'Collaborators' are undermining Britain's Brexit bet, PM says

[CharlieH]

Reported baiting and some bickering posts removed.

 

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[bannork]

57 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

It's all very well to leave - but as I've repeated ad nauseum on here -<deleted> happens next? Has anyone a master plan? Why is a no-deal contrived by Johnson so brilliant?  

 

You think the EU would go away - that the UK doesn't want or need a trade deal with them?  For pete's sake wake up and face reality.

 

Leaving is the first step towards UK economic disaster which would take decades of a non-tory government to make amends for the Brexit catastrophe.  

 

 

rThere is a glimmer of hope actually even if Boris prorogued Parliament, (he's definitely pro-rogues but that's another matter).

If Boris is overthrown in a vote of no confidence or in a general election, any future government could vote to repeal Article 50 and Brexit retrospectively. It's been done before.

 

[tebee]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

rThere is a glimmer of hope actually even if Boris prorogued Parliament, (he's definitely pro-rogues but that's another matter).

If Boris is overthrown in a vote of no confidence or in a general election, any future government could vote to repeal Article 50 and Brexit retrospectively. It's been done before.

 

That doesn't actually work - it's a myth on a par with Gatt art 24 

 

 

[kingdong]

21 hours ago, baboon said:

It might or might not have been a different story if something which happened had not happened. I see.

And what does the German State Pension circa 2019 have to do with it?

read your post,you said it did germany a favour[national socialism] i agreed with you and quoted the pensions in germany as an example,while british state pensioners live in poverty.

[kingdong]

6 hours ago, stephenterry said:

It's all very well to leave - but as I've repeated ad nauseum on here -<deleted> happens next? Has anyone a master plan? Why is a no-deal contrived by Johnson so brilliant?  

 

You think the EU would go away - that the UK doesn't want or need a trade deal with them?  For pete's sake wake up and face reality.

 

Leaving is the first step towards UK economic disaster which would take decades of a non-tory government to make amends for the Brexit catastrophe.  

 

 

forget brexit for one minute,have you looked at the levels of debt?italy owes more than 2 TRILLION euros,suppose if we stay in they,ll expect us help bail them out,lets face it europes a failed experement,and i liken the uk to a rat on a sinking ship,THEY GET OFF IT, theres an almighty banking crash in the post coming to a town near you,so you,ll have that to blame on brexit very shortly,still the bands presently still playing so keep dancing.

[kingdong]

On 8/17/2019 at 1:52 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Let alone the question, do Labour voters who backed Leave support this hard right wing Tory Government and the ‘Tory’ ideas of what constitutes Brexit?

perhaps they do perhaps they don,t,can,t be more accurate than that as i haven,t asked them,suppose you have.still they worked out how damaging the 3 card trick of the eu was to THEM,AND VOTED ACCORDINGLY.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

forget brexit for one minute,have you looked at the levels of debt?italy owes more than 2 TRILLION euros,suppose if we stay in they,ll expect us help bail them out,lets face it europes a failed experement,and i liken the uk to a rat on a sinking ship,THEY GET OFF IT, theres an almighty banking crash in the post coming to a town near you,so you,ll have that to blame on brexit very shortly,still the bands presently still playing so keep dancing.

Nonsense. The Eurozone members briefly attempted exactly that during the onset of the great recession/depression. But since the UK is not amember of the Eurozone that attempt failed.

[baboon]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

read your post,you said it did germany a favour[national socialism] i agreed with you and quoted the pensions in germany as an example,while british state pensioners live in poverty.

Funnily enough, I was being sarcastic.

[billd766]

On 8/15/2019 at 7:49 AM, tomacht8 said:

This is new to me, that there was a binding referendum for a no deal brexit.

 

But this discussion has already been done too well.

 

A further referendum with clearer mandate formulation should then be carried out.

I agree with you.

 

However to clarify that it should not happen until perhaps 3 years after we Brexit.

[vogie]

16 minutes ago, Orange sky said:

Why after Brexit? Why after all the damage to international relationship has been done?

 

Why not to be proactive and solve the really major issues, before those issues become really major issues?

 

One can perhaps salvage a boat once it has sunk, but the prefered option should always be to prevent it happening at the first place. 

 

 

Why after Brexit? Why after all the damage to international relationship has been done?

There will be no damage to international relationships, we will still carry on trading, but standing to attention to 'Ode to Joy' will not be mandatory.

 

Why not to be proactive and solve the really major issues, before those issues become really major issues?

The UK has tried but the EU refuse to listen, now the UK has become proactive and has decided enough is enough.

 

One can perhaps salvage a boat once it has sunk, but the prefered option should always be to prevent it happening at the first place. 

If you are referring to the EU as a Destroyer I totally agree with you.

 

In like a bullet with your first post, looking forward to hearing more from you.

 

 

 

 

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Orange sky said:

I refer to UK's no-deal brexit plan. Europe is a rather well build continent which stays at it is and does not sink.

 

Self destruction, implosion of UK is not beneficial for anyone in EU. You were liked and important stoppers for us all. It's unfortunate that you no longer are. We'll manage, like you'll do as well.

