terrorists are not a problem. The guy keeps reloading and shooting people. Guys like this do deserve the death penalty. I am against it in general but with evidence like this. 

You are either for or against the death penalty.

Viewing the live footage reminded of the video game DOOM.   Stroll into a building with a high-powered weapon.   Slaughter as many as you can.   Replace magazine.   Go to another room.  Continue the slaughter.   Very  nonchalant.   It's only a game.

 

How very distressing for the innocent victims.

 

Hate begets hate, just surprised this has not happened before given the state of the world we live in. Expect we will get the usual candles and platitudes about staying strong as usual without looking at the causes for this type of atrocity. There will of course be revenge attacks at some point.

23 minutes ago, Liverpudlian said:

This is only the beginning from another side of a deadly coin called religion.

As if politics is any better.

 

RIP to the dead. 

6 minutes ago, hansnl said:

You are either for or against the death penalty.

Very few people are against the death penalty...there are always "exceptions"

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

 

Muslims all over the world are going to be seeking revenge for this vile atrocity and who can blame them.

The shooter guy stated that he carried out the killings due to revenge for Muslim terror attacks against Westerners .

  So............................will you not be blaming the shooter guy ?

42 minutes ago, Liverpudlian said:

This is only the beginning from another side of a deadly coin called religion.

The murderer is a right wing nut job, apparently motivated by hatred of those seeking refuge from war and terror.

Edited March 15, 20197 yr by Bluespunk

23 minutes ago, Radar501 said:

Viewing the live footage reminded of the video game DOOM.   Stroll into a building with a high-powered weapon.   Slaughter as many as you can.   Replace magazine.   Go to another room.  Continue the slaughter.   Very  nonchalant.   It's only a game.

 

How very distressing for the innocent victims.

 

My thought too.

How Hollywood and computer games pump out this kind of voilence haunts me. Sure , you and me understand it's a fantasy movie, but there are those affected in a deeper psycho logical way. That debate can be left to a seperate thread though.

It's our world now. 

Condolences to the families affected.

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The murderer is a right wing nut job, apparently motivated by hatred of those seeking refuge from war and terror.

 

No doubt. But my impression was that he looked like someone who'd spent a few thousand hours training with one of these:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first-person_shooters

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The murderer is a right wing nut job, apparently motivated by hatred of those seeking refuge from war and terror.

Unfortunatly so many of those "seeking refuge from war and terror" are just either economic migrants or terrorists bringing their hate for the west with them, and please do not for a moment think i agree with what he did .

8 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The shooter guy stated that he carried out the killings due to revenge for Muslim terror attacks against Westerners .

  So............................will you not be blaming the shooter guy ?

Terrorist atrocities will always occur until politicians realise that different peoples can not be made to integrate nor live together in harmony. And act upon that realisation.

 

There has been ample evidence if not absolute proof in recent years that extremists will often come out of the woodwork and commit unspeakable horrors.

 

And I am as aware as I'm sure you are as to what the common denominator is.

57 minutes ago, Kiwiken said:

Sadly this is my home city. These syco,s come bere and kill people at prayer. All of us are disgusted by this act live streamed by this psycho. To see him execute women and children and clai. He is defending us. I only wish we still hung people. I would go and watch.

Yes I saw the live stream, so calm and got back in his car and just drove away as if it was nothing. Sickening 

5 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

Terrorist atrocities will always occur until politicians realise that different peoples can not be made to integrate nor live together in harmony. And act upon that realisation.

 

There has been ample evidence if not absolute proof in recent years that extremists will often come out of the woodwork and commit unspeakable horrors.

 

And I am as aware as I'm sure you are as to what the common denominator is.

The common denominator is always money, though most choose to look at in other terms.

3 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

Terrorist atrocities will always occur until politicians realise that different peoples can not be made to integrate nor live together in harmony. And act upon that realisation.

 

There has been ample evidence if not absolute proof in recent years that extremists will often come out of the woodwork and commit unspeakable horrors.

 

And I am as aware as I'm sure you are as to what the common denominator is.

Sounds like parts of the guy's manifesto.

6 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Unfortunatly so many of those "seeking refuge from war and terror" are just either economic migrants or terrorists bringing their hate for the west with them, and please do not for a moment think i agree with what he did .

Completely disagree with your assessment of the motivations of those fleeing war, terror or seeking a better life.

 

I really don’t care why someone leaves their country, done it all my life, no reason to hate those doing so. 

44 minutes ago, hansnl said:

You are either for or against the death penalty.

I am against it, unless in rare cases with video evidence.