webfact Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Two underage girls saved from human trafficking karaoke bar By The Nation Police raided a karaoke bar on Bangkok’s Thaniya Road on Tuesday and rescued two 17-year-old girls working in the sex trade. Acting on a tip off that the karaoke joint was being used for human trafficking, Superintendent Pol Col Douangchote Suwanjalask and his deputy, Pol.Lt.Col. Satit Sorncha of Bang Rak police station led the raid as part of the government’s “Prevention and Suppression of Human Trafficking” policy. There, they found Janrija Saisaeng welcoming customers to the third floor, which was serving as a brothel. Two of the girls were identified as underage, leading to the arrest of Janjira and the building owner, Thanapat Paladechanun. Thanapat later admitted that the two 17 year-olds were employees of the bar and serviced regular customers. They received salaries of Bt8,000 and Bt200-300 more for “entertaining” customers. Clients paid them out of their own pockets if they took the girls out for sex, paying the bar a buy-out fee of Bt700. The police charged Janjira and Thanapat with human trafficking and the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security will assign psychiatrists to take care of the two victims. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377060 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-04 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 BIG headline: 17 year old Thai girls have sex - and some even do it for money. Wow, amazing Thailand! But now after they rescued these two girls everything will be alright again. ???? 4 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hansnl Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: BIG headline: 17 year old Thai girls have sex - and some even do it for money. Wow, amazing Thailand! But now after they rescued these two girls everything will be alright again. ???? Wonder if said girls wanted to be saved, and who told the police. Probably another Karaoke bar..... 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post legend49 Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: BIG headline: 17 year old Thai girls have sex - and some even do it for money. Wow, amazing Thailand! But now after they rescued these two girls everything will be alright again. ???? What will they do with the University girls earning sex money to pay the uni fees? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ugothai Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 When do they start to put in jail the families that usually send the daughters to work?? This is thai culture, do you know ???? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Why do so many countries conform to American standards of morality. 16 is a much more realistic age, particularly as girls are maturing at earlier ages now than in the past. ''A study by Dr. Marcia Herman-Giddens found that in 1860, the average age of the onset of puberty in girls was 16.6 years. In 1920, it was 14.6; in 1950, 13.1; 1980, 12.5; and in 2010, it had dropped to 10.5. Similar sets of figures have been reported for boys, albeit with a delay of around a year.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, legend49 said: What will they do with the University girls earning sex money to pay the uni fees? Most of them are over 20 years old; they do what they want with their bodies. the police can not say anything unless they catches them in the act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, anterian said: Why do so many countries conform to American standards of morality. 16 is a much more realistic age, particularly as girls are maturing at earlier ages now than in the past. ''A study by Dr. Marcia Herman-Giddens found that in 1860, the average age of the onset of puberty in girls was 16.6 years. In 1920, it was 14.6; in 1950, 13.1; 1980, 12.5; and in 2010, it had dropped to 10.5. Similar sets of figures have been reported for boys, albeit with a delay of around a year.'' It seems normally nobody cares about American standards in Thailand. Until the moment some NGOs make a big fuss or maybe some important US visitor and there has to be some raid before that to show everybody that Thailand enforces the laws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4675636b596f75 Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: Social Development and Human Security will assign psychiatrists to take care of the two victims. And in a few months when the little tykes reach 18? They will be declared cured and devoid of any psychosis from their obvious mental trauma? Is the Karaoke holding their jobs for them? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Get rid of these criminals! There are plenty of attractive ladies over 20 years old available in Thailand. No need for underage or human trafficking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lensta Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, anterian said: Why do so many countries conform to American standards of morality. 16 is a much more realistic age, particularly as girls are maturing at earlier ages now than in the past. ''A study by Dr. Marcia Herman-Giddens found that in 1860, the average age of the onset of puberty in girls was 16.6 years. In 1920, it was 14.6; in 1950, 13.1; 1980, 12.5; and in 2010, it had dropped to 10.5. Similar sets of figures have been reported for boys, albeit with a delay of around a year.'' "particularly as girls are maturing at earlier ages now than in the past." Not in Thailand they don't. In their 30's and still reading comics and buying hello kitty stuff. 6 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shy coconut Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, anterian said: Why do so many countries conform to American standards of morality. 16 is a much more realistic age, particularly as girls are maturing at earlier ages now than in the past. ''A study by Dr. Marcia Herman-Giddens found that in 1860, the average age of the onset of puberty in girls was 16.6 years. In 1920, it was 14.6; in 1950, 13.1; 1980, 12.5; and in 2010, it had dropped to 10.5. Similar sets of figures have been reported for boys, albeit with a delay of around a year.'' I doubt that there is a single developed country in the world who permit prostitution under the age of 18, certainly none of the more liberal northern European nations. Having a sexual relationship with girls over 16 is generally accepted in most countries, although eyebrows would be raised if there was a large age difference between the couple. It isn't the physical development which is in question, rather the mental ability to make such a decision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: if they took the girls out for sex, paying the bar a buy-out fee of Bt700. In other words, pimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: It seems normally nobody cares about American standards in Thailand. Until the moment some NGOs make a big fuss or maybe some important US visitor and there has to be some raid before that to show everybody that Thailand enforces the laws. You think 18 to old for this law. You not agree the law. How old you think someone can be to be sex worker? 