EC credibility slammed over incorrect ‘correction’ of election results

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EC credibility slammed over incorrect ‘correction’ of election results

By The Nation 

 

 

The Election Commission (EC) had its credibility questioned after it issued a correction for an incorrect but unofficial recount result that was released on Sunday.

 

Sunday’s announcement of the recount in Nakhon Pathom province said the Future Forward Party had won over the Democrat Party by 65 votes.

But it seems the Democrat was the rightful winner over Future Forward by four votes.

 

The confusion arose on Sunday when EC commissioner Chatchai Chanpraisri told the press that the recount had found that Future Forward won the election in Nakhon Pathom’s first constituency after the recount.

 

That led the Democrat Party to challenge the new total, saying it had evidence that showed its candidate Sinthop Kaewpichit had won the constituency with 35,711 votes, while Future Forward candidate Savika Limpasuwanna earned 35,707.

 

Before the recount, Sinthop was declared the winner in the constituency, but Savika petitioned the announcement, citing mistakes in the counting.

The EC’s secretary-general Jarungvith Phumma admitted on Monday the Democrat account was accurate.

 

In a press conference, the agency deputy secretary-general Sawang Boonmee said the incorrect results announced on Sunday were unofficial and were made before the counting tally had been completed.

 

The agency was slammed harshly for the mistake. The Democrat deputy leader Satit Pitutacha wrote on Facebook: ”Please, do not make any more mistake. Your agency has already suffered a severe credibility crisis.”

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30368538

 

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[edwinchester]

Well the farce that was the last election becomes even more farcical.

Anyone with an ounce of integrity within the EC would have resigned weeks ago.

[z42]

Simply put, how can any results this election commission put out be trusted as being accurate.

The people simply won't respect the results when they're announced. The army might as well just stage the coup now.

 

It's been a ghastly attempt at conducting an election. A farce is too kind an adjective to use

[nikmar]

"This is my a**e and this is my elbow! No, wait, it's the other way 'round. No hang on........"

[Puchaiyank]

If it is incorrect a second time...then it is commonly referred to as a botched election...null and void... 

[Eligius]

This is beyond farcical.

And still the Thais take it all ....

[4MyEgo]

This election stunk from the beginning because the Junta hand picked the EC members, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more oi and will go out at all stops to try and stop the FFP from forming a government.

 

The coup won't be too far behind the King's inauguration come May me suspects.

[geoffbezoz]

1 hour ago, edwinchester said:

Well the farce that was the last election becomes even more farcical.

Anyone with an ounce of integrity within the EC would have resigned weeks ago.

No one in Thailand has any integrity whilst the baht is their master.

[Wilsonandson]

The "democrat" party won. Democracy shines in Thailand.

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[holy cow cm]

They, I mean credible group, needs to recount and check every vote again. Something may be saying that someone does not want FFP to have another big win? 4 little votes? When has anyone ever heard of a race that close, except in a one horse town. 

[greeneking]

44 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

This election stunk from the beginning because the Junta hand picked the EC members, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more oi and will go out at all stops to try and stop the FFP from forming a government.

 

The coup won't be too far behind the King's inauguration come May me suspects.

Some talk that the army may not even be selecting the 250 seat senate anymore.  Guess who knows better people for the job?

[Mavideol]

and they want the western countries to recognize their democratic elections 555 they lost any and all (if they had any left) credibility not worth the international news coverage all around the world people know unfortunately only the Thais didn't realize that

[White Christmas13]

54 minutes ago, Eligius said:

This is beyond farcical.

And still the Thais take it all ....

I guess the problem is Thai people are to busy making a living and don't follow the news as we do

yes the do get upset but don't know what to do about it if they complain it will just

end up in a civil war  

[gunderhill]

1 hour ago, nikmar said:

"This is my a**e and this is my elbow! No, wait, it's the other way 'round. No hang on........"

I think  they  have  their  head up  their  arse, I  mean  they  talk  shit  so  must  be  true.

[Mavideol]

Just now, White Christmas13 said:

I guess the problem is Thai people are to busy making a living and don't follow the news as we do

yes the do get upset but don't know what to do about it if they complain it will just

end up in a civil war  

have to agree with you, most of us are retired and have plenty of free time, on the other hand Thais area trying to make ends meet and no time or not in the mood to read/hear the news, it's always the same story just different actors (Future... & Democratic....& the junta) if the Thais start manifestations their state of mind we are going into the red VS yellow again and again, maybe not a good idea

[Oziex1]

This reminds me of the time I was paying the electric bill to my landlady in Phuket, she was diligently making the calculation on the electronic calculator when the number didn't please her, she disregarded that, brushed the device to one side and made up a number that suited her better.

[JAG]

2 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

I guess the problem is Thai people are to busy making a living and don't follow the news as we do

yes the do get upset but don't know what to do about it if they complain it will just

end up in a civil war  

The Thai people are under no illusions about what is going on, or indeed about what has been going on for the last five years. They are also under no illusions as to what would happen if they were collectively to stand up and say no. 

