German migrant rescue ship captain moved to secret location after threats

[snoop1130]

German migrant rescue ship captain moved to secret location after threats

 

FILE PHOTO: Carola Rackete, the 31-year-old Sea-Watch 3 captain, disembarks from a Finance police boat and is escorted to a car, in Porto Empedocle, Italy July 1, 2019. REUTERS/Guglielmo Mangiapane/File Photo

 

BERLIN (Reuters) - The German captain of a rescue charity ship who angered Italy’s interior minister by bringing African migrants to an Italian island has received threats and been moved to a secret location, the charity she works for said.

 

An Italian judge on Tuesday ordered 31-year-old Carola Rackete released from house arrest where she had been held since Saturday, when she disobeyed Italian military orders and entered the port of Lampedusa.

 

Rackete had faced up to 10 years in prison on possible charges of endangering the lives of four policemen for hitting a patrol boat at the quay as she brought around 40 African migrants to land in the Sea-Watch vessel.

 

“There were some general threats against Carola,” a spokesman for Sea-Watch, a German charity, said on Wednesday. “That’s why we moved her to a secret place. We will not comment on any further travel plans of her,” he added, speaking English.

 

In a statement released by the charity, Rackete called the decision by Judge Alessandra Vella “a great victory of solidarity towards all migrants, against the criminalization of those who want to help them.”

 

Vella ruled that the captain had not broken the law by crashing through a naval blockade, saying that by bringing rescued migrants to port she was carrying out her duty to protect life.

 

Far-right Interior Minister Matteo Salvini said he was “disgusted” by the ruling. His League party last month introduced rules effectively closing Italy’s ports to rescue ships, threatening transgressors with fines of up to 50,000 euros ($56,500) and the impounding of their vessels.

 

The controversy over Rackete’s actions has dented relations between Italy on one side and Germany and France on the other, and highlighted Europe’s continued failure to adopt a coherent strategy on immigration.

 

Rackete appeared before a court in Agrigento on Monday and apologized for hitting the patrol boat, saying it had been an accident and that her sole concern was the well-being of the migrants who had been at sea for more than two weeks.

 

The captain, who sports long, distinctive dreadlocks, has become a heroine to human rights campaigners.

 

An online campaign to help her launched by two German TV stars has so far raised close to 1 million euros, while a separate fundraiser launched on Facebook by an Italian group collected 435,000 euros in seven days.

 

“I am moved by the solidarity of so many people,” Rackete said in her statement.

 

Sea-Watch said the money would be used to fund future rescue missions.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-03

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[PJPom]

I think it was a reasonable decision in the circumstances however the large sum of money raised should be given to those rescued. That would mean that they were quite wealthy and couldn’t claim benefits from the host country.

See how long they stay when it runs out.

[Brigand]

I think people should follow the bloody law and stop thinking they are somehow special and that the rules don't apply to them for some reason. Toss them all in jail for their arrogance and entitlement because they want some Internet attention ... well, guess what, the law applies to you too. Morons!

[simple1]

8 hours ago, Brigand said:

I think people should follow the bloody law and stop thinking they are somehow special and that the rules don't apply to them for some reason. Toss them all in jail for their arrogance and entitlement because they want some Internet attention ... well, guess what, the law applies to you too. Morons!

Read the OP. An Italian Court has ruled her actions as legal, though as per usual an authoritarian politician has attacked the Rule of Law.

 

"Vella ruled that the captain had not broken the law by crashing through a naval blockade, saying that by bringing rescued migrants to port she was carrying out her duty to protect life"

[Tug]

I would love to buy her a beer kudos captain for saving life and standing up to the ones who would let them drown kudos 

[JAG]

If she has been cleared by the court of breaking the law, why then was she not returned to her ship, where she could be protected if threats were made) instead of being held at a secret location?

 

Does Italy have a process of "Habeus Corpus" where such detention can be challenged?

[simple1]

17 minutes ago, JAG said:

If she has been cleared by the court of breaking the law, why then was she not returned to her ship, where she could be protected if threats were made) instead of being held at a secret location?

 

Does Italy have a process of "Habeus Corpus" where such detention can be challenged?

Good question. Let's see if the responsible Far Right Minister (attacked the Court and said the ruling was 'disgusting') will appeal (remind you of anyone?).

[Ozman52]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Read the OP. An Italian Court has ruled her actions as legal, though as per usual an authoritarian politician has attacked the Rule of Law.

 

"Vella ruled that the captain had not broken the law by crashing through a naval blockade, saying that by bringing rescued migrants to port she was carrying out her duty to protect life"

That was based on the BS claim that after 17 days on a ship, fed and sheltered from the elements, the illegal immigrants were suicidal. That may have some credibility if one of them had actually committed suicide instead of making the blame shifting claims of suicidal intent common with their ilk. It was simply a ploy to enable her to force entry to the port and achieve her initial intention, to facilitate the transport of illegal immigrants to Europe.

