UK can leave the EU on October 31 without a deal, Javid says

 

Britain's Chancellor of the Exchequer Sajid Javid arrives at the Conservative Party annual conference in Manchester, Britain, September 29, 2019. REUTERS/Phil Noble

 

MANCHESTER, England (Reuters) - The United Kingdom can leave the European Union on Oct. 31 without a deal despite a law which demands the prime minister ask for a Brexit delay if there is no agreement, finance minister Sajid Javid said on Monday.

 

When asked if a no deal was possible, Javid told the BBC: “Yes it is. It’s not our preferred outcome. We are working incredibly hard to get a deal by October 31.”

 

“But if we do not manage to do that, we do still need to leave the EU on that date - we cannot have any more dither and delay, and we will leave if we have to, without a deal, on October 31,” Javid said. He said he thought he knew how that was possible given the law.

 

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18 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

We are working incredibly hard to get a deal by October 31.

Liar!

 

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Liar!

 

What is that based on ?

Do you have any suggestion that they arent infact working hard to get a deal or are you just calling him a "liar" based on nothing ?

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

What is that based on ?

Do you have any suggestion that they arent infact working hard to get a deal or are you just calling him a "liar" based on nothing ?

Do you follow the news?

Because if you follow the news then you should have seen lots of interviews with top EU politicians over the last weeks who confirm there is no (written) suggestion from the UK government for any new deal.

If Boris would have an idea why shouldn't he publish it? He has to discuss it with the EU anyhow to get their agreement. And of course he needs the vote from the UK parliament. How does he convince them all to vote for something unknown? It won't happen.

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you follow the news?

Because if you follow the news then you should have seen lots of interviews with top EU politicians over the last weeks who confirm there is no (written) suggestion from the UK government for any new deal.

If Boris would have an idea why shouldn't he publish it? He has to discuss it with the EU anyhow to get their agreement. And of course he needs the vote from the UK parliament. How does he convince them all to vote for something unknown? It won't happen.

 

    Are the UK and the EU still in negations about a deal, or is there no dialogue at all between the two ?

8 minutes ago, sanemax said:

 

    Are the UK and the EU still in negations about a deal, or is there no dialogue at all between the two ?

Of course they talk to each other. But talking with each other every couple of days is something very different than "We are working incredibly hard to get a deal by October 31." That's a lie!

 

From the 27th September: Brexit talks close in acrimony with EU saying UK 'solely' to blame 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/27/no-deal-brexit-fault-uk-government-alone-juncker-eu

 

Just one little part of that article:

"Berlin has privately described the papers so far put forward as “completely insufficient”, according to a leaked diplomatic note of a recent meeting of ambassadors in Brussels, seen by the Guardian."

 

And there are many more articles like that all over the news.

 

 

Could have left 3 years ago if we didn,t have a traitor,sorry remainer as a p.m.

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Just one little part of that article:

"Berlin has privately described the papers so far put forward as “completely insufficient”, according to a leaked diplomatic note of a recent meeting of ambassadors in Brussels, seen by the Guardian."
 

There is a difference between (not) working hard and negotiating and giving in to your requirement .

  The Uk Gov may be working hard in their negotiations  whilst at the same time , not giving in to EU demands 

Leave, PLEASE ... so British can finally go back to weather discussions

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Liar!

 

 

 

You know nothing.

 

Verbiage from EU lapdogs simply fuel your agenda.

53 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Could have left 3 years ago if we didn,t have a traitor,sorry remainer as a p.m.

And I thought many Tories didn't vote for the deal which May agreed with the EU.

The UK could be out of the EU since March...

Or the Tories could have replaced May years ago.

But yeah, it's so much easier to blame someone for all those things.

 

46 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

You know nothing.

 

Verbiage from EU lapdogs simply fuel your agenda.

I follow every day at news from several independent UK and EU media.

Sorry the Sun is not on that list. I guess that is where your "knowledge" comes from.

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And I thought many Tories didn't vote for the deal which May agreed with the EU.

The UK could be out of the EU since March...

Or the Tories could have replaced May years ago.

But yeah, it's so much easier to blame someone for all those things.

 

That was because Mays deal was in name only and thus Brexiteers voted against it 

Save yourself the effort Javid. The EU believe they have got the upper had, due to the Remainers in UK fighting the EU’s corner for them.
Get us out No Deal, then invite the EU for Trade Deals only.


