France's Macron tells Johnson: not enough time for a new Brexit deal

[dick dasterdly]

37 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Not according to the BBC or some French newspapers.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49440952

 

But Sky News political correspondent Tom Rayner offered a different perspective on the incident, saying it was part of a good-humoured exchange.

Image Copyright @RaynerSkyNews@RAYNERSKYNEWS
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French media have made light of the incident, too.

"No, Boris Johnson did not insult France by putting his foot on the table in front of Emmanuel Macron," was the headline on a story by Le Parisien newspaper, which then outlines the light-hearted exchange between the two.

"Internet is quick to react - and sometimes overreact," it added.

The websites of the weekly L'Obs and FranceInfo radio similarly saw the funny side of the episode.

This has already been established - but of course some people are determined to use any excuse to vilify those they dislike ☹️.

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your life long friend isn’t telling you the truth.

 

The million plus people who recently protested in London against Brexit ought to have raised a question over your life long friend’s claim of ‘everyone want’s this over and done with’.

 

Perhaps they do, or perhaps you heard what you wanted to hear.

 

’Over and done with’ very logically includes, dumped.

 

Best wishes to your life long friend for a wonderful time in Thailand, s/he’ll undoubtedly notice the exchange rate, I hope it doesn’t dampen the fun.

"The million plus people who recently protested in London against Brexit"

 

Really??? ????

 

Edit - Please try to exaggerate sensibly ????.

Edited August 23, 2019 by dick dasterdly

[Ketyo]

This no-deal Brexit is going to be entertaining ...   its going to be a lot of fun to watch...

Edited August 23, 2019 by Ketyo

[dick dasterdly]

5 minutes ago, rhyddid said:

Now it Macron that made BS BJ place the foot there ? 
Brexit minds do not know what else excuse to find to support such man.

The true is that from the 31st October we will be in hands of such man who does not even how to seat properly, image how he will manage UK   !
 

Yet another non-brit that is determined to use any silly excuse to support their view....

 

Please read back, and understand how this 'photo became top news for remainers - despite the true story as to how it happened...

[dick dasterdly]

32 minutes ago, Ketyo said:

This no-deal Brexit is going to be entertaining ...   its going to be a lot of fun to watch...

I'd bet money that it won't happen - and I also wouldn't find the aftermath entertaining....

[sawadee1947]

16 hours ago, Topdoc said:

As much as I admire Europe, the EU remains an undemocratic, corrupt and sclerotic cancer that in any self-aware person would be cut out and incinerated. The UK does not need a deal with the EU. It certainly does not need the toxic WA.

Hahaha if this is your description of Europe which you have been a constructive part in over centuries then all the attributes are meant for UK as well, a country in agony waiting for Armageddon. ????????????

[evadgib]

7 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Hahaha if this is your description of Europe which you have been a constructive part in over centuries then all the attributes are meant for UK as well, a country in agony waiting for Armageddon. ????????????

We're staying in Europe Seamus ???? It's only the EU we're giving the heave-ho!

[dunroaming]

6 hours ago, Victornoir said:

At least he's funny. Note that Macron laughs well too.

Boris is funny and very personable too.  But in the way the pub joker is, nobody takes him seriously.  Macron is sticking to the line he has always had and even Merkel is backing away from her earlier comments.  You would certainly invite Boris to the drinks party but never trust him to actually pour the drinks.

 

 

[robertson468]

6 hours ago, david555 said:

So …. it was Macron who trick him in to it....? Making Boris ridiculous…. well what a bad French President ….lol...

What an irrational person you are.  It was two men joking together............what's wrong with that?  You sound like the press who so often blow innocent incidents completely out of proportion.  How sad.

[Rimmer]

A Nationality troll post has been removed

[dunroaming]

41 minutes ago, <deleted> dasterdly said:

Good grief!  Yet another non-brit EU poster, and not from Ireland as the poster pretends!

 

To be fair, I fully support other EU members posting their views - but think that they should state that they are from other EU countries.

Everyone is allowed an equal voice over Brexit, just like everything else.  Especially if they are EU members who have as much invested in this as any Brit.  But I do agree that their input would carry more weight if they were more open as to their origin.  Not essential of course, but makes it easier to respond.

[Blue Muton]

17 hours ago, Topdoc said:

As much as I admire Europe, the EU remains an undemocratic, corrupt and sclerotic cancer that in any self-aware person would be cut out and incinerated. The UK does not need a deal with the EU. It certainly does not need the toxic WA.

Never mind the self-aware, anybody "aware" of anything about the EU knows that all laws are passed by the democraticaly elected European Parliament.

