Basil B Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Pilotman said: 23 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Wonder what would happen if she just said "No". The government would be forced to call an immediate election. Fortunately, she is not in a constitutional position to say no. What would happen if she was to say she was unhappy to be asked to do this as to prevent Parliament executing its democratic rights and was to abdicate in favour of her eldest son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, Pilotman said: The government would be forced to call an immediate election. Fortunately, she is not in a constitutional position to say no. it is a prerogative power of the monarch taken on advice of ministers. The Queen is constitutionally entitled to refuse. The powers are supposed to be used in uncontroversial or politically neutral circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Basil B said: What would happen if she was to say she was unhappy to be asked to do this as to prevent Parliament executing its democratic rights and was to abdicate in favour of her eldest son? I've never seen such clutching at straws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Enoon said: No. She does so in matters in the "outer world" of the Commonwealth (sacking Gough Whitlam and de-homing the people of Diego Garcia for instance. Both carried out by "Orders in Council") but not in the UK with regard to anything of such importance. In the UK she "unilaterally" appoints university chancellors, orders the moving of a cemetery boundary and other things of low significance and controversy. She will kick it back to Parliament. And anyone unwise enough to ask her to "take sides" will never get a retirement Knighthood, or any other royal honour. "And anyone unwise enough to ask her to "take sides" will never get a retirement Knighthood, or any other royal honour." So no Sir Boris Or lord Boris ? ….. well that's already 1 great consolation to know the ego tripper is blocked to that ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adammike Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Pilotman said: The government would be forced to call an immediate election. Fortunately, she is not in a constitutional position to say no. She could abdicate and Charles may decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Enoon said: She will kick it back to Parliament. Hopefully the parliamentary rules will change so that parliament has to agree to be prorogued in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: It is not their "democratic right" to overrule a democratic majority vote which they were elected to uphold according to their last General Election manifestoes (Tory & Labour)! That vote was to leave. There was nothing in the referendum regarding deals Actually it is their right to make decisions. That's democracy in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, oldhippy said: Make up your mind when you insult Corbyn. A follower of Trotsky (a jew, real name Lev Davidovitch Bronstein) or an anti semite? What will it be? He is both. Trotskyism is a political cread, anti semitism is a discriminatory disease. They are different, as you should be aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuandjulie Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, Pilotman said: well I must say that despite the odds, so far, he's not doing an bad job at all. Yep H2S looking like being cancelled, not the 20,000 extra police promised, pound still falling, trying to suspend parliament on the sly. Doing a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, adammike said: She could abdicate and Charles may decline. I wouldn't have thought so, Charles wears his crown in bed just in case he gets called for at short notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Cat amongst the pigeons. Request is in. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Pilotman said: He is both. Trotskyism is a political cread, anti semitism is a discriminatory disease. They are different, as you should be aware. 555, good try. And before you accuse Corbyn of being anti semite AND a hard core Marxist, you might think for a few minutes (or days) about the origins of the name Marx. Just trying to save you from further embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 john major closed parliament so can boris if he likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said: john major closed parliament so can boris if he likes The difference John Major closed Parliament early for a General Election . Not to frustrate the will of Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, nauseus said: Cat amongst the pigeons. Request is in. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632 Perhaps more accurately, the cat’s out of the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Why doesn't Boris ask Meecham to write a new constitution (or Magna Carta, or whatever), so that he can do as he wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBlond Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Finally someone taking a firm lead. Should have done this in the beginning. And all MPs who have been actively trying to subvert the democratic process should be prosecuted or at least kicked out of politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, david555 said: Not enough ….. she just should sack him , she has the power to that …..but ……. By saking Johnson she could cause the UK into a No Deal Exit of the EU by default as we have only a few weeks left, holding a GE will take at least 5 weeks then almost certainly we will have no party with an overall majority, lot of horse trading that could take weeks and then recall parliament, if after the horse trading no party could get the majority of MP's on side we could end up with another GE and so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, JamesBlond said: Finally someone taking a firm lead. Should have done this in the beginning. And all MPs who have been actively trying to subvert the democratic process should be prosecuted or at least kicked out of politics. I agree. What's good enough for Thailand, is good enough for the UK (or any other banana republic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, JamesBlond said: Finally someone taking a firm lead. Should have done this in the beginning. And all MPs who have been actively trying to subvert the democratic process should be prosecuted or at least kicked out of politics. Said without a jot of irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Wonder what would happen if she just said "No". It would be the end of the British monarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said: It would be the end of the British monarchy. There's plenty more where they came from (Germany). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mcseismic Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, oldhippy said: 555, good try. And before you accuse Corbyn of being anti semite AND a hard core Marxist, you might think for a few minutes (or days) about the origins of the name Marx. Just trying to save you from further embarrassment. You are embarrassing yourself. An ideology (both Trotskyism, or, Marxism) can be followed at the same time as being anti-semitic. The race of the person who first invented these "isms" is immaterial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Perhaps more accurately, the cat’s out of the bag. I like mine better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, oldhippy said: There's plenty more where they came from (Germany). Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: More to the point, should she ever be put in the position in which her actions are so necessarily partisan?! Why should she be consulted on anything? Why should any citizen ask her permission for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forethat Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, oldhippy said: There's plenty more where they came from (Germany). 555+ Good one! *lifts hat* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Johnson has just provided moderate Parliamentarians either-side of the Brexit issue with solid grounds to support a vote of no confidence. Perhaps deliberately so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sammieuk1 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 The pound has already fallen sharply as Boris try's a new pair of prorogued's on and got misquoted at a Chelsea shoe shop???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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