PM fires lottery board

[Kasane]

Surely there is more to this story. 

[james.d]

2 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said:

 

The real scam is that other places can sell cheaper because they pay less. 

 

In a real country you buy the tickets as a vendor, all of them at the same price and everyone sells at the same price. Then they get a sales commission and a cut of the winnings of each ticket. 

 

So simple, so transparent.

But the whole thai lottery ticket benefits big resellers that rip off the small vendors ????

 

Get rid of the middleman. 

Very well said especially you last point.

About 15 yes ago the idea was floated to bring in lottery machines, Loxley was part of it and it could be done. 

However, the plan was quickly kicked to the kerb by whoever.

[SupermarineS6B]

Appoints brother as replacement ? 

[mtls2005]

46 minutes ago, Kasane said:

Surely there is more to this story. 

 

Not happy about paying the new increased tithe rate.

 

Someone keeps a very, very close eye on the bi-monthly bag-o-cash delivery volumes.

 

 

 

 

[johng]

39 minutes ago, james.d said:

About 15 yes ago the idea was floated to bring in lottery machines

I read that the machines where already bought and ready to roll..but the plan was scuppered before they even got anywhere near the shops.

I wonder how much of the lottery money actually goes to  "good causes" ?

 

from the UK national lottery wiki

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Of all money spent on National Lottery games, around 53% goes to the prize fund and 25% to "good causes"

so that leaves 22% 

 

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12% goes to the UK Government as lottery duty, 4% to retailers as commission, and a total of 5% to operator Camelot,^[2] with 4% to cover operating costs and 1% as profit

 

[Chrisswe]

Money money money is the........!!!!

[Briggsy]

8 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:

Well that's the end of Prayuth being the next PM then given Apirat's connections. Still all helps to get both sides of the trough antagonised possibly.

This one may have come from higher up the chain, Prayut just being the messenger boy.

[geoffbezoz]

Just now, Briggsy said:

This one may have come from higher up the chain, Prayut just being the messenger boy.

Doubt it. Think its Prayut p$ssed by the high link trying to remove the "Eastern Tigers" from the trough so removed one of their main henchmen from the benefits  tray whilst he still has the power to make it happen.

[Classic Ray]

1 hour ago, johng said:

I read that the machines where already bought and ready to roll..but the plan was scuppered before they even got anywhere near the shops.

I wonder how much of the lottery money actually goes to  "good causes" ?

 

from the UK national lottery wiki

so that leaves 22% 

 

 

Installing lottery machines à la UK Camelot immediately removes the corruption as everyone can see where the money goes. Any system like Thailand’s involving paper tickets paid for in cash leaves big holes in security.

[JAG]

40 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

This one may have come from higher up the chain, Prayut just being the messenger boy.

 

36 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

Doubt it. Think its Prayut p$ssed by the high link trying to remove the "Eastern Tigers" from the trough so removed one of their main henchmen from the benefits  tray whilst he still has the power to make it happen.

The first/warming up moves in what is going to be a very messy faction fight, I suspect.

[geoffbezoz]

6 minutes ago, JAG said:

 

The first/warming up moves in what is going to be a very messy faction fight, I suspect.

Spot on.

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

A good move by Khun Prayut Chan O Cha. He obviously see's reason to make this change.

 

 

If Prayut had a legitimate reasons, ie., legal, then why did he invoke Article 44 as NCPO Chief that bypasses all applicable laws, regulations and rules? The former of which requires no transparency while the latter requires due process of law. There is no appeal to an Article 44 Order.

It makes me wonder if Prayut will give up Article 44 power as the new PM or attempt to extend it through his new term as PM if he is elected having secured control of Parliament and a politicalized judicial system.

[TheHangingJudge]

Tell us what heinous crime they committed. 

[connda]

9 hours ago, a977 said:

Does this mean we will actually see a return to the 80thb lottery ticket instead of whatever the vendor decides to charge. Maybe it's about time the lottery was taken away from these sidewalk thieves and given to 7/11 and Family Mart stores 

Here's how that works:
Me: I'd like that ticket.
Vendor: 100 baht.
Me: 80 baht.

Vendor: 100 baht.  
Me: <walks to next vendor>
Me: I'd like that ticket.
Next Vendor: 80 baht.
Me: Thank you.

[trainman34014]

9 hours ago, Prairieboy said:

I agree fully - the hawkers on the streets and in the local markets hawking the tickets for whatever price the market will bear should be abolished.  A couple weeks ago I bought my first (and last) Thai lottery tickets - the price was clearly indicated as 80 baht yet I was forced to pay 100 baht.  What recourse is available?  My Thai wife seemed to think this is acceptable!

