a royalist as well ?!!! Ye gods you love a lost cause don't you

Lost cause indeed??
May I ask if your home country is one of the subsidy junkie eu member states??

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Nope..the david davis show U hope[emoji6]

O.K. so the J.C show can start …? lol

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Robbins was in it from the start, part of the collusion and deception which Davis had to identify, try to fight and finally resign over, after the secretive surrender document ("deal") was unveiled at Chequers.

So David Davis and the EU worked on a deal for 23 months, but at the same time Olly Robbins was secretly working with the EU on another deal. Do you actually believe your own nonsense? 

 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Even by the end of 2017 it was obvious that Davis was not being allowed to do his job and he might as well have quit then.

What professional stays in charge for something that he is not allowed to do? 

 

1 minute ago, malagateddy said:

Nope..the david davis show U hope

 

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both could be fun ….

Edited April 12, 20197 yr by david555

38 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Brexit will never die..don't think you know or understand British people too well
Best if you read up about the 2nd world war..it will give you a better understanding re tge very very strong mental strength of the average Brit.

 

I might publish a book with your posts one day. “Best of Brexiteers” or so. 

What professional stays in charge for something that he is not allowed to do? 
 

David Davis was being backstabbed from day 1 by olly whatsitsface who was working for the remoaning teresa the appesa

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With my permission of course..but wait..the inglorious eu would not allow it...being a truthful book

I might publish a book with your posts one day. “Best of Brexiteers” or so. 

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19 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

David Davis was being backstabbed from day 1 by olly whatsitsface who was working for the remoaning teresa the appesa

Being backstabbed from Day 1 but staying for two years? Guess that says a lot about his capabilities. 

26 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

So David Davis and the EU worked on a deal for 23 months, but at the same time Olly Robbins was secretly working with the EU on another deal. Do you actually believe your own nonsense? 

 

What professional stays in charge for something that he is not allowed to do? 

 

 

Not just my "nonsense". Try the Times from late 2017 (you can get a 30 day free trial if you need to).

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-davis-sidelined-as-brussels-tries-to-undermine-him-zw2vvhd7s

 

As a professional he was dedicated enough to put up with this crap for at least 8 months longer than he need to, hoping that he could influence May. Obviously that was a waste of time.

 

5 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Being backstabbed from Day 1 but staying for two years? Guess that says a lot about his capabilities. 

He's a tough guy. But the cuts got too deep. 

29 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Ever bothered to read bout the ultimate aim of eu jobsworths????
In the UK house of horrors down westmonster way..an mp can propose a private members bill..no chance of that in brussels.
Mep's can only debate all the b/s that the eu top kddies give them.
Totally top down dictatorship.....do yourself a favour..google " brexit the movie"..watch it objectively then come back to me

Have a lovely day

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I'm not sure if a Doc and medicine can help you. Sounds insane. 

You are infiltrated and indoctrinated by all those pretty lies spread by populists over uneducated people ignoring the facts but applauding to "fake news" believing what President Google spat out. 

I'll give you only one fact:

EU parliament is elected and UK will again take part this year's election. And everthing what comes from this parliament is issued by consent of UK govt. 

An mep cannot propose a private members bill as a uk mp can do.
Ask yourself this..what is the ultimate aim of the eu jobsworths..

I'm not sure if a Doc and medicine can help you. Sounds insane. 
You are infiltrated and indoctrinated by all those pretty lies spread by populists over uneducated people ignoring the facts but applauding to "fake news" believing what President Google spat out. 
I'll give you only one fact:
EU parliament is elected and UK will again take part this year's election. And everthing what comes from this parliament is issued by consent of UK govt. 

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23 minutes ago, nauseus said:

He's a tough guy. But the cuts got too deep. 

Staying in charge of something that you cannot deliver doesn’t make you a tough guy, it just shows you’re incredibly stupid. No professional would ever sign up for it. 

 

 

 

Edited April 12, 20197 yr by welovesundaysatspace

57 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

I'm not sure if a Doc and medicine can help you. Sounds insane. 

You are infiltrated and indoctrinated by all those pretty lies spread by populists over uneducated people ignoring the facts but applauding to "fake news" believing what President Google spat out. 

I'll give you only one fact:

EU parliament is elected and UK will again take part this year's election. And everthing what comes from this parliament is issued by consent of UK govt. 

"Ficker than us"...again?

Edited April 12, 20197 yr by evadgib

45 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Staying in charge of something that you cannot deliver doesn’t make you a tough guy, it just shows you’re incredibly stupid. No professional would ever sign up for it. 

See Einsteins definition of madness & then take a good look at your (monotonous-and-bereft-of-any-banter-or-originality) posts. 

46 minutes ago, evadgib said:

See Einsteins definition of madness & then take a good look at your (monotonous-and-bereft-of-any-banter-or-originality) posts. 

I don’t need to look at Einstein to understand that something is stupid. 

Yes you may - UK

Cheers..have a lovely day

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You too and thank you for quoting after your quote - there have been one or two slips today but Rome wasn't built in a day [emoji122]

And their enpire crumbled quick enough

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4 hours ago, Benroon said:

That will be the 43,000,000 that didn't vote for Brexit 'British people' will it ?

