Must Read Britain's May offers to quit to get her Brexit deal over the line

[stephenterry]

29 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

The 55% that want to Remain are also enemies of the people!

Or perhaps it's 45% that want to leave are enemies of the people.

[puipuitom]

47 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Farage has been too busy in his job as the UK Ambassador to the United States. ????

He has no time... has to join every breefing in how to get as much as possible pension from the EU, see "farage takes eu pension" in google, despite  Farage has attended 40% of roll-call votes, the worst voting record of all British MEPs at the European parliament.  The pro-remain MEP Julie Girling, expelled from the Tories after clashing with the leadership over Brexit, tweeted that she had “never seen so many Ukip members attend a meeting in Strasbourg before”. For a € 8.500 tax-free per month… worth the few additional trips.

Edited March 28, 2019 by puipuitom

[stephenterry]

15 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

May's deal is not what Brexiteers voted for, but a majority still wants her to carry on as Prime Minister.

 

This is one of the surprise findings of a new Brexit poll which makes a nonsense of Remainer claims that the majority Brits who voted Leave have changed their minds and are against leaving without a deal on WTO terms.

 

 

Which just goes to show how dissolutional they are. In any event, parliament won't sanction a no deal. 

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

Which just goes to show how dissolutional they are. In any event, parliament won't sanction a no deal. 

Do you think the EU will have a say in it. They have more of a say than we have.

[puipuitom]

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

   The E.U makes the laws and the UK abides  by them .

 

And in these law making bodies every member state has its representatives, so nothing "UK abides them": 

in the council of ministers ( the prime minister or the minister in charge, e.g. agricuture)

in the council of Commissioners ( Julian King)

in the EU parliament ( 75 UK members) 

[bomber]

32 minutes ago, vogie said:

Do you think the EU will have a say in it. They have more of a say than we have.

Spoons has got the better of you now.

[Gecko123]

Theresa May looks like a turkey looking forward to Thanksgiving.

Edited March 28, 2019 by Gecko123

[bomber]

1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

The Speaker of the House is the Chair. 

A very important chair at that

[Spidey]

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

They are not responsible for anything.

Totally irresponsible actually.

[tomacht8]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

There are a few other options like:

3) Stay in the EU, but with another deal (Swiss / Norway / Canadian deal )

4) Forget the entire Brexit operation as a stupid / bad dream

 

For a new referendum, all options must be available.

Just to get it right, who is an EU member and who is not.

 

4. Forget the entire Brexit operation as a stupid / bad dream and stay in th EU.

3. Leave the EU and have a deal like Norway/Swiss/Canada. All 3 are not EU members.

 

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, superal said:

David Davies ,  wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Davis_(British_politician) , suggest you read his C.V. before making unkind remarks . likewise to Dominic Raab , wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab  . You have to remember that they both resigned because they were not puppets of TM nor were they yes men .

As for Farage , you are beginning to sound like an American democrat who despises Trump without just reasons or evidence but there again some folk like to criticise for the sake of it .

I would welcome your views on what it would require to solve the current Brexit impasse and who you think has the leadership powers for the benefit of the UK.

I've heard Davies and Raab talk plenty of times, that's quite enough for me thanks, plenty of wank##s, get qualitfications, so what. I am not an American - full stop - but it is clear that Trump is one of the most unspeakably foul men ever to hold high office in any country anywhere. He actually manages to make that rather sad and utterly vulgar man Fromage, look human. Trump must have the vastest bum of any leader on the planet, Fromage to his credit looks quite slim, maybe it's the fags and/or the beer.

Whatever my (Or your) views I agree we have a terrible crisis in UK politics. Nicola Sturgeon is the only party leader in Britain with any statesmanship, and she obviously doesn't first the UK wide bill. If you really want to solve anything you have to have the ability to compromise, which means being a moderate in your party. Hammond, Starmer, or Clarke would get my vote. You are actually looking for mature people here, not frothing at the mouth ideologues like JRM or Corbyn, May is already toast, and as flexible as a RSJ  (Rolled steel joist).

[evadgib]

The Mogg on talkradio this morning:

 

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

And in these law making bodies every member state has its representatives, so nothing "UK abides them": 

 

in the council of ministers ( the prime minister or the minister in charge, e.g. agricuture)

 

in the council of Commissioners ( Julian King)

 

in the EU parliament ( 75 UK members) 

 

Yes, I do realise that the UK was part of the decision making and that the UK was a signatory of the agreement  , but , that is besides the point .

   The point is that they are E.U laws , made by the E.U. and the UK has to comply with them .

   3 Million or so Europeans moved to the UK to live and work and theres nothing that the UK can do to either stop them or stop another 10 million coming 

[sanemax]

2 hours ago, AlexRich said:

The 55% that want to Remain are also enemies of the people!

Stop exaggerating , no one has claimed that they are "enemies of the people" , they are people with an opinion and welcome to it , some people also have a differing opinion .

  No one is the "enemy of the people"

[Baerboxer]

14 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I have run out of metaphors for 'self-harm', so I will repeat my favourite;

 

Never before have I seen a country so utterly determined to shoot itself in the crotch.

 

It is pure speculation, but one has to wonder; how much better of a country would the UK have been if it hadn't wasted so much political time, so much political energy and so much political effort on this issue? What might it have achieved? What new structures might it have created? What new ideas might have bubbled up and been implemented? How much further ahead might it have gone?