 

Language such as yours is smply part of the decades old "Project Fear" pushed by those members of MSM, The Sun, The Mail, The Express etc.

 

Perhaps you could share with us just one EU law that has not been arrived at democratically?

 

Perhaps, rather than blustering rhetoric, you could share just one example of how an EU law has caused you pain?

[Thaifriends]

There is obligation of Euro60 billion for UK to pay and get the f..... out of the EU. The circus is all about cheating on this obligatory payment and Irish border. Blondie is not that smart to get an amicable both side win win deal.

 

Brit are likely to be surviving on fish and chips ????

[Nigel Garvie]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Liar who’s lies and being caught out lying are a matter of public record says he’s not a liar.

 

Learn from the past.

 

As somebody with a close up

personal view of a lying and philandering politician once said.

 

’Well he would say that, wouldn’t he’.

 

 

Thank you. My day has been made better by imagining what a "Close up and personal view" of Mandy Rice Davies, back in the day, would be, Michael Portillo doesn't bear thinking about! My parents named their dog Mandy in her honour.

[ThaiBunny]

Just now, Nigel Garvie said:

Thank you. My day has been made better by imagining what a "Close up and personal view" of Mandy Rice Davies, back in the day, would be, Michael Portillo doesn't bear thinking about! My parents named their dog Mandy in her honour.

Our family had a dinghy named "Sabrina" in honour of a generous endowment

[nauseus]

6 minutes ago, Blue Muton said:

Never mind the self-aware, anybody "aware" of anything about the EU knows that all laws are passed by the democraticaly elected European Parliament.

 

Language such as yours is smply part of the decades old "Project Fear" pushed by those members of MSM, The Sun, The Mail, The Express etc.

 

Perhaps you could share with us just one EU law that has not been arrived at democratically?

 

Perhaps, rather than blustering rhetoric, you could share just one example of how an EU law has caused you pain?

If you have witnessed the orange juice factory democracy of the European Parliament in action, you will know how laws are "passed". It's a total joke.

 

"Project Fear" is owned and practiced by remainers. You can keep that tag.

 

EU law is all arrived at democratically but only via the EU's interpretation of that word, "democratic". Several laws from treaties and other directives and regulations are not good for the UK or many British people. You can start with the CFP, CAP and EU forced minimums on VAT rates. 

 

But the important thing that few discuss here is The Lisbon Treaty, which will have full effect from next year and has changes in a number of policy regimes from ones that need unanimity (possible single state veto rejection), to even more qualified majority voting (QMV), which will mean more chance of the UK having to accept laws that are not in the national interest.

 

The Lisbon Treaty, along with the Maastricht Treaty, should have both been approved by referenda, with possible EU exit points for the UK, in or before both 1992 and 2007. Blair blathered on about one before Brown put his scrawl onto the Lisbon Treaty - but no referendum in advance, of course!

 

The Lisbon Treaty should be better examined by everyone. 

[puipuitom]

18 hours ago, bristolboy said:

After all, the UK doesn't need needs unimpeded supply chains and unhindered access to European financial markets.

Even for all their waste... they can dump it in the north of England instead of to export it to the EU for recycling and for the rest: burn it into energy.

[transam]

2 hours ago, rhyddid said:

Now it Macron that made BS BJ place the foot there ? 
Brexit minds do not know what else excuse to find to support such man.

The true is that from the 31st October we will be in hands of such man who does not even how to seat properly, image how he will manage UK   !
 

But better written English than you I wager.....

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, bannork said:

Johnson behaving like the lout he is.

With this showing, he has manners of an Eton boy = the world is mine, even inside your house...

Try this in Thailand, and they throw you out.

[Blue Muton]

46 minutes ago, nauseus said:

If you have witnessed the orange juice factory democracy of the European Parliament in action, you will know how laws are "passed". It's a total joke.

 

"Project Fear" is owned and practiced by remainers. You can keep that tag.

 

EU law is all arrived at democratically but only via the EU's interpretation of that word, "democratic". Several laws from treaties and other directives and regulations are not good for the UK or many British people. You can start with the CFP, CAP and EU forced minimums on VAT rates. 

 

But the important thing that few discuss here is The Lisbon Treaty, which will have full effect from next year and has changes in a number of policy regimes from ones that need unanimity (possible single state veto rejection), to even more qualified majority voting (QMV), which will mean more chance of the UK having to accept laws that are not in the national interest.

 

The Lisbon Treaty, along with the Maastricht Treaty, should have both been approved by referenda, with possible EU exit points for the UK, in or before both 1992 and 2007. Blair blathered on about one before Brown put his scrawl onto the Lisbon Treaty - but no referendum in advance, of course!