 

Translation - only a quarter of the population gave a rats arse about leaving

 

Its in the final throes, its dying, soon to be largely forgotten outside Darlington Working Mens Clubs, slink away to lick your wounds and search for the next insane jingoistic cause

 

All of those who did not vote in the people’s referenbum of 2016. Would if they had voted, would have voted for Brexit.

 Prove me wrong.

 

 

“Prove me wrong.”

 

When you claim something, you prove it’s right, not the other way round. Otherwise please prove wrong that you’re not wearing women’s underwear and put makeup on when you’re at home. 

Edited April 12, 20197 yr by welovesundaysatspace

20 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Staying in charge of something that you cannot deliver doesn’t make you a tough guy, it just shows you’re incredibly stupid. No professional would ever sign up for it. 

 

 

 

I see. And how would Davis know that his brief was to become undeliverable at the outset? Especially from the way the his boss was speaking at the time.

21 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I see. And how would Davis know that his brief was to become undeliverable at the outset? Especially from the way the his boss was speaking at the time.

Exactly.

 

"No deal better than a bad deal" turned into 'it's either an extremly bad deal, or no brexit'.....

 

I've no idea why some posters think this is ok.....

8 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Exactly.

 

"No deal better than a bad deal" turned into 'it's either an extremly bad deal, or no brexit'.....

 

I've no idea why some posters think this is ok.....

The problem is that the deal that Davis and others promised, before the referendum, during the leave campaign, was never going to be deliverable. It was basically all the benefits of being an EU member without having to pay for the privilege.

 

Any sensible person would have realized that for the EU to offer this it would be sounding it's own death knell.

 

So when charged with delivering what he had promised he seems to have done absolutely nothing.  

 

  

7 minutes ago, tebee said:

The problem is that the deal that Davis and others promised, before the referendum, during the leave campaign, was never going to be deliverable. It was basically all the benefits of being an EU member without having to pay for the privilege.

 

Any sensible person would have realized that for the EU to offer this it would be sounding it's own death knell.

 

So when charged with delivering what he had promised he seems to have done absolutely nothing.  

 

  

You can't say that. The negotiations that mattered were all kept secret and away from Davis. The "deal" that May has ended up with is just a treaty swap and it is no good for the UK. A proper resolution needs a fair deal - not this monster. They need to start all over again or just leave.

15 minutes ago, tebee said:

The problem is that the deal that Davis and others promised, before the referendum, during the leave campaign, was never going to be deliverable. It was basically all the benefits of being an EU member without having to pay for the privilege.

 

Any sensible person would have realized that for the EU to offer this it would be sounding it's own death knell.

 

So when charged with delivering what he had promised he seems to have done absolutely nothing.  

 

  

Not at all.

 

The leave side admittedly thought that the eu would also follow their best interests by agreeing a trade deal.

 

Unfortunately the eu knew that the brit. govt. had no interest in leaving the eu - and so any trade deal was left at the bottom of all lists.....

 

We've been 'played' by the politicians ☹️.

42 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You can't say that. The negotiations that mattered were all kept secret and away from Davis. The "deal" that May has ended up with is just a treaty swap and it is no good for the UK. A proper resolution needs a fair deal - not this monster. They need to start all over again or just leave.

 

34 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Not at all.

 

The leave side admittedly thought that the eu would also follow their best interests by agreeing a trade deal.

 

Unfortunately the eu knew that the brit. govt. had no interest in leaving the eu - and so any trade deal was left at the bottom of all lists.....

 

We've been 'played' by the politicians ☹️.

According to the civil servants in his department Davis was proposing a Canada+ deal but hadn't actually done anything about it - maybe a bit like the impact assessments ?

 

But that's a long way from the tariff and trouble free access to the single market he promised before the referendum

 

You were played by politicians who promised you the impossible.  

5 minutes ago, tebee said:

 

According to the civil servants in his department Davis was proposing a Canada+ deal but hadn't actually done anything about it - maybe a bit like the impact assessments ?

 

But that's a long way from the tariff and trouble free access to the single market he promised before the referendum

 

You were played by politicians who promised you the impossible.  

I saw Davis favoured Canada+ too but obviously that was too sensible for May, Robbins and the EU.

 

My mind was made up way before anyone promised anything so no need to assume. 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

I see. And how would Davis know that his brief was to become undeliverable at the outset? Especially from the way the his boss was speaking at the time.

So you’re saying Davis for 23 months negotiated an awesome deal and then out of a sudden Olly Robbins popped up with another deal he secretly negotiated with the EU?

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

I saw Davis favoured Canada+ too but obviously that was too sensible for May, Robbins and the EU.

 

My mind was made up way before anyone promised anything so no need to assume. 

Problem with Canada + is poor access to the single market for both goods and services and rules of origin problems.

 

I don't think anyone understand those pre-referendum and it's certainly not what leave promised. 

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

So you’re saying Davis for 23 months negotiated an awesome deal and then out of a sudden Olly Robbins popped up with another deal he secretly negotiated with the EU?

No 10 ensured Robbins undermined Davis and could only have happened if EU knew about it too.