Labour-supporting Momentum launches campaign to oust PM frontrunner Johnson

[snoop1130]

Labour-supporting Momentum launches campaign to oust PM frontrunner Johnson

 

Boris Johnson, a leadership candidate for Britain's Conservative Party, attends a hustings event in Manchester, Britain, June 29, 2019. REUTERS/Andrew Yates

 

LONDON (Reuters) - A group set up to support British opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, has launched a campaign to try to oust Boris Johnson, the frontrunner to become the next prime minister, from his parliamentary seat, it said on Monday.

 

Momentum, created just weeks after Corbyn’s surprise appointment as leader of the Labour Party in 2015, said it would send hundreds of their supporters to Johnson’s electoral district in west London later this month to “unseat” him.

 

Johnson holds a small majority in his constituency of just 5,034 votes, making him vulnerable to other parties keen to unseat him in a new national election, which, while not being due until 2022, might be held earlier to try to break the deadlock over Britain’s departure from the European Union.

 

“Now we’re launching a campaign to make sure Johnson goes down in history as the first sitting prime minister to lose his seat,” said Becky Boumelha, a member of Momentum’s National Coordinating Group.

 

“At the last election we slashed his majority in half, and now even Tories (Conservatives) admit his seat is vulnerable to a surge in young voters at the next election.”

 

Johnson is the favourite to become Britain’s next prime minister and is expected to win a leadership election triggered when Theresa May announced she would step down after failing to get her Brexit deal through parliament.

 

The former London mayor and foreign minister has won over many Conservatives by promising to leave the EU at the new deadline of Oct. 31, with or without a deal — something that Labour says would hurt the economy and end in job losses.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-01

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[jesimps]

Democracy in the UK seems to be under threat as never before. It's no longer the left who seem unable to accept the will of the people, now you have the "remainers" thrown into the mix. Johnson will be elected leader (probably) in a democratic process under the Tory party rules, but Labour's Momentum want to interfere in that now. Brexit's at the bottom of it of course, the left and remainers are determined to stop it despite it being the will of the people. I think Momentum would be advised to think again, because if they get Johnson out and manage to force an election, there's a good chance that there'd be a backlash against the left and the Brexit Party would walk in. I'm grateful for the straightforward politics of Thailand!

[sammieuk1]

Momentum Corbyn he even speaks at 1mph these days ????

[dick dasterdly]

Political games at their worst, and most obvious. ☹️

[blazes]

Rumour has it that Jezza is in poor health, even had a stroke.  Frail of body now, on top of being frail of mind.  (Though apparently he has been performing well on the horizontal all these years, including with the lovely sweet and svelte Diane Abbott.)

[Black arab]

Gammons out in force today.

[dick dasterdly]

10 minutes ago, Black arab said:

Gammons out in force today.

I've no idea as to the meaning of "gammons" as I can't be bothered to look up insults - but it's always interesting to know that remainers support political games at their worst, and most obvious ☹️.

[fishtank]

Anything that can get this clown Johnson out of parliament (let alone PM) is most welcome.

We are the laughing stock of Europe.

[blazes]

18 minutes ago, Black arab said:

Gammons out in force today.

Trannies too, it would seem.

 

And if Dear Diane Abbott were a white old male, would she/he also be a gammon?  Or do you have to be a male only to qualify?

[Basil B]

4 hours ago, jesimps said:

Democracy in the UK seems to be under threat as never before. It's no longer the left who seem unable to accept the will of the people, now you have the "remainers" thrown into the mix. Johnson will be elected leader (probably) in a democratic process under the Tory party rules, but Labour's Momentum want to interfere in that now. Brexit's at the bottom of it of course, the left and remainers are determined to stop it despite it being the will of the people. I think Momentum would be advised to think again, because if they get Johnson out and manage to force an election, there's a good chance that there'd be a backlash against the left and the Brexit Party would walk in. I'm grateful for the straightforward politics of Thailand!

Targeting seats is nothing new...

 

As they say the bigger they are the harder they fall.

[Basil B]

4 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Political games at their worst, and most obvious. ☹️

Political parties bussing in the troops is older than prostitution, or would have been if they had busses then.

 

Writing lies on the busses is something new though...

Edited July 2, 2019 by Basil B

[dick dasterdly]

I'm going to leave remainers to continue to support these political games.....☹️

 

Have to say though that I'm more than suprised that the politicians would be so obvious!

Edited July 2, 2019 by dick dasterdly

[Basil B]

38 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I'm going to leave remainers to continue to support these political games.....☹️

 

Have to say though that I'm more than suprised that the politicians would be so obvious!

Remainers stoop low to join Brexiteers...

 

If you can not beat them join them. ????????

Edited July 2, 2019 by Basil B

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, fishtank said:

Anything that can get this clown Johnson out of parliament (let alone PM) is most welcome.

