36 minutes ago, tebee said:

I think you will find exactly 0 percent of remainers support her deal.

 

the wa is necessary to comply with the UK's existing treaty commitments.

 

the x word comes from her hatred of FOM and immigrants in general, she showed at the Home office - hostile environment anybody ?  

Well for a hard xenophobe she didn't seem that way as Home Secretary 2010-2016, did she?

 

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Totally incorrect. We could have left unilaterally on WTO terms on 29 March. We didn't need the EU's agreement for that, it was already in article 50. Only a deal required the EU's agreement and a deal was absolutely not a prerequisite of leaving.

 

Yes I do believe Brexit will happen. The relationship has soured so badly that there is no choice but to leave.  Even the more intelligent Remainers have finally seen how the EU cartel operates and their plans for further integration into a EU superstate complete with a European Army. If article 50 is revoked then the Brexit Party will win by a landslide at the next GE and trigger it again. It would go round in circles and the EU know it.

 

The EU are playing their final hand hoping Parliament agrees to May's treaty. That is the EU's last chance as they'd use it to lock us in via the backstop (which is why they refuse to remove it). Parliament will not agree to that surrender document and we'll leave with no deal, maybe in October, maybe 2020, maybe in 3 years. It will happen. Stamp it.  

It may yet transpire that we DID....

 

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

She was and is a remainer, who has collaborated with Merkel and the EU to produce this dubious "deal". 

Sure, it was a sinister conspiracy ????????????????

14 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Well for a hard xenophobe she didn't seem that way as Home Secretary 2010-2016, did she?

 

but they had a target of less than 100,000 - just because they are hopeless at being xenophobic doesn't make them any less xenophobic.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/08/may-buys-time-with-hints-at-new-withdrawal-bill-vote-and-exit-date

May buys time with hints at new withdrawal bill vote and exit date

PM agrees to meet 1922 Committee next week, amid pressure to reveal her departure date

Theresa May has bought herself another week’s grace as prime minister, hinting she will bring the EU withdrawal bill to parliament before the European elections and promising to meet a powerful backbench committee who have demanded that she set out her timetable for stepping down.

After a fortnight of furious demands by Tory MPs that she give a firm date for her departure, Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the 1922 Committee, said May had agreed to meet him and the 13-strong executive of Tory backbenchers next week.

He gave no indication that May intended to provide a firm departure date at the meeting, but the promise will buy the prime minister an extra week to continue cross-party Brexit talks with Labour, before the Conservatives could consider changing leadership rules to force her exit.

Brady, who has met with May twice over the past few weeks, said he was convinced she would now attempt to pass Brexit legislation as a way of ratifying the deal – though it is unclear how it could command a majority.

19 minutes ago, tebee said:

but they had a target of less than 100,000 - just because they are hopeless at being xenophobic doesn't make them any less xenophobic.

Not even just a little bit?

20 minutes ago, david555 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/08/may-buys-time-with-hints-at-new-withdrawal-bill-vote-and-exit-date

May buys time with hints at new withdrawal bill vote and exit date

PM agrees to meet 1922 Committee next week, amid pressure to reveal her departure date

Theresa May has bought herself another week’s grace as prime minister, hinting she will bring the EU withdrawal bill to parliament before the European elections and promising to meet a powerful backbench committee who have demanded that she set out her timetable for stepping down.

After a fortnight of furious demands by Tory MPs that she give a firm date for her departure, Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the 1922 Committee, said May had agreed to meet him and the 13-strong executive of Tory backbenchers next week.

He gave no indication that May intended to provide a firm departure date at the meeting, but the promise will buy the prime minister an extra week to continue cross-party Brexit talks with Labour, before the Conservatives could consider changing leadership rules to force her exit.

Brady, who has met with May twice over the past few weeks, said he was convinced she would now attempt to pass Brexit legislation as a way of ratifying the deal – though it is unclear how it could command a majority.

