Video Motorbike riders injured in Chiang Mai underpass

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Motorbike riders injured in Chiang Mai underpass – VIDEO

By The Thaiger

PHOTOS: Chiang Mai Traffic Police

 

 

Many motorbike passengers and drivers have been injured as they headed down and stopped inside the Fa Harm Underpass in Chiang Mai yesterday.

 

Chiang Mai News reports that the accident happened at 6pm last night inside the Fa Harm Underpass on Super Highway Road, northbound.

 

Police and emergency responders arrived at the scene to find many damaged motorbikes and five injured people. They were taken to nearby hospitals.

 

The motorbikes headed into the underpass, using the underpass as shelter from the heavy rain. A pickup truck, also travelling in the underpass, swiped some of the motorbikes and knocked the drivers onto the road, injuring five.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Source: https://thethaiger.com/news/chiang-mai/motorbike-riders-injured-in-chiang-mai-underpass-video

 

 

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[cranki]

Root cause appears to be lack of drainage.

[RotMahKid]

5 minutes ago, cranki said:

Root cause appears to be lack of drainage.

and the main reason, bad driving! Never heard of aquaplaning?!

[Old Croc]

Bad drainage creating surface water, typical too fast driving for the conditions resulting in aquaplaning and loss of control, and riders using the underpass as a rain shelter by parking illegally in a traffic lane at a place where they are most in danger. 

Just another day in paradise.

[cranki]

13 minutes ago, RotMahKid said:

and the main reason, bad driving! Never heard of aquaplaning?!

You do understand what a root cause is right ?

[samsensam]

9 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Bad drainage creating surface water, typical too fast driving for the conditions resulting in aquaplaning and loss of control, and riders using the underpass as a rain shelter by parking illegally in a traffic lane at a place where they are most in danger. 

Just another day in paradise.

 

yup, that about sums it up, except to say that will anyone, individual or authorities, learn from this and do anything to prevent similar accidents? no.

[Seismic]

28 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Bad drainage creating surface water, typical too fast driving for the conditions resulting in aquaplaning and loss of control, and riders using the underpass as a rain shelter by parking illegally in a traffic lane at a place where they are most in danger. 

Just another day in paradise.

Not actually parked in a traffic lane, but an emergency lane. However, not sure most know the difference ????

 

[Seismic]

26 minutes ago, cranki said:

You do understand what a root cause is right ?

A root cause is an initiating cause of either a condition or a causal chain that leads to an outcome or effect of interest. The term denotes the earliest, most basic, 'deepest', cause for a given behavior; most often a fault.

You could argue that the root cause is bad driving - Speeding while not understanding aquaplaning.

[richard_smith237]

24 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

The exact cause of this accident is a bad choice by young people with no brain function. You do not use an underpass as a rain shelther. Final.

 

When it rains like that and there is no alternative it can only be expected that the Underpass is used as shelter for motorcyclists.

It was raining so poorly the other day in Bangkok that the right hand lane of Sukhumvit road in Bangkok was taken over by motorcycles which had stopped to avoid the torrential rain. 

 

Poor drainage is a part cause in accidents which involve aquaplaning, speed is another. Given the heavy rain its quite obvious when looking at the video that the pickup is being driven by a complete and total tool who is driving too fast and undertaking everyone...

.....of course the truck aquaplanes, it was being driven too fast. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, cranki said:

Root cause appears to be lack of drainage.

Root cause appears to be bald tyres as nobody else has problems driving or braking.

[sweatalot]

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Root cause appears to be bald tyres as nobody else has problems driving or braking.

no, it's aquaplaning

do you think anyone Thai driver ever understood of even heard about aquaplanign? 

and they don't reduce speed when it's raining

 

btw did you see other vehicles swerve and have accidents - without braking before? Watch the video to the end

Edited June 14, 2019 by sweatalot

[BritManToo]

41 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

There is always an alternative to making a stupid decision. It´s called the right decision.

In this case, it´s rainy season- Be prepared and have rianclothes in the motorbike. If you need to stop, do that at an open area where it´s easy to see you. Do not park a motorbike in the spillover lane.

Actually advice in most of the world in cases of torrential rain/sleet/snow/fog where you can't see, is to pull over and stop. It's one of the normal uses of emergency lanes.

 

There's really no way to avoid a nutjob driving a car, except to not be in front of him.

Edited June 14, 2019 by BritManToo

[monkeycu]

2 hours ago, Matzzon said:

The exact cause of this accident is a bad choice by young people with no brain function. You do not use an underpass as a rain shelther. Final.

Sounds good, now go and tell all the slow learning bike riders

And good luck with that, you just cant fix Stupid

 

[cranki]

2 hours ago, Seismic said:

A root cause is an initiating cause of either a condition or a causal chain that leads to an outcome or effect of interest. The term denotes the earliest, most basic, 'deepest', cause for a given behavior; most often a fault.

You could argue that the root cause is bad driving - Speeding while not understanding aquaplaning.

Excellent....so we agree that poor drainage is the root cause here ???? that led to the driver aquaplaning.

 

[sherwood]

This place is just full of smart people. The think tank of the world. 555

It was raining cats and dogs and some fella in a pickup fcukedup, wake up. Struth.

 

Glad it was not me.55

[OttoPollmann]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Actually advice in most of the world in cases of torrential rain/sleet/snow/fog where you can't see, is to pull over and stop. It's one of the normal uses of emergency lanes.