We are the laughing stock of Europe.

Entirely wrong. Many Europeans support the Leave movement in Britain, whoever is leading it. You need to get out more.

[Baerboxer]

14 hours ago, jesimps said:

Democracy in the UK seems to be under threat as never before. It's no longer the left who seem unable to accept the will of the people, now you have the "remainers" thrown into the mix. Johnson will be elected leader (probably) in a democratic process under the Tory party rules, but Labour's Momentum want to interfere in that now. Brexit's at the bottom of it of course, the left and remainers are determined to stop it despite it being the will of the people. I think Momentum would be advised to think again, because if they get Johnson out and manage to force an election, there's a good chance that there'd be a backlash against the left and the Brexit Party would walk in. I'm grateful for the straightforward politics of Thailand!

 

Momentum are far far nastier than the old Militant Tendency. Make no mistake or underestimate them. They don't want to remain in the EU. They are the minions of Corbyn and his Corbynistas. They target the politically naive young who believe the clap-trap visions of a socialist society. Free this and fee that, peaceful politically correct paradise for all. If that lot ever got in power, with a majority government, gawd help the UK. Nationalized industries, planned economies, government bureaucracy running wild and interfering with everything, even more politicized police and justice system - and all funded by punitive taxation. Labor Momentum wants to spend your money as they wish whilst telling you what you can and can't do, say and think. Like Corbyn their leader, they are anti EU. But they dare not go for a no deal Brexit clean break. Remember this is the party that tried to silence adverse publicity around the Pakistan/Bangladeshi grooming / rape gangs in the interests of diversity. 

 

Will of the people - what a load of cobblers! A small majority in an advisory referendum in which a large number never voted. Hardly decisive. And the constant carping on about "will of the people" sounds as sincere as when Sturgeon prattles on about the Scottish people have spoken!

[Baerboxer]

6 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Entirely wrong. Many Europeans support the Leave movement in Britain, whoever is leading it. You need to get out more.

 

Do you have research to support that assertion?

[7by7]

I see that certain Brexiteers wish to remove the tradition as old as Parliament of targeting marginal seats in a general election. A practice carried out by all parties. The same Brexiteers who regularly accuse others of being undemocratic!

 

I have no time for Momentum; as another poster said they are the old Militant Tendency with a new name. But if they wish to target the marginal Uxbridge and South Ruislip seat in the next general election, that is their democratic right.

 

Interestingly, the seat was created by boundary changes and was first contested in 2010. It was a safe Conservative seat, but since Johnson changed his mind and declared himself in favour of Brexit, the Conservative majority there fell dramatically in 2017.

 

2010; John Randell, majority 11216.

2015; EU supporting Boris Johnson, majority 10,695.

2017; Brexit supporting Boris Johnson, majority 5034.

(Source)

 

Most of the votes lost by Boris have gone to Labour, who have always come second; but I don't see the good people of Uxbridge and Ruislip falling for the ultra left antics of Momentum. At least, I hope not.

 

If Labour want to win this seat, they need to field a centre left candidate.

[evadgib]

3 hours ago, 7by7 said:

I see that certain Brexiteers wish to remove the tradition as old as Parliament of targeting marginal seats in a general election. A practice carried out by all parties. The same Brexiteers who regularly accuse others of being undemocratic!

 

I have no time for Momentum; as another poster said they are the old Militant Tendency with a new name. But if they wish to target the marginal Uxbridge and South Ruislip seat in the next general election, that is their democratic right.

 

Interestingly, the seat was created by boundary changes and was first contested in 2010. It was a safe Conservative seat, but since Johnson changed his mind and declared himself in favour of Brexit, the Conservative majority there fell dramatically in 2017.

 

2010; John Randell, majority 11216.

2015; EU supporting Boris Johnson, majority 10,695.

2017; Brexit supporting Boris Johnson, majority 5034.

(Source)

 

Most of the votes lost by Boris have gone to Labour, who have always come second; but I don't see the good people of Uxbridge and Ruislip falling for the ultra left antics of Momentum. At least, I hope not.

 

If Labour want to win this seat, they need to field a centre left candidate.

By the time Farages revolution has concluded UK can expect:

- PR to have replaced FPTP

- Votes for life based on NI numbers regardless of geographic location

- The ability to vote online via a secure Govt gateway.

- The end of 2 party politics

- Two NEW Parliaments; One to replace the crumbling palace of Westminster & the other for the English who as yet do not have their own despite Scotland/Wales/NI having theirs for 20 years.

 

Anne Widdecombe yesterday:

 

[7by7]

By the time Farage's 'revolution' has concluded he will be a footnote in the UK's political history, touting his memoirs on any talk show desperate enough to have him.

 

21 hours ago, evadgib said:

PR to have replaced FPTP

What form of PR? There are many different ones.