16? 14? 12? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, shy coconut said: the physical development which is in question, rather the mental ability to make such a decision. Yes exactly. Some people have very odd opinions on this. And where do you draw the line? Nigeria is age 11 probably those that think it is all OK. Seems sick and disgusting to me probably have frontal lobe issues... Edited October 4, 2019 by bkk6060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Unfortunately the demand will always be there, and there is no lack of supply in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Yinn said: You think 18 to old for this law. You not agree the law. How old you think someone can be to be sex worker? 16? 14? 12? I think it's more difficult than that. a) Some girls know what they are doing and they are willing to prostitute themselves i.e. to buy the newest mobile phone. b) Some girls are willing to go with some guys but they wouldn't go with everyone. Depending on the bar that is ok or not. c) Some girls are forced to do what they do by their family, mostly older sisters or the mother. d) Some girls are sold into that market. They are not asked if they want to do what they do and they would be punished if they would try to get away. Personally I think version a and b are more or less acceptable when the girls are old enough to have sex. In many cases that's probably around 16 years old. Girls shouldn't be encouraged to find a job like that. But if they absolutely want to do it they will do it anyhow - legal or not. And for the girls which are pushed into that business by their family or criminals those who are responsible should be punished. That means i.e. the mother who demands more and more money from her daughter - knowing exactly what the daughter has to do to make that money. But there is of course also the big problem with social services in Thailand. Let's say there is a 16 year old girl and her family forces her into that business. And let's say the girl is arrested and she tells them her parents sold her. And then let's assume the parents are arrested. And then? What will happen to the girl? I don't know what will happen to her but I am pretty sure she won't have a happy home after that. And then? Sometimes there are no easy answers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 58 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said: And in a few months when the little tykes reach 18? They will be declared cured and devoid of any psychosis from their obvious mental trauma? Is the Karaoke holding their jobs for them? They will be asking for a bus ticket to Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I think it's more difficult than that. a) Some girls know what they are doing and they are willing to prostitute themselves i.e. to buy the newest mobile phone. b) Some girls are willing to go with some guys but they wouldn't go with everyone. Depending on the bar that is ok or not. c) Some girls are forced to do what they do by their family, mostly older sisters or the mother. d) Some girls are sold into that market. They are not asked if they want to do what they do and they would be punished if they would try to get away. Personally I think version a and b are more or less acceptable when the girls are old enough to have sex. In many cases that's probably around 16 years old. Girls shouldn't be encouraged to find a job like that. But if they absolutely want to do it they will do it anyhow - legal or not. And for the girls which are pushed into that business by their family or criminals those who are responsible should be punished. That means i.e. the mother who demands more and more money from her daughter - knowing exactly what the daughter has to do to make that money. But there is of course also the big problem with social services in Thailand. Let's say there is a 16 year old girl and her family forces her into that business. And let's say the girl is arrested and she tells them her parents sold her. And then let's assume the parents are arrested. And then? What will happen to the girl? I don't know what will happen to her but I am pretty sure she won't have a happy home after that. And then? Sometimes there are no easy answers. I knew a girl who got kicked out of her home by her father go and find a farang and get money, she never went back home and she didn't go on the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I don't understand why people are mocking the story. I didn't even know people had sex in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Trafficked. By getting on a bus to the capital, then selling themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deli Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) So the new pick up truck for the family has been put on hold Edited October 4, 2019 by Deli 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Yinn said: How old you think someone can be to be sex worker? 16? 14? 12? Hi Yinn how are you today? How old are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 12 hours ago, NCC1701A said: Hi Yinn how are you today? How old are you? Over 14, too old for you 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, legend49 said: What will they do with the University girls earning sex money to pay the uni fees? send them to me for 'reeducation' lol lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 The bar "buy out" fee....bar fines are slave procurement....pay the bar, use the girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 12 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: The bar "buy out" fee....bar fines are slave procurement....pay the bar, use the girl. Its prostitution and pimping , just the people involved deny everything 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Sunderland said: I don't understand why people are mocking the story. I didn't even know people had sex in Thailand. Evidently, you need to get out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 Quote Two underage girls saved... Could it be that the two 17 year old girls actually works there freely to earn some easy money... ???? –however, still illegal after the law, but I often wonder about the words "saved" and "rescued" in articles are about almost 18 year old girls. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 They were working as service staff. The headline should read: 'teenage girls kidnapped from work by armed thugs'...The were NOT rescued and they were NOT Trafficked but they were and still are victims of police interference, who probably had not been paid offf...hence the raid. A young adult decided she did not want to a poverty stricken rice farmer and used her initiative to better herself. No she's stuck in the patriarchal penal sytem known for its hideous conditions and abuse. Disgraceful. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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