 

It is obvious to all concerned, though some won't admit it, that the flood of "refugees" to Europe and  US is just a scam for enrichment of the claimants. Italy is starting to take steps, Oz has already begun to refuse to accept asylum claims from obvious fraudsters.

 

BTW how many container and oil ships carry suicide counsellors? How did Columbus ever get to America?

Edited July 4, 2019 by Ozman52

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Ozman52 said:

That was based on the BS claim that after 17 days on a ship, fed and sheltered from the elements, the illegal immigrants were suicidal. That may have some credibility if one of them had actually committed suicide instead of making the blame shifting claims of suicidal intent common with their ilk. It was simply a ploy to enable her to force entry to the port and achieve her initial intention, to facilitate the transport of illegal immigrants to Europe.<SNIP>

I suggest to you the Court had a better grasp of facts and relevant Rule of Law than you.

[Ozman52]

17 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I suggest to you the Court had a better grasp of facts and relevant Rule of Law than you.

Has it escaped you that the "Far Right Minister" is a member of the Italian government that writes the laws of Italy? Will you still be spouting Rule of Law after it is changed to prevent economic migrants posing as refugees being granted entry?

 

BTW how do you feel about Malaysians being denied the right to claim asylum on arrival in Australia? Do you support the action or prefer scam artists to be allowed to take advantage of our laws?

Edited July 4, 2019 by Ozman52

[Ulic]

She is a people smuggler. Send her to jail. The only reason these migrants or put into inflatable dinghies and rickety boats is there are people like her to "rescue" them. The migrants are not offloaded into these boats until contact with a "rescue" boat has been made and a "rescue" co-ordinated.  

[Ozman52]

3 hours ago, JAG said:

If she has been cleared by the court of breaking the law, why then was she not returned to her ship, where she could be protected if threats were made) instead of being held at a secret location?

 

Does Italy have a process of "Habeus Corpus" where such detention can be challenged?

Doh! she was deported from Italy to Germany. The ship has been seized by the Italians, it is still in the Italian port. Her "charity" moved her to a secret location after alleged threats.

Edited July 4, 2019 by Ozman52

[norfolkc]

What right does she have to force these people on a country is she a God who is above the law she was released by a liberal Italian judge who himself should be jailed with her father is some German millionaire once again some poor little rich kid playing at being God if the Italians do not want these people in their country it their right to refuse them it is their country not some do-gooder charity causing havoc in Europe 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Ozman52 said:

Has it escaped you that the "Far Right Minister" is a member of the Italian government that writes the laws of Italy? Will you still be spouting Rule of Law after it is changed to prevent economic migrants posing as refugees being granted entry?

 

BTW how do you feel about Malaysians being denied the right to claim asylum on arrival in Australia? Do you support the action or prefer scam artists to be allowed to take advantage of our laws?

We will see if the Minister manages to get passed laws that are contrary to Human Rights, may be similar to his fellow traveller, Orban. Do I support authoritarian regimes, all of whom also suppress freedom of speech / media / opposition, mostly very corrupt etc etc. Some people are fine with foregoing behaviour so long as they stop asylum seekers entering their countries - not me.

 

Yep some Malaysians are being denied entry on arrival due to large increase of scamming the visa system. organised crime also involved. Interesting to note many have been trafficked to work on Australian owned farms, managed by brokers - so Australians also involved.  In my area quite a few backpackers doing seasonal work, also being ripped off by White Australian nationals breaking our laws.

 

 

Edited July 4, 2019 by simple1

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, Ozman52 said:

Has it escaped you that the "Far Right Minister" is a member of the Italian government that writes the laws of Italy? Will you still be spouting Rule of Law after it is changed to prevent economic migrants posing as refugees being granted entry?

 

BTW how do you feel about Malaysians being denied the right to claim asylum on arrival in Australia? Do you support the action or prefer scam artists to be allowed to take advantage of our laws?

"Do you support the action or prefer scam artists to be allowed to take advantage of our laws?"

 

Again - a good point that makes the problem clear IMO.  How do we help genuine asylum seekers, without also allowing the majority (who I think we all agree are economic migrants?) to take advantage?

[simple1]

6 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

<SNIP> How do we help genuine asylum seekers, without also allowing the majority (who I think we all agree are economic migrants?) to take advantage?

Did you know there are currently approx 68 million plus refugees (including IDPs) worldwide, but approx only 190,00 p.a. worldwide are resettled. According huge numbers wait many, many years in refugee camps, temporary housing, most not permitted to work, minimal education for children and medical care. 

