webfact Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Janitor commits suicide at Phitsanulok school By The Nation The janitor of a school in Phitsanulok’s Prom Phiram district was found hanged at his residence in the school Wednesday evening, police said. A student spotted the body of Thongluang Od-ake, 41, hanging from the window of his residence and alerted teachers. The student had gone to the janitor’s living quarters to ask for the key to a locked room. She at first thought he was trying to climb through the window and called him but he did not answer. When the student looked closely, she saw the janitor’s neck was surrounded by a rope tied to the window’s beam. Rescuers and a doctor were called, with the latter determining that he had died about two hours earlier. The body was sent to the Buddhachinaraj Hospital for autopsy. A suicide note was found in the room, saying: “Sister, I am sorry. Please take care of my children.” His older sister told police that her brother was under a great deal of stress having been accused of raping a 14-year-old girl. He had divorced his wife with whom he had two children, the sister added. Source: http://www.nationthailand.com/news/30372258 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-07-04 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info If you or anyone you know is in emotional distress, please contact the Samaritans of Thailand 24-hour hotline: 02 713 6791 (English), 02 713 6793 (Thai) or the Thai Mental Health Hotline at 1323 (Thai). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, webfact said: accused of raping a 14-year-old girl. ... and continuing to live and work in a school full of 14 year olds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 "If" those allegations were true he did the world a favor ! "If" those allegations were false, whoever made them should be strung up! sad that a student should discover the body like that ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 If true the school director wants strung up, allowing a man accused of raping a 14 year old, to live/ work at the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, colinneil said: If true the school director wants strung up, allowing a man accused of raping a 14 year old, to live/ work at the school. The accusation could have been made last week ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, sanemax said: The accusation could have been made last week ? Even if the accusation was made yesterday, he should have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, colinneil said: Even if the accusation was made yesterday, he should have been removed. Absolutely. Protecting kids against those who would abuse them should be of paramount importance. He should have been suspended from work immediately the accusation came to light. Whether he was guilty or not isn't something any of us can truly know, but the suspicion alone should have been enough to have him moved during the investigation and trial proceedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, colinneil said: Even if the accusation was made yesterday, he should have been removed. And if pupils knew they could get any staff removed from school the very next day just by making a false accusation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycu Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, sanemax said: And if pupils knew they could get any staff removed from school the very next day just by making a false accusation ? So leaving the accused in his position is a good idea? Stand him down till the evidence shows different Just like in the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, Happy Grumpy said: ... and continuing to live and work in a school full of 14 year olds? Well it is Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, monkeycu said: So leaving the accused in his position is a good idea? Stand him down till the evidence shows different Just like in the real world Its not possibly to find evidence of something not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Absolutely. Protecting kids against those who would abuse them should be of paramount importance. He should have been suspended from work immediately the accusation came to light. Whether he was guilty or not isn't something any of us can truly know, but the suspicion alone should have been enough to have him moved during the investigation and trial proceedings. You're operating from the notion that Thai schools take such accusations seriously, and actually take disciplinary action/punishment against school employees found to have engaged in such conduct. When in fact, based on a lot of past cases, the opposite often seems to be the case here. Schools don't take such accusations seriously, often stand behind the accused and against the student victims, and often end up either doing nothing with the accused employee or perhaps at most transferring them to another school. Now that I think about it, kinda like the same thing that typically ends up happening in police misconduct cases... So there seems to be a pattern here in that regard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Not saying if the allegation is true or false .... however, one doesn't end it all if one is completely innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Grumpy said: ... and continuing to live and work in a school full of 14 year olds? He hadn't been found guilty, why shouldn't he have kept his job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, colinneil said: If true the school director wants strung up, allowing a man accused of raping a 14 year old, to live/ work at the school. A man who was, at that stage, innocent, having not been found guilty of anything. Great idea, vilify the man unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, sanemax said: Innocent people dont kill themselves though (after being falsely accused ) Don't they? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, colinneil said: Even if the accusation was made yesterday, he should have been removed. