If you have an O-A visa (or a rentry permit for your second year) currently outside Thailand but intend to enter Thailand after October 31st, you will be asked to show a proper health insurance or face entry denial. As with every thing in the LOS (land of sex), it will be random and some may pass thorugh the immigration and some will be sent to airport detentions and subsequently sent back from where you boarded your last flight.

To avoid all these, please don't sign any paper. Simply refuse to acknoledge your guilt by signing any document. If they say you don't have insurance, show them what ever insurance you have (hopefully people have some insurance). If possible, buy a one month travel insurance before boarding your flight. 

Remain adamant about not signing any paper or paying for any flight ticket to go back. Keep 20K in case they want to deny you based on the legal 20K loop hole. 

 

Ask them to let you enter on visa exempt at least. Again in no case sign any paper or buy any ticket. If they put you in airport detention, please post it here so that somebody can contact media to make it an issue. 

 

Bottomline, make them to give you entry based on at least a visa exempt entry.

 

Once you're inside Thailand, get in touch with an agent to make it one year retirement extension without putting 800K in the bank. Problem solved. Beat the immigration at their own game.

I will be coming from Spain in November and I will adopt the above technique. I have a United Healhcare Catastrophic insurance with a HSA of 500K BHT. I simply won't buy any stupid Thai insurance.

 

 

Edited October 10, 20196 yr by onera1961

Show them your visa to prove it was issued long before the insurance requirements went into effect if try to make a problem.

They may not notice your visa since you are using a re-entry permit to enter the country.

15 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Show them your visa to prove it was issued long before the insurance requirements went into effect if try to make a problem.

They may not notice your visa since you are using a re-entry permit to enter the country.

That won't work becuase the police order clearly says entry will be dienied (no matter when the visa was granted). It also says, if the person is inside Thailand it is OK to not have a health insurance. IOs have become bold denying entry to TV/METV visa holders and now they are fishing for O-A visa holders. I also doubt the embassies will start requiring health insurance to issue visa. They may issue visa without insurance for sometimes in the near future. 

Edited October 10, 20196 yr by onera1961

As the required insurance can be bought online, they might well give you the option to do it there and then. Or else...

You can try to look extremely healthy and fit when you come in, as they only looking for and refer to 'risky' and sickly looking foreigners who will need medical insurance...

1 minute ago, Caldera said:

As the required insurance can be bought online, they might well give you the option to do it there and then. Or else...

I think the purchase is not instantaneous. Your application is only instantaneous. 

1 minute ago, ezzra said:

You can try to look extremely healthy and fit when you come in, as they only looking for and refer to 'risky' and sickly looking foreigners who will need medical insurance...

One should not be entering Thailand if sick.

To avoid the drama use a SETV or visa exempt and see an agent when you get in as op suggested

13 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

That won't work becuase the police order clearly says entry will be dienied (no matter when the visa was granted).

Where does it say that?

It certainly does not state it is retroactive.

I have a better strategy. Buy the proper insurance or stay home. 

20 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

That won't work becuase the police order clearly says entry will be dienied (no matter when the visa was granted). It also says, if the person is inside Thailand it is OK to not have a health insurance. IOs have become bold denying entry to TV/METV visa holders and now they are fishing for O-A visa holders. I also doubt the embassies will start requiring health insurance to issue visa. They may issue visa without insurance for sometimes in the near future. 

IO love is spreading around from the young METV holders to the retirement visa holders now. Nobody seems safe these days.

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Where does it say that?

It certainly does not state it is retroactive.

Every thing should not be spelled out. Only a court can decide what is legal or not legal if conflict arises. But it is said the IOs can deny entry. That is sufficient to empower IOs.

7 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

I have a better strategy. Buy the proper insurance or stay home. 

I have insurance that is accepted any where in the World. I have an HSA master card that was accepted for 70K BHT in Bangkok Hospital and 3K Euro in Amsterdam. It has one million USD for emergency evacuation plan and unlimited inpatient/outpatient expenses after I meet my dedctibles of 7600 USD using my HSA master card that has close to 500K BHT. Why I want to buy a worthless Thai insurance?

Edited October 10, 20196 yr by onera1961

7 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

IO love is spreading around from the young METV holders to the retirement visa holders now. Nobody seems safe these days.

 

Edited October 10, 20196 yr by FritsSikkink

6 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

Every thing should not be spelled out. Only a court can decide what is legal or not legal if conflict arises. But it is said the IOs can deny entry. That is sufficient to empower IOs.

just get a health insurance and don't spread illegal advice.

8 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

IO love is spreading around from the young METV holders to the retirement visa holders now. Nobody seems safe these days.

Any one who complies with the rules is safe.

I have a better strategy. Buy the proper insurance or stay home. 

The thai insurance is rubbish, everyone should know that by now

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