 

All this energy, merely to make oneself smaller...

 

 

 

Indeed. Your speculation is shared by many. But sadly in the current UK their just isn't a choice. Our spineless self serving politicians, on both sides, have been shown up for what they are. 

 

Donald Tusk tweeted yesterday that he wants the EP to stand by the British people who are being so badly served by their MP's they thought serving them. 

 

A voice of sanity in this buggers muddle.

[Baerboxer]

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Yes, I do realise that the UK was part of the decision making and that the UK was a signatory of the agreement  , but , that is besides the point .

   The point is that they are E.U laws , made by the E.U. and the UK has to comply with them .

   3 Million or so Europeans moved to the UK to live and work and theres nothing that the UK can do to either stop them or stop another 10 million coming 

 

And how many British citizens work, live and retire to EU countries at the moment.

 

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, puipuitom said:

With a new election, I hope the British voters will remind, who were in favour for a Brexit (without any conditions) and who for a Remain. Maybe better NOT to elect any of the Conservatives nor Labour, who both made a mess of it.

Still: The UK has to make up its mind before 11 April if it will join the EU Parliament election of.. be thrown out 23 of May. After over 3 years of talking, quite some EU citizens, but especially procurement managers are fed op with the uncertinaty.

 

I wouldn't want to vote for Conservative or Labor. But sadly, they're very few credible alternatives.

 

 

[bomber]

11 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

And how many British citizens work, live and retire to EU countries at the moment.

 

A lot and the numbers rise year after year...yet even some of these voted for brexir...not laffing now are they...

 

[Spidey]

2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

May's deal is not what Brexiteers voted for, but a majority still wants her to carry on as Prime Minister.

 

This is one of the surprise findings of a new Brexit poll which makes a nonsense of Remainer claims that the majority Brits who voted Leave have changed their minds and are against leaving without a deal on WTO terms.

 

 

Never heard of ComRes but have heard of the BBC.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47693645

 

There are polls and there are polls.

[Krataiboy]

7 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Never heard of ComRes but have heard of the BBC.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47693645

 

There are polls and there are polls.

Yes, but probably more credible if they are conducted by a reasonably impartial source.

Edited March 28, 2019 by Krataiboy

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, Krataiboy said:

Yes, but probably more credible if one references a reasonably impartial source. Got one?

The BBC is recognised as the most impartial news outlet in the world.

[Krataiboy]

Just now, Spidey said:

The BBC is recognised as the most impartial news outlet in the world.

Only by the naive.

[Spidey]

2 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Only by the naive.

Interesting that the video you posted is by a YouTuber called "Politico". Watch his other vlogs. Blatant racist.

 

Recommends 5 other YouTube sites. One of them "Tommy Robinson" aka Tommy Islam.

 

More impartial than the BBC? You're avin a giraffe!

[RuamRudy]

11 minutes ago, Spidey said:

The BBC is recognised as the most impartial news outlet in the world.

 

BBC bias and the Scots referendum - new report

Dr John Robertson from University of West Scotland has just published research on bias and fairness in news reporting on the issue of the Scottish referendum, covering both ITV (STV) and BBC. Here's what he found.

"... on the objective evidence presented here, the mainstream TV coverage of the first year of the independence referendum campaigns has not been fair or balanced. Taken together, we have evidence of coverage which seems likely to have damaged the Yes campaign."

[aright]

"How ironic it was last week to hear the BBC leading its news on that Commons report claiming that our “democracy is being destroyed” by the flood of “fake news” spread by social media. In fact, thanks to the relentless bias of its own coverage of so many issues, there is no more influential source of “fake news” than the BBC itself. Here are two glaring, but far from untypical, recent examples."

 

https://www.thegwpf.com/the-supposedly-impartial-bbc-should-hang-its-head-in-shame-at-its-relentless-bias/

[Spidey]

3 minutes ago, aright said:

"How ironic it was last week to hear the BBC leading its news on that Commons report claiming that our “democracy is being destroyed” by the flood of “fake news” spread by social media. In fact, thanks to the relentless bias of its own coverage of so many issues, there is no more influential source of “fake news” than the BBC itself. Here are two glaring, but far from untypical, recent examples."

 

https://www.thegwpf.com/the-supposedly-impartial-bbc-should-hang-its-head-in-shame-at-its-relentless-bias/

Published by a company bent on denying global warming.

 

You really should check your sources.

[Spidey]

6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

BBC bias and the Scots referendum - new report

Dr John Robertson from University of West Scotland has just published research on bias and fairness in news reporting on the issue of the Scottish referendum, covering both ITV (STV) and BBC. Here's what he found.

"... on the objective evidence presented here, the mainstream TV coverage of the first year of the independence referendum campaigns has not been fair or balanced. Taken together, we have evidence of coverage which seems likely to have damaged the Yes campaign."

So STV and the BBC. Sounds like a sore loser.

[AlexRich]

3 hours ago, evadgib said:

Mark Francois on form a few mins ago:

 

I’d pay extra to see the trigger pulled.

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

So STV and the BBC. Sounds like a sore loser.

If published academic research is insufficient for you to accept, what would it take to convince you?

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, stephenterry said:

Or perhaps it's 45% that want to leave are enemies of the people.

Following Brexiteer logic if there is a second referendum then the people will be the enemies of the people.