 

Also, if you look at those countries which have PR in one form or another, in many governments are repeatedly falling as coalitions crumble. FPTP is by no means perfect, bjt in my opinion, it's better than any of the alternatives.

 

20 hours ago, evadgib said:

Votes for life based on NI numbers regardless of geographic location

Anyone, regardless of nationality, who legally works in the UK has a NI number.

 

Once issued, NI numbers are for life; even if the holder is a foreign national who worked in the UK but has since returned home.

 

Giving the right to vote based on having an NI number regardless of geographical location, coupled with 

20 hours ago, evadgib said:

The ability to vote online via a secure Govt gateway.

means that not only will foreign nationals resident in the UK be able to vote in UK elections, those who once worked here and have since returned home will be able to do so as well!

 

Surprised that you and Fargae are in favour of that!

 

20 hours ago, evadgib said:

The end of 2 party politics

We don't have two party politics in this country. If we did, we wouldn't have situations like the 2010 General election and the 2017 one where no one party has a majority so need to seek a coalition.

 

20 hours ago, evadgib said:

Two NEW Parliaments; One to replace the crumbling palace of Westminster & the other for the English who as yet do not have their own despite Scotland/Wales/NI having theirs for 20 years.

So move the national Parliament out of the Palace of Westminster? Where to? 

 

We English in opinion polls have time after time showed that we do not want yet another tier of politicians getting fat on our taxes.

 

 

 

 

[evadgib]

3 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

By the time Farage's 'revolution' has concluded he will be a footnote in the UK's political history, touting his memoirs on any talk show desperate enough to have him.

 

What form of PR? There are many different ones.

 

Also, if you look at those countries which have PR in one form or another, in many governments are repeatedly falling as coalitions crumble. FPTP is by no means perfect, bjt in my opinion, it's better than any of the alternatives.

 

Anyone, regardless of nationality, who legally works in the UK has a NI number.

 

Once issued, NI numbers are for life; even if the holder is a foreign national who worked in the UK but has since returned home.

 

Giving the right to vote based on having an NI number regardless of geographical location, coupled with 

means that not only will foreign nationals resident in the UK be able to vote in UK elections, those who once worked here and have since returned home will be able to do so as well!

 

Surprised that you and Fargae are in favour of that!

 

We don't have two party politics in this country. If we did, we wouldn't have situations like the 2010 General election and the 2017 one where no one party has a majority so need to seek a coalition.

 

So move the national Parliament out of the Palace of Westminster? Where to? 

 

We English in opinion polls have time after time showed that we do not want yet another tier of politicians getting fat on our taxes.

You nonetheless get my drift ????

[7by7]

11 minutes ago, evadgib said:

You nonetheless get my drift ????

No; which is why I asked you questions; which like Widdicombe in the video you posted, like your hero does constantly; you have ignored.

 

No surprise there.

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 7/2/2019 at 7:52 AM, jesimps said:

Democracy in the UK seems to be under threat as never before.

What on earth are you wittering on about? We are talking about the entirely democratic process of defeating a parliamentary candidate at a general election.  As the article points out, Johnson's "seat is vulnerable to a surge in young voters at the next election."

 

As another poster already pointed out, targeting marginal seats at a general election is both exceedingly common and totally democratic.

[evadgib]

14 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

No; which is why I asked you questions; which like Widdicombe in the video you posted, like your hero does constantly; you have ignored.

 

No surprise there.

I answered in a manner I saw fit.

[7by7]

9 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I answered in a manner I saw fit.

You obviously think your responses are somehow indicative of your intellectual superiority; and doubtless your cronies concur.

 

The rest of us can see the truth; you cannot give straight answers to straight questions because you have none.

 

Now, can we get back on topic; which is the possible targeting of Johnson's seat by far left radicals at the next general election; not Farage's wet dreams!

Edited July 4, 2019 by 7by7

[thequietman]

On 7/2/2019 at 7:52 AM, jesimps said:

I'm grateful for the straightforward politics of Thailand!

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[evadgib]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

You obviously think your responses are somehow indicative of your intellectual superiority; and doubtless your cronies concur.

 

The rest of us can see the truth; you cannot give straight answers to straight questions because you have none.

 

Now, can we get back on topic; which is the possible targeting of Johnson's seat by far left radicals at the next general election; not Farage's wet dreams!

Your failure to understand replies or earlier posts containing the very detail you claim to be waiting for renders this latest rant obsolete.

[7by7]

On 7/4/2019 at 8:56 AM, evadgib said:

Your failure to understand replies or earlier posts containing the very detail you claim to be waiting for renders this latest rant obsolete.

As you yet again refuse to answer straight questions about your off topic posts about Farage, let alone actually post on topic, I see no point in responding here to you further unless you do.