She's good with both feet - two cans to kick now!

23 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Sure, it was a sinister conspiracy ????????????????

Glad you can finally see the obvious ????????????????

30 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Not even just a little bit?

Well look - the only thing that TM's deal satisfies for either side is the ending of FOM.

 

Does that not suggest someting to you ?

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Totally incorrect. We could have left unilaterally on WTO terms on 29 March. We didn't need the EU's agreement for that, it was already in article 50. Only a deal required the EU's agreement and a deal was absolutely not a prerequisite of leaving.

Yes, you could have left. But you didn’t leave. You claimed the latter. That’s all I disputed. 

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes I do believe Brexit will happen. The relationship has soured so badly that there is no choice but to leave.  Even the more intelligent Remainers have finally seen how the EU cartel operates and their plans for further integration into a EU superstate complete with a European Army. If article 50 is revoked then the Brexit Party will win by a landslide at the next GE and trigger it again. It would go round in circles and the EU know it.

Wishful thinking, but I guess we will have to wait and see. 

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

The EU are playing their final hand hoping Parliament agrees to May's treaty. That is the EU's last chance as they'd use it to lock us in via the backstop (which is why they refuse to remove it). Parliament will not agree to that surrender document and we'll leave with no deal, maybe in October, maybe 2020, maybe in 3 years. It will happen. Stamp it.  

Again, wishful thinking. Parliament will never agree on a no-deal Brexit. You will never find enough people to vote in a no-deal parliament. The opposite will happen, the longer this takes, the less support there will be for Brexit. 

On 5/9/2019 at 7:12 AM, BritManToo said:

That's just not true, after Britain declared to leave, the date was set in stone, and prevarication by the PM would have forced an exit on 29th March 2019 with no further input from parliament.

 

Who authorized the triggering of Article 50?

 

May tied to get acceptance that she and her cabinet could decide everything and failed.

On 5/9/2019 at 4:41 PM, david555 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/08/may-buys-time-with-hints-at-new-withdrawal-bill-vote-and-exit-date

May buys time with hints at new withdrawal bill vote and exit date

PM agrees to meet 1922 Committee next week, amid pressure to reveal her departure date

Theresa May has bought herself another week’s grace as prime minister, hinting she will bring the EU withdrawal bill to parliament before the European elections and promising to meet a powerful backbench committee who have demanded that she set out her timetable for stepping down.

After a fortnight of furious demands by Tory MPs that she give a firm date for her departure, Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the 1922 Committee, said May had agreed to meet him and the 13-strong executive of Tory backbenchers next week.

He gave no indication that May intended to provide a firm departure date at the meeting, but the promise will buy the prime minister an extra week to continue cross-party Brexit talks with Labour, before the Conservatives could consider changing leadership rules to force her exit.

Brady, who has met with May twice over the past few weeks, said he was convinced she would now attempt to pass Brexit legislation as a way of ratifying the deal – though it is unclear how it could command a majority.

 

She's never heard the expression "flogging a dead horse"!

 

No one, Brexiters or Remainers will be happy with her deal. Politicians know this and fear the backlash if they are seen to sell out and approve it. It's crap. Stevie Wonder could see that!

 

The fact she's still trying to get it approved shows how stubborn and arrogant she is; with a total disregard for the electorate.

 

 

On 5/9/2019 at 4:33 PM, evadgib said:

It may yet transpire that we DID....

 

 

The court case is a joke.

 

But the BBC not reporting it isn't. The BBC have also deliberately ignored reporting on the many marches and motor bike rides supporting Soldier F, the armed forces and veterans and accusing this government of pandering to terrorists and political ends. Thousands and thousands have took part in these marches and protests yet little if anything reported.

 

The Tories and Labor have both too much influence on the BBC which should be independent.

10 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Who authorized the triggering of Article 50?

 

May tied to get acceptance that she and her cabinet could decide everything and failed.

Parliament.