 

The Lisbon Treaty should be better examined by everyone. 

The EU Parliament is elected on a PR basis, so for example 35% of the vote would get you 35% of the seats, that is far more democratic than the UK system where 35% of the vote can get you 55% or more of the seats, how anyone could pretend otherwise is beyond me.

 

I have studied the Lisbon Treaty, which makes it very easy to recognise the "project fear" false accounts of it that Quitters are so keen to share. The treaty is about improving democracy and transparency above all else.

 

I'm not sure what relevance your point about the "minimum" VAT rate is, as the UK government has always set rates above the minimum level so can you explain how that has hurt you? 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

With this showing, he has manners of an Eton boy = the world is mine, even inside your house...

Try this in Thailand, and they throw you out.

He ain't in LOS and he is showing he don't give a sh_t about the F & G's...

 

Hooraaaa....

[puipuitom]

16 hours ago, Loiner said:

It’s getting better by the day for us Brits.

Yes, especially the British pound. Tried to crawl up from the ditch, but is sinking again..

Edited August 23, 2019 by puipuitom

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, Victornoir said:

At least he's funny. Note that Macron laughs well too.

What Macron can do? Throw him out of the Elysee ? 

There is some behaviour you do not do as guest, especially not when you visit a place the first time.. But a baboon like Boris…..

[cmsally]

A couple of off topic posts removed. Please try to stay off the subject of ditches.

[Opl]

51 minutes ago, transam said:

He ain't in LOS and he is showing he don't give a sh_t about the F & G's...

 

Hooraaaa....

You're right BoJo has already done worse, and Macron does'nt care ( see the smile on, his face). 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Opl said:

You're right BoJo has already done worse, and Macron does'nt care ( see the smile on, his face). 

There's a smile on everyone's face, even mine....????

[puipuitom]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

Even for all their waste... they can dump it in the north of England instead of to export it to the EU for recycling and for the rest: burn it into energy.

Britain’s EU rubbish – POLITICO

https://www.politico.eu/article/after-brexit-uk-will-have-to-take-out-the-trash

15-8-2019 · A hard Brexit could turn into a stinking problem for the British ... U.K.'s waste exports to the EU, ... not everyone agrees with Suez's grim Brexit ...

 

Lords question Brexit’s effect on UK waste trade ...

https://resource.co/article/lords-question-brexit-s-effect-uk-waste-trade-12360

23-1-2018 · Lords question Brexit’s effect on UK waste ... the potential impact of Brexit on the UK’s export of waste, ... after we lose EU legal ...

 

No-deal Brexit 'will see more waste going to landfill ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49440290

23-8-2019 · Local councils and firms say exports of waste ... Currently three million tonnes of UK domestic waste is exported to the EU ... even after Brexit.

[puipuitom]

48 minutes ago, Opl said:

You're right BoJo has already done worse, and Macron does'nt care ( see the smile on, his face). 

Maybe that smile is because everybody on the world can see, what a baboon this British PM is...

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Blue Muton said:

The EU Parliament is elected on a PR basis, so for example 35% of the vote would get you 35% of the seats, that is far more democratic than the UK system where 35% of the vote can get you 55% or more of the seats, how anyone could pretend otherwise is beyond me.

 

I have studied the Lisbon Treaty, which makes it very easy to recognise the "project fear" false accounts of it that Quitters are so keen to share. The treaty is about improving democracy and transparency above all else.

 

I'm not sure what relevance your point about the "minimum" VAT rate is, as the UK government has always set rates above the minimum level so can you explain how that has hurt you? 

I was referring to the so-called democratic voting of the EU Parliament, not the way in which MEPs are elected.

 

The "Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe" (the European Union Constitution) failed to be passed unanimously in 2005, after France and the Netherlands rejected it. In 2009, the Lisbon Treaty, effectively a slight rehash of the European Constitution, passed after Ireland voted as they have to do (but not twice) but with the French and Dutch not being given another vote.

 

So via the Lisbon Treaty, we already have an EU Constitution, much of which is enforced already. It may improve transparency but democracy? Not really. It will make it easier for the EU to follow its own path towards federalization and centralisation, without all those pesky vetoes getting in the way. Having a constitution also implies that a superstate is indeed the aim of the EU, which means that the UK would become less of a state and more of a province - this has been warned of for years - and this is probably the prime reason that most leavers want to leave.   

 

If the VAT rate on beer was 5% instead of 15%, then many of us would be happy and less hurt by stupid beer prices. And no, I am not saying that Boris will do this! 

 

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, evadgib said:

Having just watched that clip I can confirm that the selective nature of this post/photo is utter baloney.

its psychological hes just showing macron whos the guvnor.