 

There's really no way to avoid a nutjob driving a car, except to not be in front of him.

this is not correct. in civilized countries this hard shoulder is only to use in an emergency. Rain or getting wet is not an emergency that is a case of not using adequate clothing. in a real emergency situation if you need to use this hard shoulder, you have to install a warning traiangle in a distance of minimum 150m behind the breakdown vehicle. besides that, you have to inform immediately the police and leave the vehicle to get shelter on a safe place. for exemple behind a crash barrier or in a tunnel use of a safety bay or leave in direction of the emergency exit and keep your vehicle behind.
Furthermore, if your breakdown is to blame on an empty petrol tank you will face a hefty fine.

[Samuel Smith]

1 minute ago, OttoPollmann said:

this is not correct. in civilized countries this hard shoulder is only to use in an emergency. Rain or getting wet is not an emergency that is a case of not using adequate clothing. in a real emergency situation if you need to use this hard shoulder, you have to install a warning traiangle in a distance of minimum 150m behind the breakdown vehicle. besides that, you have to inform immediately the police and leave the vehicle to get shelter on a safe place. for exemple behind a crash barrier or in a tunnel use of a safety bay or leave in direction of the emergency exit and keep your vehicle behind.
Furthermore, if your breakdown is to blame on an empty petrol tank you will face a hefty fine.

Yep,  a warning triangle would've done the job ???? 

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, OttoPollmann said:

Rain or getting wet is not an emergency that is a case of not using adequate clothing. in a real emergency situation if you need to use this hard shoulder, you have to install a warning traiangle in a distance of minimum 150m behind the breakdown vehicle.

Ridiculous,

I've driven in Florida in rain so heavy you can't see the front of the car bonnet.

[hmficc]

I feel the pain of all expats stuck in this awful, lawless land. No one sets out to enter the trade of prostitution. It’s is where you end up when you plans go wrong- much like living in LOS.

[OttoPollmann]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Ridiculous,

I've driven in Florida in rain so heavy you can't see the front of the car bonnet.

interesting and then?
you have stopped on the middle of the highway or given any warning to the following traffic that you will reduce speed or park?
in this video the visibility for a rainy day is quiet good. is it permitted for motorcycles to use the underpass in Chiang Mai? I'm just curious because in other cities they are not allow to use those.
don't understand me wrong, I'm not defending the behaviour of the pickup driver. he was not driving according to the weather condition. but it would be only a property damage if the motorcycles had not parked in the tunnel.
furthermore, in countries with much lower accident rates you must have and wear a high visibilty vest in case of an accident or if you ride a motorcycle.

[worgeordie]

The pickup driver must be driving on slick tyres!,he started

 skidding before entering the tunnel,driving too fast for the

 conditions,bald tyres....what could go wrong,and it did,

 lucky no one killed.

 regards Worgeordie

 

[bristolgeoff]

Motorbikes looking for cover because of rain.big truck driving thru tunnel.does not mix with rain.accident and damage who do u blame

Edited June 15, 2019 by bristolgeoff

[legend49]

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Root cause appears to be bald tyres as nobody else has problems driving or braking.

Oh dear someone needs to some research. Root cause never uses subjective words such as "appears".

[JaiLai]

16 hours ago, cranki said:

Root cause appears to be lack of drainage.

Lack of brain.

[thaimelody]

16 hours ago, cranki said:

Root cause appears to be lack of drainage.

Wouldn't the root cause be rain rather than the lack of drainage? Without the said precipitation, the lack of drainage would not be problematic. I guess root causes are often contentious.  

[thaimelody]

40 minutes ago, legend49 said:

Oh dear someone needs to some research. Root cause never uses subjective words such as "appears".

Would have to disagree. Root cause on many issues is subjective but quite often the dominant discourse conquers. Furthermore, root clause analysis suggest an infinite chain of events. You are right on "the need to some research (sic)"

Edited June 15, 2019 by thaimelody
added depth

[connda]

16 hours ago, cranki said:

Root cause appears to be lack of drainage.

Root cause appears to be lack of brainage while driving faster than conditions warrant.
  

The moron who hydroplaned was driving in typical aggressive Thai manner and passing vehicles who are rightfully slowed via the right handed "slow" lane because, as usual, he was in too damned of a hurry to get wherever it is that highly aggressive Thai drivers need to get to quick-quick!  

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, OttoPollmann said:

you have stopped on the middle of the highway or given any warning to the following traffic that you will reduce speed or park?

Which part of "pull over and stop" didn't you understand?

If your English skills are so poor, maybe you shouldn't post.

Edited June 15, 2019 by BritManToo

[BritManToo]

50 minutes ago, legend49 said:

Oh dear someone needs to some research. Root cause never uses subjective words such as "appears".

Oh dear, another on ignore.

[cranki]

10 minutes ago, connda said:

Root cause appears to be lack of brainage while driving faster than conditions warrant.
  

The moron who hydroplaned was driving in typical aggressive Thai manner and passing vehicles who are rightfully slowed via the right handed "slow" lane because, as usual, he was in too damned of a hurry to get wherever it is that highly aggressive Thai drivers need to get to quick-quick!  

Focus on HOW and WHY something happened, not WHO was responsible.....this is one of the core principles of a an RCA (root cause analysis)

 

Same "moron" driving the same car at the same speed in "typical aggressive Thai manner" in the same lane in the dry....what happens ??