4 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

How long have you been making monthly transfers?

Your application should of been accepted if you have been doing them since January.

Immigration offices were sent a directive in December to be flexible and lenient this year.

They were sent a "...directive in December to be flexible and lenient this year."  Flexible and lenient, ie as in be nice to retired expats...stop braking their balls, pushing back so hard on them???  Why are they putting the screws to us in the first place.  Aren't we part of the "good guys" in??  But we're treated like the "bad guys" out!  WHY!  I thought Thailand was LOS.  

Edited April 9, 20197 yr by mike787

living on 65,000baht per month is being comfortable, able to pay all the bills and save a little.

in the U.S. my social security would be good for a space under a bridge or maybe a swamp.

there is no way i could live in the U.S.  get real and look at the cost of living in the U.S. and medical and pharmacy.

not all people have an unlimited amount of money like some people on here, to be able to do the 800,000baht retirement.

hey want to be a nice guy loan me 800,000baht to sit in the bank!!!!!

it is always the people that have that criticize the people who have found a way to IMPROVE THERE QUALITY OF LIVING!!

 

4 hours ago, vinniekintana said:

It astounds me that some ppl make 65k a month and they cannot rub together 800k and be done with it.

Its obvious it's entirely (government) pension. Invested to the hilt to clear 65k. Cash poor. Entirely no sympathy, that's a very sizable pension. Most people born after 1965 would never see such windfall.

 

GBH and sleep on relatives couch for a year.

3 hours ago, sfokevin said:

From what the OP originally said he presented proof of quarterly foreign transfers... This under the letter of the law is insufficient... Monthly means monthly...

But then the OP changed to monthly payments. It's in the first post on this thread. 

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

You can see a lot. 

Ever  thought of being a Medium. ?

They've done exactly that already to people using the income method. We now have to bring 65k baht into Thailand from abroad each and every month, plus, if asked, provide proof of where that income originated from.

 

You think they can't/won't do the same/similar in the future to prove people using the 'money in the bank' have an adequate income for living expenses while in Thailand.

 

Tell me why do you think this can't/won't happen????

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

How long have you been making monthly transfers?

Your application should of been accepted if you have been doing them since January.

Immigration offices were sent a directive in December to be flexible and lenient this year.

What can you do if they do not show any leniency.? I assume you will say phone the hotline  - have you seen any reports that the IO has been told to change something after phoning .? On any matter.

2 hours ago, sfokevin said:

The OP.. ”In March I transferred more than 65k X 3 to cover living expenses for April, May and June.“

 

That does not sound like he made monthly transfers to me... 

He says:

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The new rules demanded that I transition to transfers every month. Which I started as soon as the changes were released.

(Emphasis mine). The reference to transferring money for April, May & June was merely an example of how he had been doing it previously, before the new rules came into effect.

 

As others have pointed out, he could hardly be expected to have been complying with rules before they had even been announced.

The OP seems to have disappeared...

and the amazing thing is one can live in the UK on a 27,000 baht pension, have a car etc, pay rent and rates, but come to this country and they want 65,000 baht,  thats more than the deputy PM gets,

 

Edited April 9, 20197 yr by mercman24

1 hour ago, Thailand said:

With a minimum of 400K in the bank at all times,does not sound like combination,just like 800K lump sum? Or does the combo now require 400K in the bank at all times?

It is the combo method.

 

The new rules imply that 400K is the minimum cash balance for the combo method, and Hua Hin are at the third office, I know of, that have confirmed that condition.

3 hours ago, sfokevin said:

From what the OP originally said he presented proof of quarterly foreign transfers... This under the letter of the law is insufficient... Monthly means monthly...

read again what the OP stated:

"The new rules demanded that I transition to transfers every month. Which I started as soon as the changes were released"

21 minutes ago, Benroon said:

Do you think your life would be a little happier/less stressful if you confined your stressing to what's happening now and not what MIGHT/MIGHT NOT happen in the future ?

What you mean, move the posts again?That will never happen!????????????

24 minutes ago, Benroon said:

Do you think your life would be a little happier/less stressful if you confined your stressing to what's happening now and not what MIGHT/MIGHT NOT happen in the future ?

I'm certainly not stressing, I'm happy, relaxed and chilling out while looking at options.????

1 hour ago, mercman24 said:

and the amazing thing is one can live in the UK on a 27,000 baht pension, have a car etc, pay rent and rates, but come to this country and they want 65,000 baht,  thats more than the deputy PM gets,

 

The 65K is set as a way of controlling numbers, not how much they think you need to live on.

8 hours ago, vinniekintana said:

It astounds me that some ppl make 65k a month and they cannot rub together 800k and be done with it.

The above statement is astounding.

 

And with regard to my circumstances: after these ridiculous regulations, I am not the least bit interested in having funds in a Thai bank which I can never use. I have done it for years but no more.