 

Many countries involved with destroying infrastructure during wars have flatly refused to fund reconstruction efforts. Accordingly big delays with repatriating refugees. e.g. Pakistan where some refugees have been staying in camps for twenty years or so. No wonder the younger hit the road seeking a better life. Get countries set up with being directly engaging with reconstruction, rather than monies feed to corrupt governments. Increase funding / resourcing for asylum seeker processing by Signatories to UN Convention for Refugees. increase resettlement places for genuine and security vetted asylum seekers etc etc etc

 

 

[Ozman52]

34 minutes ago, simple1 said:

We will see if the Minister manages to get passed laws that are contrary to Human Rights, may be similar to his fellow traveller, Orban. Do I support authoritarian regimes, all of whom also suppress freedom of speech / media / opposition, mostly very corrupt etc etc. Some people are fine with foregoing behaviour so long as they stop asylum seekers entering their countries - not me.

 

Yep some Malaysians are being denied entry on arrival due to large increase of scamming the visa system. organised crime also involved. Interesting to note many have been trafficked to work on Australian owned farms, managed by brokers - so Australians also involved.  In my area quite a few backpackers doing seasonal work, also being ripped off by White Australian nationals breaking our laws.

 

 

"... laws that are contrary to Human Rights....."  that would prevent economic migrants posing as refugees being granted entry, is followed by baseless claim of authoritarian regime and  "suppress freedom of speech / media / opposition".

Are we talking about Italy, which I suggested may pass these laws, or Oz which is actively preventing economic migrant criminals from scamming our country? Are you really saying criminals should be able to scam us because it is their "human right"? 

[Ozman52]

7 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Did you know there are currently approx 68 million plus refugees (including IDPs) worldwide, but approx only 190,00 p.a. worldwide are resettled. According huge numbers wait many, many years in refugee camps, temporary housing, most not permitted to work, minimal education for children and medical care. 

 

Many countries involved with destroying infrastructure during wars have flatly refused to fund reconstruction efforts. Accordingly big delays with repatriating refugees. e.g. Pakistan where some refugees have been staying in camps for twenty years or so. No wonder the younger hit the road seeking a better life. Get countries set up with being directly engaging with reconstruction, rather than monies feed to corrupt governments. Increase funding / resourcing for asylum seeker processing by Signatories to UN Convention for Refugees. increase resettlement places for genuine and security vetted asylum seekers etc etc etc

 

 

Actually there are 68 million people claiming to be refugees, the vast majority of which are economic migrants. Let's just hope they don't all descend on Australia, where according to you, denying them entry would be denying their "human rights".

[dick dasterdly]

41 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

"Do you support the action or prefer scam artists to be allowed to take advantage of our laws?"

 

Again - a good point that makes the problem clear IMO.  How do we help genuine asylum seekers, without also allowing the majority (who I think we all agree are economic migrants?) to take advantage?

 

13 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Did you know there are currently approx 68 million plus refugees (including IDPs) worldwide, but approx only 190,00 p.a. worldwide are resettled. According huge numbers wait many, many years in refugee camps, temporary housing, most not permitted to work, minimal education for children and medical care. 

 

Many countries involved with destroying infrastructure during wars have flatly refused to fund reconstruction efforts. Accordingly big delays with repatriating refugees. e.g. Pakistan where some refugees have been staying in camps for twenty years or so. No wonder the younger hit the road seeking a better life. Get countries set up with being directly engaging with reconstruction, rather than monies feed to corrupt governments. Increase funding / resourcing for asylum seeker processing by Signatories to UN Convention for Refugees. increase resettlement places for genuine and security vetted asylum seekers etc etc etc

 

 

Re. your first para.- No, I didn't know there were that many refugees, but expect that quite a large number of these are actually economic migrants.  It would be interesting to know the number of IDPs - i.e. the ,majority of whom will be genuinely deserving of asylum status, until they can be repatriated?

 

Is there any way to differentiate between genuine asylum seekers and economic migrants?

 

"Many countries involved with destroying infrastructure during wars have flatly refused to fund reconstruction efforts."

 

Agree to a certain extent.  It's embarrassing the way 'victor' countries too frequently pretty much only support (vastly over-expensive) re-construction from companies based in their own country ☹️.

[simple1]

16 minutes ago, Ozman52 said:

Actually there are 68 million people claiming to be refugees, the vast majority of which are economic migrants. <SNIP>

Following are the official figures. Let's read your refute based upon empirical data.

 

https://www.unhcr.org/en-au/figures-at-a-glance.html

[simple1]

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

Is there any way to differentiate between genuine asylum seekers and economic migrants?

