Jack100 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 It all seems a bit unfair to me ...Trump saw a jugular and went for it . A bit like asking a Tiger to go easy on that poor lamb ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, Jack100 said: It all seems a bit unfair to me ...Trump saw a jugular and went for it . A bit like asking a Tiger to go easy on that poor lamb ! Yes, it's totally unfair to ask of the President of the US not to blackmail foreign heads of state for own political gains. One cannot hold Trump up to such lofty standards. Agree totally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Tippaporn said: Maybe you have adopted Trump's moral compass, Baiting but Zelensky seems to understand who he is doing a favor, Speculation, personal interpretation and he is not the only one, Opinion stated as fact, no evidence provided. that's how things work with Trump at US Presidency. Speculation, opinion dressed up as fact. No evidence provided. Trump is innocent of this charge until proven guilty. To talk as if he were already guilty is disingenuous. To raise any circumstance surrounding this "scandal" and pretend that it is rooted in corruption without providing any evidence is disingenuous. This is what Dems do. Is Biden also innocent of whatever he is being charged with until proven guilty? Is there any evidence that VP Biden did anything illegal? Trump is asking another country's President to dig up dirt on a political appointment. You don't see anything wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, heybruce said: Is Biden also innocent of whatever he is being charged with until proven guilty? Is there any evidence that VP Biden did anything illegal? Trump is asking another country's President to dig up dirt on a political appointment. You don't see anything wrong with that? Is there something wrong when a policeman investigates crime report? Is the cop digging dirt or doing his job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, canuckamuck said: Is there something wrong when a policeman investigates crime report? Is the cop digging dirt or doing his job? Which cop are you talking about? And please, leave Trudeau out of your next post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Becker said: Which cop are you talking about? And please, leave Trudeau out of your next post. If you didn't get the context, I can't be bothered to spoon feed it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, canuckamuck said: If you didn't get the context, I can't be bothered to spoon feed it to you. You can't spoon feed something that's not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Becker said: You can't spoon feed something that's not there. Exactly. There was no there there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzley Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Democrats hipocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Historians say the infamous call is like nothing they've ever heard before. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trumps-call-with-ukrainian-leader-is-unlike-anything-presidential-scholars-have-heard-before/2019/09/25/2165b13e-dfb9-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, muzley said: Democrats hipocracy. Not surprising but it was ultra stupid to impeach about lying about consensual sex. What we have here in what "trump" did is at a totally different level of significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, chokrai said: Oh it's going to be painful alright. The Democrats will be squealing for another 5 years at least. Seems to have fired up Trump's support. Evidently he raised $5 million dollars in the time since Pelosi held her press event, from all 50 states. The dems need to realize that impeachment A. won't work B. will give the impression that they are trying to steal the election. You all are up in the polls it should be decided by voting. If the dems somehow remove Trump they will never get anything done with a split house and senate. If they get a clean win they will have somewhat of a mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 The White House has a complete transcript of Ukraine call but hid it in a possible 'abuse of power,' whistleblower complaint says A whistleblower complaint over a call between US President Donald Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart said that White House officials hid a full transcript of the call. The document, released Thursday, claims that White House lawyers moved the transcript from one computer system to a much more secure one reserved for classified information. The whistleblower said they had been told the contents of the call did not need to be classified this way, and were moved for political reasons. https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-hid-full-transcript-of-trump-ukraine-call-whistleblower-2019-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin612 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Oh please, he will begin his second term soon, democratics are weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, kevin612 said: Oh please, he will begin his second term soon, democratics are weak. Yeah, like you know that. "trump" fans keep up the vacuous taunting over confidence, that's exactly how we like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/25/new-quinnipiac-poll-shows-americans-dont-want-trump-impeached-removed/2438970001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/25/new-quinnipiac-poll-shows-americans-dont-want-trump-impeached-removed/2438970001/ And ya think that can't change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Never mind Biden, I think the problem for the Democrats, is they are running scared from what may be found about their interference of the 2016 election. If they were concerned about interference from the Russians, Ukraine, or Trump, why didn't they let the FBI investigate their servers, and other matters? Another smoke screen and preemptive attack, by an Obama operative, trying to cover Obama's tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, chokrai said: Kinda like the Democrat over confidence in the Mueller report over 2 years. What about not inciting a sitting potus (that’s president of the United States)for you non Americans don’t you understand?are you watching what’s going on right now on tv Donald is finally getting exposed for what he is a classic case of corruption I just wish it was easyer to get rid of this guy so we can get competent leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tug said: What about not inciting a sitting potus (that’s president of the United States)for you non Americans don’t you understand?are you watching what’s going on right now on tv Donald is finally getting exposed for what he is a classic case of corruption I just wish it was easyer to get rid of this guy so we can get competent leadership But that was the problem in 2016, and again in 2020. Who would that competent leadership be? Comrades Bernie, or Warren, surely you don't think Joe can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, beechguy said: But that was the problem in 2016, and again in 2020. Who would that competent leadership be? Comrades Bernie, or Warren, surely you don't think Joe can do it. Just about anyone would be better joe imo would be an excellent choice experienced calm a team player just the kind of leader we need to restore stability mend alliances restore prestige and mitigate the damage this fiasco of an administration has created so absolutely joe would be 100,000% better than trump without question imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, beechguy said: But that was the problem in 2016, and again in 2020. Who would that competent leadership be? Comrades Bernie, or Warren, surely you don't think Joe can do it. It's always bizarre to see Trump supporters criticizing Biden on the grounds of incompetence. Or not being fully engaged with reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, bristolboy said: It's always bizarre to see Trump supporters criticizing Biden on the grounds of incompetence. Or not being fully engaged with reality. But Joe has a track record, and Trump is the least of his problems, when it comes to the nomination. Never mind comments from a Trump supporter, look at the comments from his fellow Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 White House 'tried to cover up details of Trump-Ukraine call' https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49842895 I wonder why????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 The latest from the disturbingly unhinged president. He said he was going to try to stop the impeachment process through the courts. That's not a thing. A few days ago he said Biden deserved the electric chair.How anyone still supports that man is truly amazing. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Off-topic, troll posts and replies removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 13 hours ago, canuckamuck said: Is there something wrong when a policeman investigates crime report? Is the cop digging dirt or doing his job? Why did the policeman only get interested in the four year old crime report, which had already been investigated and found to be baseless, when there was political gain for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Enough of the "but, but, but....Biden!" Trump solicited help from a foreign national for his election campaign, which is illegal, and made it clear that future US military aid to Ukraine was contingent on getting this election help, which is an abuse of power. All else is deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, heybruce said: Why did the policeman only get interested in the four year old crime report, which had already been investigated and found to be baseless, when there was political gain for him? No for the policeman there would be career gains by being seen to do good police work. It would look good on his record. Just as politicians are motivated by political gains. That's how they get elected and stay in power. Things that look good on their record make people vote for them. And exposing corruption in a rival is not only the right thing to do, it is politically expedient. The left has been digging up dirt relentlessly as their only policy move appears to be impeachment. If they actually got some dirt it would help them too. The left has no room to complain about dirt digging. It is all they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, heybruce said: Enough of the "but, but, but....Biden!" Trump solicited help from a foreign national for his election campaign, which is illegal, and made it clear that future US military aid to Ukraine was contingent on getting this election help, which is an abuse of power. All else is deflection. I agree with your entire post and I don't like any of that "but,but,but" stuff either. Still, it has never been clear to me how soliciting help from a foreign national for an election campaign, by proxy, is substantially different than seeking help from a foreign national for an election campaign directly. The intent of both actions, it seems to me, are clearly illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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