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Climate records fall as Europe bakes in heatwave

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5 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

 

Government subsidies, certainly.

 

But the leader of the global climate movement, Greta Thunberg, has spent the last 7 months haranguing the UN, business leaders, the Pope and the UK political class about how little they have done, and how their failure is upsetting her.

 

She says: 

 

"If you still say that we are wasting valuable lesson time, then let me remind you our political leaders have wasted decades through denial and inaction”

 

“Since our leaders are behaving like children, we will have to take the responsibility they should have taken long ago.”

 

“You say you love your children above all else and yet you are stealing their future in front of their very eyes.”

Another deflection. You claimed that governments have accomplished so little. There is now a thriving renewables industry that beats coal massively on price and is on the verge of doing the same to natural gas. And all you can do is cite Greta Thunberg. Sad.

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On 7/26/2019 at 1:37 PM, BritManToo said:

There is definite evidence that the Romans grew grapes in the UK, Iron age villages being built on higher ground, and Vikings farming in Greenland, all which lead people to believe it was warmer in the past.

That the Romans grew grapes is often quoted. What isn't is that there were vineyards in England in Norman times, over a hundred vineyards in Henry VIII's day (after the little ice age had been going for about a hundred years), and some were still around in the 17th Century at the height of the little ice age. In fact, English wine growing basically ended in the 19th century due to the excise duty on wine being scrapped - no longer economic. The few that were left went under the plough in the first world war.

 

Sometimes people forget that climate is not the only reason for change. By the way, I am a firm believer in climate change - and man has possibly been responsible for a lot of it in the last 2000 years due to grazing, deforestation, disease and war. Both warming and cooling.

I'm in Norway on extended holiday, not so warm here , but around 26 Celsius today. Which is normal summer temperatures in the southern part.

People in the local media are still talking about climate change , then next week it will get down to 16 degrees and the crisis is over. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, balo said:

I'm in Norway on extended holiday, not so warm here , but around 26 Celsius today. Which is normal summer temperatures in the southern part.

People in the local media are still talking about climate change , then next week it will get down to 16 degrees and the crisis is over. 

 

 

As some economic analyses point out, in the Northern hemisphere from Denmark on up, climate change will actually be economically beneficial. South of Denmark to the equator, the opposite.

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