The UKs no deal Brexit plan is the making of the EU, someone as intelligent as you must know that we have two options if we want to honour the democratic referendum decision, and those two options are 1. Leave with a deal or 2. Leave with no deal. Option 1 is out of our hands, we are reliant on the EU to negotiate a satisfactory deal with ourselves, they seem very unwilling to talk in any constructive type of manner, so option 2 is the only available choice left. 

I would love to hear from yourself what other options Boris has.

 

[3NUMBAS]

did we ask adolph for his permission when UK left the 1000 year reich? so uk doesnt need to ask her merkins permissions to leave their new reich

[beautifulthailand99]

8 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

did we ask adolph for his permission when UK left the 1000 year reich? so uk doesnt need to ask her merkins permissions to leave their new reich

At least Vogie makes sense. Your avatar Mr Numbas is pretty telling unless you are a clever Remainiac troll masquerading as a Leaver to discredit the cause. If so very clever indeed. I wish I had thought of that. ????????????

[beautifulthailand99]

I'll have a go. 

 

When will you REMAONNERS just get it WE ARE LEAVING on October 31st. Get over it - the britsih peeple have spoken and we hasve had enuf, innit. I don't mind the fit bird immigarnts - they can stay but the rest - eres the door sling it. 

 

 

(then don't forget your shouty meme)

 

 

 

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

Seriously all these new members are nothing to do with me as welcome as they are. This is the most significant political event to happen in my lifetime so it's not surprising that some new members want to get it off their chest and get involved. No new Leavers I notice ?  Yer know whadda mean ?

 

Alright I'll come clean I have been recruited by George Soros to bring on trolls to help flood internet board with positive remain messages. I am being paid in bitcoin and each recruit gets a proportion of that. It is an affiliate model so if they recruit then the same deal applies. Do you want an invite code - but there is checking of messages and quality constraints. So you can't just post mindless drivel. We have crib sheets with daily lines to take as well. Tis just what the russian trolls did during the campaign but this time it's for Remain. 

[kingdong]

11 hours ago, baboon said:

Funnily enough, I was being sarcastic.

pity uk pensioners don,t share your sense of humour.

[kingdong]

11 hours ago, baboon said:

Funnily enough, I was being sarcastic.

pity uk pensioners don,t share your sense of humour.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, kingdong said:

pity uk pensioners don,t share your sense of humour.

Those who retired in Thailand living on their UK Pensions paid in Sterling are struggling to find something to laugh about.

[kingdong]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Those who retired in Thailand living on their UK Pensions paid in Sterling are struggling to find something to laugh about.

would appear the remainers who have caused this scenario by trying to sabotage article 50 couldn,t give a tinkers cuss about brit ex pat pensioners

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, kingdong said:

would appear the remainers who have caused this scenario by trying to sabotage article 50 couldn,t give a tinkers cuss about brit ex pat pensioners

It's always  somebody else's fault. 

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It's always  somebody else's fault. 

Whoa, never saw that one coming.

[Jip99]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Whoa, never saw that one coming.

 

 

I think he cut & pasted it...............

[MRToMRT]

One reads all the posts in this thread and realizes the fact that the British Parliament is a den of opinionated, rude, overbearing, self serving, intolerant, blinkered, one-sided egos is because that's what the Brits are. On both sides of the Brexit fence.

And I am a Brit! 

[Jip99]

2 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

One reads all the posts in this thread and realizes the fact that the British Parliament is a den of opinionated, rude, overbearing, self serving, intolerant, blinkered, one-sided egos is because that's what the Brits are. On both sides of the Brexit fence.

And I am a Brit! 

 

 

 

You don't speak for me.

 

 

 

EVER........

[MRToMRT]

2 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

You don't speak for me.

I know but that's because you are French. 

[evadgib]

46 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It's always  somebody else's fault. 

Anyone with an eye on the pension thread realizes moves are afoot to correct the plight of Brits in the RotW & that will likely be BJ's 'fault' ????

[evadgib]

23 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

One reads all the posts in this thread and realizes the fact that the British Parliament is a den of opinionated, rude, overbearing, self serving, intolerant, blinkered, one-sided egos is because that's what the Brits are. On both sides of the Brexit fence.

And I am a Brit! 

I'm struggling to find a category in which to accurately place the Mogg ???? 

[roobaa01]

the no brexit deal would also mean imo  an end to the merkel junta in germany as thousands of jobs are at stake .

wbr

roobaa01

[bannork]

17 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

the no brexit deal would also mean imo  an end to the merkel junta in germany as thousands of jobs are at stake .

wbr

roobaa01

They'll blame Brexiteers, and quite rightly.

[Chomper Higgot]

39 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Anyone with an eye on the pension thread realizes moves are afoot to correct the plight of Brits in the RotW & that will likely be BJ's 'fault' ????

I missed that, do you have a link?

 

 

(Thanks in advance for an example of why I think it a bad idea to put people we generally disagree with on ignore).