 

Some years ago there was a protest in my neck of the woods (Chiang Rai) about something, I think  plan to build a power plant. My wife was indignant, so I asked her why she did not go and protest. " Because they will shoot us". 

 

That is the reality - the current junta has form (2010) and the Army Commander loitering (unconcealed) in the wings speaks with great enthusiasm about such actions - known to be something of a family tradition. It has happened before. This current process will inevitably end in shooting. If the people realise they can stand up to them, and do, then probably it will all end on various lampposts on the road to the airport.

 

As I have said before there will be a catalyst which will turn the resentment into revolt. What it will be and when, we don't know; but there will be one, unless the current regime leaves power voluntarily, and let's face it, that isn't going to happen.

 

 

[londonthai]

during sunday's recounting the lights went off for 30 minutes, so another miracle for junta friends

[greeneking]

1 minute ago, JAG said:

The Thai people are under no illusions about what is going on, or indeed about what has been going on for the last five years. They are also under no illusions as to what would happen if they were collectively to stand up and say no. 

 

Some years ago there was a protest in my neck of the woods (Chiang Rai) about something, I think  plan to build a power plant. My wife was indignant, so I asked her why she did not go and protest. " Because they will shoot us". 

 

That is the reality - the current junta has form (2010) and the Army Commander loitering (unconcealed) in the wings speaks with great enthusiasm about such actions - known to be something of a family tradition. It has happened before. This current process will inevitably end in shooting. If the people realise they can stand up to them, and do, then probably it will all end on various lampposts on the road to the airport.

 

As I have said before there will be a catalyst which will turn the resentment into revolt. What it will be and when, we don't know; but there will be one, unless the current regime leaves power voluntarily, and let's face it, that isn't going to happen.

 

 

Keep up the pressure, keep it informed and mature and a move towards true democracy will be harder to resist.  Hopefully.

The International Commission of Jurists has reported recently, seeking  “the repeal or amendment of Head of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) and NCPO orders and announcements in line with Thailand’s international human rights law obligations."

They have listed the junta’s contraventions of the country’s international obligations: military involvement in civilian law enforcement, arbitrary detention and arrest, lack of judicial oversight for detainees, the inability to legally challenge detention, the use of military courts, the restriction of peaceful assembly, restrictions on the media, and the infringement of community and environmental rights.

The people trying to hold onto power they never should have had with their threats, repression and guns should be responding to these points. Every day.

[fishtank]

3 hours ago, Eligius said:

This is beyond farcical.

And still the Thais take it all ....

Not very bright are they?

[overherebc]

4 hours ago, nikmar said:

"This is my a**e and this is my elbow! No, wait, it's the other way 'round. No hang on........"

Well if your elbow smelled as bad as politics all over the world I can understand your confusion.

[Nsp64]

3 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

I guess the problem is Thai people are to busy making a living and don't follow the news as we do

yes the do get upset but don't know what to do about it if they complain it will just

end up in a civil war  

Hope so

[billd766]

1 hour ago, fishtank said:

Not very bright are they?

How smart would you be if a few people in uniform with guns turned up at your house?

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Nsp64 said:

Hope so

Will you be on the front line when people are pointing guns at you, or are you just a keyboard warrior?

[nong38]

All the rules should have been out in the open long before the election took place. It has taken over 5 weeks for a result to be changed and it seems "just like that!"

The whole process is laughable I am sure everyone who is not a voter here would think that its going to end up in stitch up and then what? Will he people accept it?

Will other countries accept the result was fair and open? How will that affect Thailand's reputation, if it still has one?

[greeneking]

3 hours ago, Bipolar said:

Sorry if I sound stupid...but who actually won now?? The democrats or fast forward, for the nakhon pathom constituency in question. Been reading in Thai Rath  etc that its fast forward.This is so bloody confusing. The whole elections should deemed null and redone. The EC is really totally incapable of running the show. Never seen so much cheating etc in my lifetime in Thailand. This must be one of the most horrible and disgraceful moments in the history of thailand. There is nothing to celebrate anymore or be happy about.

And these people wanted to hang onto power long enough to see the Coronation carried through with dignity before the International press. 

They thought only they could be the 'good' people, election result or not.

The attention that will be brought to Thailand may not be as positive as some people would like.

[DoctorG]

What is the Thai word for "manipulation"?

[yellowboat]

How does this election compare to the previous ones?  Guessing rather poorly.  Don said weeks ago rebuking the need for observers because Thailand had a history well ordered elections, though some still contradict Don and VOA saying  vote buying took place.  Now you have a government election body that cannot seem to count votes and it spends its time hassling one particular party.   Junta mania  just keeps ruining Thailand one day at a time.

[RobMuir]

14 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

I guess the problem is Thai people are to busy making a living and don't follow the news as we do

 

I am tipping the Thais get more election news than you. Do you ever look at the television. Numerous channels constantly reporting and discussing the election news. Look at the newspapers, constant coverage. It is all over Facebook as well. Thais all talking about it. 

 

Do you follow that? Can you understand Thai? 

[RobMuir]

1 hour ago, DoctorG said:

What is the Thai word for "manipulation"

 

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