Edited April 9, 20197 yr by 300sd

1 hour ago, pontious said:

 

 

1 hour ago, pontious said:

6 hours ago, pontious said:

Joe, What can you do if they do not show any leniency.? I assume you will say phone the hotline  - have you seen any reports that the IO has been told to change something after phoning .? On any matter.

 

I have asked the same question 3 times on different threads and Joe has not answered so I assume the answer is no

41 minutes ago, pontious said:

I have asked the same question 3 times on different threads and Joe has not answered so I assume the answer is no

You could complain to the senior officer at the office you’re applying at, but as they set the rules in that office you might not get far.

 

You could complain to divisional level, or even to immigration HQ.

 

IMO unless the local officer are prepared to back down there’s little chance of a successful appeal.

7 hours ago, elviajero said:

You could complain to the senior officer at the office you’re applying at, but as they set the rules in that office you might not get far.

 

You could complain to divisional level, or even to immigration HQ.

 

IMO unless the local officer are prepared to back down there’s little chance of a successful appeal.

Thank you for the reply. In that case the 'Directive to show leniency' is not a directive but a complete waste of paper.

15 hours ago, pontious said:

What can you do if they do not show any leniency.? I assume you will say phone the hotline  - have you seen any reports that the IO has been told to change something after phoning .? On any matter.

I first requested to speak to the senior IO, but was told not available.

I then used the hotline because the IO in question obviously wasn't familiar with their own orders.

They spoke to the IO in question and the situation was resolved.

 

 

20 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

My best guess is that Chai19 made one transfer in January of at least 195,000 baht, and a second transfer if at least 195,000 in March. Maybe if those had been broken down into four (4) (Jan, Feb, Mar and Apr) individual transfers "leniency" would have been a factor?

Although he did state

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The new rules demanded that I transition to transfers every month. Which I started as soon as the changes were released.

It appears the leniency memo has not been factored in, or one is expected to'claim for' leniency.

19 hours ago, sumrit said:

Do things correctly and it's not necessary to waste money on using an agent.

Some might say spend the money on an agent, and not waste money sitting in the bank. 

18 hours ago, sfokevin said:

From what the OP originally said he presented proof of quarterly foreign transfers... This under the letter of the law is insufficient... Monthly means monthly...

He also stated 

The new rules demanded that I transition to transfers every month. Which I started as soon as the changes were released.

It is tough to comply to backdated requirement changes. Because of this a later memo suggested IOs to be lenient during this year and accept an incomplete year of monthly transfers, so long as they complied from when the regulation changed. 

I wouldn't like to try to live on that in the UK. Around £8000 p.a.
You can barely exist on that. If you had a car, you would struggle to run and maintain it. Anyone in the UK has already paid National Insurance and gets comprehensive free healthcare and other benefits.
Once you travel to Thailand you have to factor all that in.
As for the deputy PM not earning that, I don't think so. A basic MP salary plus additional salary for all cabinet members.

and the amazing thing is one can live in the UK on a 27,000 baht pension, have a car etc, pay rent and rates, but come to this country and they want 65,000 baht,  thats more than the deputy PM gets,
 

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£146,000 for any cabinet member

I wouldn't like to try to live on that in the UK. Around £8000 p.a.
You can barely exist on that. If you had a car, you would struggle to run and maintain it. Anyone in the UK has already paid National Insurance and gets comprehensive free healthcare and other benefits.
Once you travel to Thailand you have to factor all that in.
As for the deputy PM not earning that, I don't think so. A basic MP salary plus additional salary for all cabinet members.


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20 hours ago, vinniekintana said:

It astounds me that some ppl make 65k a month and they cannot rub together 800k and be done with it.

Don't know how many times it needs to be said on here but a lot of folk prefer to use the income method for various reasons, NOT because they can't afford to deposit 800,000 in the bank.

46 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

I first requested to speak to the senior IO, but was told not available.

I then used the hotline because the IO in question obviously wasn't familiar with their own orders.

They spoke to the IO in question and the situation was resolved.

 

 

Related to leniency or something else?

Which hotline number did you you use, obviously efficient?

17 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

The order is monthly, not quarterly transfers.

 

Using your logic, would it be OK to show 780K and tell the IO it was 65K x 12 ???

Next year, yes. This year they've been ordered to show leniency. I know they probably don't know the meaning of the word, but there it is.

17 hours ago, Snow Leopard said:

Not everyone is in the same boat. Have some understanding and consideration instead of looking down on them. 

Well said! There're too many on here eager to put the boot into their fellow farang.

15 minutes ago, Thailand said:

Related to leniency or something else?

Which hotline number did you you use, obviously efficient?

Not leniency, but a disagreement about written orders and seasoning period.

1111.

17 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Next year, yes. This year they've been ordered to show leniency. I know they probably don't know the meaning of the word, but there it is.

The leniency is to allow persons who cannot provide 12 months of bank transfers

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