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I'm not trying to take sides now if it was good, or not that he took his own life. We don't know if the rape is true, or not. The country's suicide rate's alarmingly high. I do not directly say that it's got something to do with the current government. Here's the translation of a German magazine's article from today: Every year, 4,000 people commit suicide and that 53,000 Thais are trying to commit suicide shows how well the people of Thailand really feel. BANGKOK: 53,000 Thais try to commit suicide each year - an average of six per hour, and 4,000 are able to commit suicide. Kiattiphum Wongrajit, Director-General of the Department of Mental Illness, says the suicide rate is four times higher in men than in women. The most vulnerable groups are men aged 35 and 36, and the most common age group for women with suicidal thoughts is 50 to 54 years old. According to Dr. Kiattiphum puts mental disorders such as depression, failed relationships and substance abuse high on the list of known causes that cause people to take their own lives. Source: https://der-farang.com/de/pages/jedes-jahr-begehen-4-000-menschen-selbstmord ( magazine for German speaking tourists/expats in Pattaya) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: You're operating from the notion that Thai schools take such accusations seriously, and actually take disciplinary action/punishment against school employees found to have engaged in such conduct. When in fact, based on a lot of past cases, the opposite often seems to be the case here. Schools don't take such accusations seriously, often stand behind the accused and against the student victims, and often end up either doing nothing with the accused employee or perhaps at most transferring them to another school. Now that I think about it, kinda like the same thing that typically ends up happening in police misconduct cases... So there seems to be a pattern here in that regard! You're so right, and schools don't want to lose face. An English foreign teacher from India had sexually abused an at that time 11-year-old girl, and when he got caught the SECOND TIME on a school's bathroom, he'd only lost his job. I had to write the dismissal letter and was hoping for the involvement of the cops, but the superiors were not interested in doing anything. Neither the cops were informed, nor the parents of the girl. The same guy then opened an orphanage in a bigger city in lower Isaan. I went to friends from the Tourist Police but none of them was interested either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Check out the chick taking photos, sheer class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 hours ago, monkeycu said: So you think all kids will lie to get teachers or cleaners removed from a school Are you working in a school? Some of them probably would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 RIP mate ???? Hope the child and teacher have been given some damn good care and counselling, ... and I don't mean a visit to the local monk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Guilty conscience? anyway to do that in such a place. Sad for the kids that might have seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Guilty conscience? anyway to do that in such a place. Sad for the kids that might have seen that. Most probably became aware that the authorities were involved and that he was facing a long jail sentence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 hours ago, colinneil said: If true the school director wants strung up, allowing a man accused of raping a 14 year old, to live/ work at the school. tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swbaggies Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 7 hours ago, sanemax said: Innocent people dont kill themselves though (after being falsely accused ) You could argue that a false accusation is actually more troubling for an innocent party than a guilty one. A guilty person knows they did the deed and may accept their fate. An innocent not only has to potentially prove their innocence but also live under a cloud of no smoke without fire fir the rest of their life. Ps I am not suggesting that he should not have been removed until investigated just replying to your comment about the innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Just Weird said: Don't they? Really? rational thinking people who are not on drugs don't take their own lives if they are innocent of an alleged crime. To think otherwise is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 9 hours ago, monkeycu said: Maybe you are paranoid some kid will drop you in the <deleted> for something you did or did not do Anyway it is best to remove a person accused of a crime from the scene until the truth comes out It's for his own benefit too, for lets say he was innocent but her relatives decided to take action, it's just better all around for the suspect to leave the work place, especially this workplace, when it comes to crimes against children. I imagine if a rape kit was done they'll have the proof one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 According to a news source, the mother of a Mattayom (High School) student , second year, had gone to work abroad and when she returned she found contraceptive pills in her daughter's bag. When questioned, her daughter said she had been sexually assaulted by the janitor many times. The mother thus told the authorities. Someone who knew this then told the janitor he would be facing serious charges because the girl was only 14, and he would be jailed for several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, bannork said: According to a news source, the mother of a Mattayom (High School) student , second year, had gone to work abroad and when she returned she found contraceptive pills in her daughter's bag. When questioned, her daughter said she had been sexually assaulted by the janitor many times. The mother thus told the authorities. So the girl's response to alleged repeated sexual assaults is to go out and buy and start taking contraceptive pills (which I can't find fault with under the circumstances), but not to report the assaults to the police, anyone in authority or even her own family? The latter part is hard to understand.... And beyond that, it's kind of curious how one lone school girl, in the middle of a school surrounded by teachers and fellow students, would somehow end up being alone and in a circumstance where she could be assaulted by the scumbag... Unless he was coming to her home or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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