'Like me, a little controversial' - Trump praises Hungary's anti-immigration PM Orban

[car720]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you lived in a place ‘where killing someone is as common as picking your nose’ and didn’t have the money to afford visa etc, what would you do, stick around and be killed?

Absolutely not, but then again I would not want to take the same old, same old to the new place of respite.

[usviphotography]

Orban has certainly been one of the most successful and competent leaders of Europe, but you have to bear in mind that the second most popular party in Hungary is Jobbik. So the political pressure Orban is constantly facing is to be better on securing the borders, to be better at protecting the rights and interests of Hungarians. The primary means by which Globalists wield influence in Hungary is via foreigner billionaires trying to meddle via NGOs, which Hungary has been quite successful at clamping down on. And Hungarian is such a difficult language to learn their media is far less affecting by Globalist control of International Mass Media. 

 

This is a far cry from the dynamic in most of Western Europe, where the Globalists wield tremendous formal political power via their control of many to most political parties themselves and their stranglehold over the media. For this reason, I think what Salvini is accomplishing in Italy is far more impressive than what Orban has done in Hungary. Salvini is orchestrating a European Reconquista of the Italian State. 

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, candide said:

It's not really because of limitations to immigration, it's simply because Hungarians emigrate to other countries. 

This immigration problem in Hungary is a kind of fake news as few people want to immigrate there and the number of foreigners staying there is very low. People want to get out of this country, not get in.

Sorry, no.

Hungary’s Workers Are the Victims of a Policy That Limits Migration

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/slave-law-hungary-workers-leaving-migrants/580333/

[candide]

7 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Sorry, no.

Hungary’s Workers Are the Victims of a Policy That Limits Migration

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/slave-law-hungary-workers-leaving-migrants/580333/

Ok, I acknowledge that immigration may help compensate for the lack of workforce caused by Hungarians fleeing the country. I doubt it ranks among attractive countries for immigrants, but it's difficult to find out.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Ok, I acknowledge that immigration may help compensate for the lack of workforce caused by Hungarians fleeing the country. I doubt it ranks among attractive countries for immigrants, but it's difficult to find out.

In fact, Hungary would be very attractive for workers outside the EU.

 

"Other countries have turned to immigration to address labor shortages. In fact, Hungary is not alone among Central European countries in facing such a problem. Poland, like Hungary, has vocally opposed the EU’s migrant quotas, for example, yet it has brought in thousands of Ukrainian workers fleeing that country’s conflict. And still, Mateusz Morawiecki, Poland’s prime minister, suggested in July that he would consider relaxing the country’s opposition to immigration, telling reporters, “If there is a demand on the labor market which Poles are unable or unwilling to meet, we need to take up the challenge so that we maintain our economic growth.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/slave-law-hungary-workers-leaving-migrants/580333/

 

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[candide]

58 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

In fact, Hungary would be very attractive for workers outside the EU.

 

"Other countries have turned to immigration to address labor shortages. In fact, Hungary is not alone among Central European countries in facing such a problem. Poland, like Hungary, has vocally opposed the EU’s migrant quotas, for example, yet it has brought in thousands of Ukrainian workers fleeing that country’s conflict. And still, Mateusz Morawiecki, Poland’s prime minister, suggested in July that he would consider relaxing the country’s opposition to immigration, telling reporters, “If there is a demand on the labor market which Poles are unable or unwilling to meet, we need to take up the challenge so that we maintain our economic growth.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/slave-law-hungary-workers-leaving-migrants/580333/

 

Well it's better than nothing, but still not very attractive, compared to Germany, for example, according to this article.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/reporters-notebook/migrants/hungary-treatment-refugees

 

The case of Poland and Ukraine is quite specific, as there are strong historical relationships between them,  and part of the Ukrainian population actually speak Polish as a first language.

[jm91]

20 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Lets see an example of Trump hating immigrants or being a supporter of the fabled white supremacists. Racism, hate and now white supremacy is just fear mongering aimed at black voters by the democrats as without their votes they would be sunk for good. All the violence in the USA seems to come from people like Antifa and deranged Trump haters, they even have to make up fake race attacks like Smollet.

No the reality is there is a significant rise in hate crimes post trump. The right loves to tacitly support hate speech then claim ignorance of the effects of that speech.  Right wing nut cases are the cause of most hate crimes in the USA and trump and his supporters aide that.