Nakhon Pathom poll: Fun math that won’t amuse Thanathorn

[snoop1130]

Nakhon Pathom poll: Fun math that won’t amuse Thanathorn

 

 

The math and stats emerging from Nakhon Pathom don’t look good for Future Forward. They, and what the party has said and done itself, combine to make the by-election loss in the province a lot more than just a one-off defeat, something that is easy to dismiss and forget.

 

When a rising-star politician calls for a voter snub of his enemy, he is supposed to get it. Future Forward leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit had deemed Nakhon Pathom’s Constitutency 5 as “the first domino to fall” for the controversial reign of Prayut Chan-o-cha. Go out and show the government how you think about it, he had told voters repeatedly before Wednesday.

 

That call, plus the fact that the by-election was being held for a parliamentary seat left vacant by a Future Forward MP due to her ill health, seemed to make the question of who would win the contest a no-brainer. To add to that, two government candidates were running to take votes off each other.

 

As it turns out, a government candidate beat a Future Forward runner comfortably to grab the seat according to unofficial results. The other government candidate comes third, getting a sizeable support that makes analysts wonder what would happen if he had not run and thus made it a more straightforward showdown between Future Forward and the ruling coalition.

 

All this should worry Thanathorn, who created a political fever in the March general election and is believed to still command formidable popularity. The Future Forward Party has tried to play down the shocking loss by pointing at the fact that the by-election took place in the middle of the week, not a Sunday. Many voters forming the party’s political base may have stayed away because of that, leading to a turn-out remarkably lower than March 24, Future Forward said.

 

Stats show that if the dates were a factor, they are not a big one. In the general election in Constituency 5, there were 143,059 eligible voters. A total of 109,038 of them cast their ballots, of which 4,770 were invalid and 2,387 were marked abstained. The winner, Jumpita Jankachorn of the Future Forward Party received 34,164 votes.

 

In this by-election, there are 143,542 eligible voters. A total of 91,043 of them cast their ballots. The voter turn-out is roughly 18,000 lower than the March exercise. Padermchai Sasomsap of the Chartthaipattana Party, unofficially, received 37,675 votes, compared with Future Forward candidate Pairattachote Jankachorn’s 28,216 votes.

 

Supposing the missing 18,000 votes were all pro-Future Forward and they had been taken into account, Pairattachote would have got more than 46,000 votes. But if this by-election had been a direct government-opposition showdown and the Democrat Party had not contested, Padermchai would have received a large chunk of the pro-Democrat votes. The Democrat runner, Surachai Anuttato, came third with 18,425 votes this time. If the pro-Surachai votes had been given to Padermchai, he would have got more than 56,000 votes.

 

Simply put, give Pairattachote all the ghost 18,000 votes and Padermchai all the pro-Surachai votes, they cancel each other out, and Padermchai would still win.

 

Another fun way to do it is spread the missing 18,000 votes according to the March percentages. Future Forward got approximately 34% in March so Pairattachote should get an additional 6,120 votes. Padermchai, who also contested in that March election, should get an additional 2,160 votes. He would still win and Pairattachote would still lose.

 

A lot of analyses are being done to explain the Nakhon Pathom poll results. Opinions have been divided, but most watchers seem to agree that the “fever” that helped carry Jumpita to victory in March is not that strong this time. Whether what has happened in the by-election is strictly “provincial” or whether it signals a “national” trend remains to be seen.

 

The Future Forward Party will move on. But this time, with its feet more on the ground.

 

Source: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/nakhon-pathom-poll-fun-math-that-wont-amuse-thanathorn/

 

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[CNXexpat]

I think the FF fans are good educated and have to work, so they can´t vote on a working day. 

[Eligius]

Why anyone - after all that we have seen over the last 6 years, particularly since the horrendously faked and perverted sham of an election and post-election - would blindly and uncritically trust ANY 'election' result that favours the military Autocrats, is quite beyond me.

 

For God's sake: it is not the votes that count, but the people who COUNT (and are secretly paid to count) the votes!

 

(And of course the absolutely dreadful, Establishment-drooling Thai PBS just loves rubbing Thanathorn's nose in a supposed defeat. Pathetic!).

 

 

[RichardColeman]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Supposing the missing 18,000 votes were all pro-Future Forward and they had been taken into account, Pairattachote would have got more than 46,000 votes.

Sounds like a pesky re-moaner argument to me !

[cornishcarlos]

The fake news police should be all over this !!

But wait, it's pro "government", so can't be fake :)

[robblok]

13 hours ago, Eligius said:

Why anyone - after all that we have seen over the last 6 years, particularly since the horrendously faked and perverted sham of an election and post-election - would blindly and uncritically trust ANY 'election' result that favours the military Autocrats, is quite beyond me.

 

For God's sake: it is not the votes that count, but the people who COUNT (and are secretly paid to count) the votes!

 

(And of course the absolutely dreadful, Establishment-drooling Thai PBS just loves rubbing Thanathorn's nose in a supposed defeat. Pathetic!).

 

 

I am a supporter of future forward, and this is a defeat. I can't see it any other way. Facts don't lie. 

 

If you can support that there was fraud then great help Thanathorn prove it otherwise its just something you think. 

 

People keep thinking that the junta is not popular but they have a large chunk of the voters. Thailand is divided and the anti junta group is larger.. but not that much larger. Both sides are substantial. 

[monkfish]

He needs to clear his name and get involved in politics again as leader of his Party not sit on the sidelines.

Of course not gonna be easy with the military breathing down his neck even accusing him of being a commie etc.

They will destroy him and his reputation as they have done in the past with other leaders.
 

[seajae]

they need to remove themselves from the ptp, they should be a stand alone party pushing their own values not those of others. People need to see them as an honest party that doesnt associate with a crooked one so that they are a true party for the people and not themselves as per the usual thai party, they need to do what the people want and not what their owner/s wants. People see them getting cosy with the ptp and start to wonder if they are genuine about being against corruption or looking after themselves, Thanathorn needs to get the party back where it was before the election, a genuine stand alone party for the people and one prepared to fight corruption, their original policies were what got them where they were