Yes. Assessment of status by UNHCR or trained staff from a country which has signed & ratified UN Convention for Refugees, as well as having enacted the relevant legal processes for meeting the criteria as a "Safe Country" for asylum seekers.

[xylophone]

52 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Again - a good point that makes the problem clear IMO.  How do we help genuine asylum seekers, without also allowing the majority (who I think we all agree are economic migrants?) to take advantage?

In my opinion you have hit the nail on the head with this post, because I, like you, agree that we should try to help genuine asylum seekers who are looking for a way out of their area/country because of war, persecution and suchlike.

 

The vast majority of these so-called "asylum seekers" are indeed economic migrants and are seeking a move to another country where they will be better off, quite probably because they can live on benefits, but at what cost? 

 

The cost is usually to the country into which they are accepted, with many not wanting to work and some not able to, and most of them surviving on handouts without giving anything back to the country into which they have migrated.

 

I applaud the move by Australia, by which they have basically said they would welcome migration if the would-be migrants apply through the normal channels, and if they are skilful enough to be able to add something to Australia's economy. If not, then they are illegal and should not be accepted under any circumstances.

 

By not controlling the situation, the countries can end up with crime ridden ghettos and an increase in the nonworking population who live on handouts and benefits, which of course affects the well-being of the country itself and its bona fide citizens.

[dick dasterdly]

25 minutes ago, Ozman52 said:

"... laws that are contrary to Human Rights....."  that would prevent economic migrants posing as refugees being granted entry, is followed by baseless claim of authoritarian regime and  "suppress freedom of speech / media / opposition".

Are we talking about Italy, which I suggested may pass these laws, or Oz which is actively preventing economic migrant criminals from scamming our country? Are you really saying criminals should be able to scam us because it is their "human right"? 

"... laws that are contrary to Human Rights....."  that would prevent economic migrants posing as refugees being granted entry"

 

Exactly.  This argument of 'human rights' (even when it's being mis-used by the majority) rhetoric is understandably resulting in a backlash.

 

Which is why it's so necessary for countries to start afresh - and set up a quick system to differentiate between the obvious economic migrants, and the likely genuine asylum seekers.

[Ozman52]

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Following are the official figures. Let's read your refute based upon empirical data.

 

https://www.unhcr.org/en-au/figures-at-a-glance.html

What's to refute except your BS numbers. The vast majority are in their own country, most of the rest are in neighbouring countries.

That doesn't alter the perception that most of those "seeking asylum" are actually seeking to improve their lifestyle.

[dick dasterdly]

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Yes. Assessment of status by UNHCR or trained staff from a country which has signed & ratified UN Convention for Refugees, as well as having enacted the relevant legal processes for meeting the criteria as a "Safe Country" for asylum seekers.

An extremely long-winded process that certainly benefits lawyers and economic migrants...

[simple1]

38 minutes ago, Ozman52 said:

Are we talking about Italy, which I suggested may pass these laws

Up in the air as the Far Right in Italy do not have full access to power. However, Far Right political parties are seeking to dominate the EU, albeit so far in the minority. However, Italian Far Right leaders do admire the likes of Orban who is already implementing authoritarian policies contrary to the Constitution, deeply corrupt and so on

[simple1]

11 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

An extremely long-winded process that certainly benefits lawyers and economic migrants...

So how would you go about the assessment process that would stand up to appeal in a Court?

[simple1]

16 minutes ago, Ozman52 said:

What's to refute except your BS numbers. The vast majority are in their own country, most of the rest are in neighbouring countries.

That doesn't alter the perception that most of those "seeking asylum" are actually seeking to improve their lifestyle.

IDPs are refugees, asylum seekers are waiting for assessment and so on. I did say for you to refute based upon empirical data, so stop with the hyperbole.

Edited July 4, 2019 by simple1

[Ozman52]

10 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Up in the air as the Far Right in Italy do not have full access to power. However, Far Right political parties are seeking to dominate the EU, albeit so far in the minority. However, Italian Far Right leaders do admire the likes of Orban who is already implementing authoritarian policies contrary to the Constitution, deeply corrupt and so on

You continue to dodge the question - is Australia wrong for preventing Malaysians from claiming asylum as part of a known scam? 

 

And that is the same scam being perpetrated in almost every developed country, people falsely claiming refugee status to gain entry, knowing that removing them is difficult if not impossible.

[Isaanbiker]

Rackete had faced up to 10 years in prison on possible charges of endangering the lives of four policemen for hitting a patrol boat at the quay as she brought around 40 African migrants to land in the Sea-Watch vessel.

 

She really deserves the name "rocket". How many of them will finally make it to Germany, Frau Rocket? 

 

 

The "Wir schaffen das" ( we make it) bs by Merkel has somehow disappeared. 

Edited July 4, 2019 by Isaanbiker