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52 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I follow every day at news from several independent UK and EU media.

Sorry the Sun is not on that list. I guess that is where your "knowledge" comes from.

 

 

Insults again - your argument is lost  -  again.

 

Post s that just say "liar" are worthless and to assume that every Brexiteer is a Sun reader just evidences your stupidity and prejudices.

57 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And I thought many Tories didn't vote for the deal which May agreed with the EU.

The UK could be out of the EU since March...

Or the Tories could have replaced May years ago.

But yeah, it's so much easier to blame someone for all those things.

 

 

 

May agreed nothing, she had no such authority, she was the main negotiator on behalf of the British government. 

 

Parliament did not like her deal and voted against on 3 occasions. 

GMB today:

 

I wonder if the expats living here would be so enthusiastic about overturning a referendum result if the referendum result was about granting those living abroad full upgrades of pension every year ? 

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

 

    Are the UK and the EU still in negations about a deal, or is there no dialogue at all between the two ?

 

        No deal.  Count down is on,  for D day . 

Sit back and watch gbp , go down the ditch . 

 Plan B,  Bonkers goes into the ditch , with Royal consent ..

 

 

Edited September 30, 20196 yr by elliss

3 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

        No deal.  Count down is on for D day . 

Sit back and watch gbp , go down the ditch . 

       

looks at XE.com, pound up from same time last month. (from 37.2 to 37.6)

Edited September 30, 20196 yr by BritManToo

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

looks at XE.com, pound up from same time last month. (from 37.2 to 37.6)

 

 Correct , one mouth ago there was hope ,  and then shte hit the fan ..

  October ending , any predictions on gbp ?..

 

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 20196 yr by elliss

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

Could have left 3 years ago if we didn,t have a traitor,sorry remainer as a p.m.

You sure about that?

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

You know nothing.

 

Verbiage from EU lapdogs simply fuel your agenda.

He knows a lot more than you.

Listening to him on the radio this morning he said [quot] "in 2010 When we first came back to office, we were absolutely economically on our knees, we were the laughing stock of Europe then..." so what are we now, the Tories have now made us the basket case of Europe...

 

As for him quoting our economy is better now... The pound has dropped to below $1.090 this month from 1.435 in July 2015.

 

Best quote to day came from Google who wrote to me saying "We are writing to inform you that, due to the possibility of the UK leaving the EU and incorporating an amended version of the GDPR into UK law, we will be updating:..." ????

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you follow the news?

Because if you follow the news then you should have seen lots of interviews with top EU politicians over the last weeks who confirm there is no (written) suggestion from the UK government for any new deal.

If Boris would have an idea why shouldn't he publish it? He has to discuss it with the EU anyhow to get their agreement. And of course he needs the vote from the UK parliament. How does he convince them all to vote for something unknown? It won't happen.

Indeed, the government knows only broadly what the outline of a deal might look like:

 

1 hour ago, fishtank said:

He knows a lot more than you.

 

58 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

looks at XE.com, pound up from same time last month. (from 37.2 to 37.6)

you really ought to compare against a more stable currency...

 

but if you want to compare it ,In July 2015 the Thai Baht peeked at over 54 to below 37...

1 hour ago, elliss said:

 

 Correct , one mouth ago there was hope ,  and then shte hit the fan ..

  October ending , any predictions on gbp ?..

It'll be on the up by valentines day...

 

As you're pissing on all things Brexit here's the Mogg:

 

Edited September 30, 20196 yr by evadgib

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

There is a difference between (not) working hard and negotiating and giving in to your requirement .

  The Uk Gov may be working hard in their negotiations  whilst at the same time , not giving in to EU demands 

After Brexit, the UK will probably step by step have to take over european legislation in exchange for accessing part of the EU's single market but without having its say on it -

and that's what will be branded as " regaining  sovereignty" to brexiters, and everyone will be happy.  

9 minutes ago, Opl said:

After Brexit, the UK will probably step by step have to take over european legislation in exchange for accessing part of the EU's single market but without having its say on it -

and that's what will be branded as " regaining  sovereignty" to brexiters, and everyone will be happy.  

It is already said by many E.U. leaders and specially by Barnier and Iris side , that after a no deal Brexit all the same topics come on the table to negotiate again…. so it is not finished even after Brexit ...

Edited September 30, 20196 yr by david555