Your Wife is one of the reasons these thieves prosper and there are millions more like her !

[geronimo]

12 hours ago, JAG said:

He will need more than luck if he is going after Army Commander-in-Chief General Apirat Kongsompong, and some of his "fringe benefits"!

He's got that magical Article 44 wand, which tops anything the general might have!

[namatjira]

well, at least this is one general that can explain his wealth, 

Its all down to good luck he managed to win first prize 

on multiple occasions Buddha blessings and good karma..

[happy chappie]

Only last week I replied to the story and said what a rip off it was compared to other countries lottos.as usual I got a load of stick from other members.oh no it's a good lotto and fair and square.

i doubt if I'll hear from them after this news but then again they probably all won last week and moved on to Monaco with their winnings.top prize 3 million (£75,000) for 80baht (£2) where the lotto in the uk can be 1 billion baht for the same stake (£2) and all above board.its a fools game and just skimming the poor who live on the thought of being lucky.

[brianthainess]

9 hours ago, mikebell said:

bad loser!

He's such a loser !

[samsensam]

13 minutes ago, happy chappie said:

Only last week I replied to the story and said what a rip off it was compared to other countries lottos.as usual I got a load of stick from other members.oh no it's a good lotto and fair and square.

i doubt if I'll hear from them after this news but then again they probably all won last week and moved on to Monaco with their winnings.top prize 3 million (£75,000) for 80baht (£2) where the lotto in the uk can be 1 billion baht for the same stake (£2) and all above board.its a fools game and just skimming the poor who live on the thought of being lucky.

 

the uk lottery also supports charities/good causes, my village got a new village hall funded by the national lottery. not sure if the thai lottery does anything to support deserving charities/local communities?

[Seismic]

14 hours ago, Prairieboy said:

I agree fully - the hawkers on the streets and in the local markets hawking the tickets for whatever price the market will bear should be abolished.  A couple weeks ago I bought my first (and last) Thai lottery tickets - the price was clearly indicated as 80 baht yet I was forced to pay 100 baht.  What recourse is available?  My Thai wife seemed to think this is acceptable!

"Forced to pay", what did they hold a shotgun to your head ?? The obvious recourse is to simply walk away, My Thai wife would have jumped all over them !!

 

[Seismic]

4 hours ago, Benroon said:

You weren't 'forced' to pay anything ? 

 

You bought a 100 baht ticket which the vendor has to pay more for. Ask for the cheaper one though he may not have bought any.

 

An 80 baht ticket is a single ticket, giving you the opportunity to win one first prize of 6mil

 

The 100 baht tickets come from a set of identical numbersgiving you the opportunity on purchasing the book of course to win I think 4 times the jackpot so 24 mil. (and obviously 4 times the lower jackpots)

 

Leaving the question of course but what if I only buy one ticket for 100 baht I can only win 1 jackpot so why am I not paying 80 baht - this is true but you have the opportunity to buy the others AND the vendor has to pay more for them. Conspiracy No 8454 cleared up ok ?

 

Count yourself lucky I once left a restaurant, felt lucky and went up to a woman who was selling tickets and she told me she was only selling them in 2000 baht batches !!!

What utter nonsense, each single ticket is 80 baht. if you want to buy same numbers they are also 80 baht. Just because the vendors tell you that buying a book is more expensive (which has clearly been demonstrated as false and illegal), does not mean you have to be stupid enough to do it. Incidentally the rules and requirements for the Thai national lottery can be downloaded quite easily, you just need to read Thai, to know your assertions were legally wrong.

 

 

[KKr]

22 hours ago, a977 said:

Does this mean we will actually see a return to the 80thb lottery ticket instead of whatever the vendor decides to charge. Maybe it's about time the lottery was taken away from these sidewalk thieves and given to 7/11 and Family Mart stores 

if lucky numbers existed, everyone self proclaimed specialist would be rich,
instead of blabbering on the internet what tickets to buy and why.
The only methodology that makes a little bit of sense is monitoring most and least drawn numbers.

But then again, no-one forcing anyone to pay 100 B for something that costs 80 B.
and  even more so it does not make sense given the low pay out ratio. 

[pornprong]

14 hours ago, geronimo said:

He's got that magical Article 44 wand, which tops anything the general might have!

Friends in high places quite easily supersede Article 44, especially in Thailand.

[gk10002000]

In the USA, the Lottery Commission in several states is paid more than the governor of said states

[jasonbrock60]

So, we will see the result here in the nearest future, good luck to the new formation of the government. The time will tell who is who.