4 hours ago, Chazar said:

if ever there was a more  unnecessary train needed in Thailand its  this, what they need is a  slower countrywide  good service thats AFFORDABLE

Nothing compare to minivans and buses cost. Those are the affordable services for poor Thais and they are already in place.  

Thus is right to go to high level super modern public transportation systems instead of a 50 years old traditional system.

The future high speed connection with China's high speed rail system (the largest in the world) will open opportunities of gigantic proportion for South Asia countries.

Go Bullet Train! Go!

4 hours ago, BigT73 said:

They will have to make crossings safer as cars are always sneaking thru

Until Korat it is all elevated, like a BTS. After I don't know.

 

I think the proper name for the Chinese Road and Belt is...

Road or Belt....

You will build our road or you will get our belt....

 

Nothing to see here folks China only has Thailands best interest at hart....

4 hours ago, Chazar said:

if ever there was a more  unnecessary train needed in Thailand its  this, what they need is a  slower countrywide  good service thats AFFORDABLE

You mean like buses and trains leaving Bkk regularly to all parts of the country?  You mean like that?  Yea, if only they had something like that...oh wait they do.

Edited November 18, 20196 yr by shdmn

5 minutes ago, Tech65 said:

Nothing compare to minivans and buses cost. Those are the affordable services for poor Thais and they are already in place.  

Thus is right to go to high level super modern public transportation systems instead of a 50 years old traditional system.

The future high speed connection with China's high speed rail system (the largest in the world) will open opportunities of gigantic proportion for South Asia countries.

Go Bullet Train! Go!

Yes the Chinese will have much more easy access to their new colony.... 

Has anyone figured out where the Pattaya station will be yet?  Also that new mall that will supposedly be built by the same company in conjunction with this.

3 hours ago, YetAnother said:

given the general state of (in)competence here, more like 2032

This statement is UNFAIR.

I have been living in BKK since 2008 and travelling Thailand on business since 2005 and I have seen incredible changes in public transportation. Look just at the BTS lines. They have been  progressing so fast that it is even impossible to find in internet an updated map of all the stations and new lines.

The bullet line BKK-Korat appears  to have a good progress and large parts seem completed, so as the huge station in BKK.

They moving really fast indeed.

In EU it took 30 years before having high speed lines in many countries other than France.

Not to talk about USA already 30 years  behind…...

Edited November 18, 20196 yr by Tech65

The cost to ride the new rail will be high....The new rail is not for Thai people its for the Chinese...Cost will not be a problem for them...

9 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

Yes the Chinese will have much more easy access to their new colony.... 

and the Thais to one of the biggest economy in the world…. a good deal yes….

5 minutes ago, Tech65 said:

and the Thais to one of the biggest economy in the world…. a good deal yes….

I dont know about you but I value freedom over money any day...Like....Sihanoukville is much richer now but at what cost?

Edited November 18, 20196 yr by fforest1

2 hours ago, jesimps said:

That's a rhetorical question of course.

No. It is the evidence that he knows nothing about high speed trains and Thais.

Edited November 18, 20196 yr by Tech65

2 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

I dont know about you but I value freedom over money any day...

Which means in this contest…?

2 hours ago, Teddy3943 said:

We have too much traffic related deaths already. With these high speed trains and a crippled car park and hard to take train rail crossings there will be increased casualties at the same high speed...

Need to get some more info about speed trains...

2 hours ago, Estrada said:

The title of this article is incorrect, actually these will not be bullet trains, only High Speed Trains running at lower speeds (160km/hr Don Muang to Suvarnabhumi Airport and 250km/hr onwards to U-Tapao). Bullet trains run at speeds in excess of 320km/hr. It should be noted that in the UK we were running high speed steam trains with a top speed of 203km/hr in 1938. I worked on the design of what became the Intercity 225 which runs at 225km/hr. None of these can be called bullet trains either. In the UK, only the Eurostar trains which run at speeds up to 320km/hr can be considered to be bullet trains.

Correct, it will be high speed train.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

"Taking into account the benefits arising from the HSR, such as passengers' time savings on travel," she went on, "the economic case in favor of doing the project is still outweighed by its financial losses. This line is mostly influenced by China," says Jittichai Rudjanakanoknad of Chulalongkorn University's Department of Civil Engineering. "If Thailand builds it, we might not get much benefit. But if we don't build it, we could lose other benefits from China. That is what the government is thinking."

 

How on earth could a Thai, with an education, say that Thailand would not get much benefit from a high speed railway? It is mind boggling, the degree of ignorance, enshrined within that statement. A high speed rail is necessary for the nation to join the ranks of highly developed nations. Of course, I am not including the US, which has an eroding infrastructure system, that is now well behind much of the developed world. 

super

2 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said:

You underestimate Thais.

 

 

Have you ever flown Thai Airways? 

2 hours ago, ZAKY said:

Long time expecting but still in bla-bla-bla 

It is easy to drive from Bangkok to Korat and rethinking about your comment.

2023 is really overly fast.
In the hometown of Kuching, Sarawak, Eastern Malaysia in Borneo, it took them 50 years to learn to build a simple highway whereby in reality is that they ain't build by local, but Chinese imports from Mainlaind to construct the highway.

Edited November 18, 20196 yr by TTL2

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

So you can't relax on Thai aircraft?

 

 

Do you think the trains will be held to the same standards and safety regulations as an airplane?

2 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

 

Oh ! And that what is it ?

 

 

 

 

France: the country with the oldest HSR. 

It looks like near a station, the speed is not higher than 70 Km/h, while high speed trains in France run normally at 300 Km/h.

Aren't we talking about Thailand here?

 

Edited November 18, 20196 yr by Tech65

2 minutes ago, dcnx said:

Do you think the trains will be held to the same standards and safety regulations as an airplane?

Yes. 

3 hours ago, YetAnother said:

given the general state of (in)competence here, more like 2032

Is that the same incompetence that is seeing major train and station infrastructure projects completed in double quick time in Bangkok as well as track improvements upcountry along with massive elevated road projects out to places like Korat? 

 

Maybe you can't see that from your bar stool wherever you live. Or are you basing the Thais' ability to effect change in their country on the time it took to built a little road tunnel and put in a few dancing dolphins in Pattaya. 

 

Rooster

1 minute ago, dcnx said:

Do you think the trains will be held to the same standards and safety regulations as an airplane?

I think they will try and keep the deaths cased by the rail down to a acceptable number maybe like 10-15 deaths a month would be ok....

It is a definite 'yes' for an answer. Nobody want to risk security and property loss not even life loss due to the current trend of stressful public with lunatic manner.

1 hour ago, thequietman said:

 

You may drive from BKK to Korat. 

If it will be say 7 years, will it make so much difference for you?

In EU it took 30 years to have HSR.

1 hour ago, unamazedloso said:

more loans from china that wont be able to be repaid?

 

Do you have info about it?

I welcome this, but much more needs to be done to solve transportation problems in our world . 

Wars/political conflicts over oil in the middle east is infantile and only serves the wealthy.

 

World governments could get serious with climate change, which could mean the end of the private automobile. 

"UK Govt Committee: End All Private Vehicle Ownership Because Climate Change"

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/23/uk-govt-committee-end-all-private-vehicle-ownership-because-climate-change/

 

"Humanity is now standing at a crossroads. We must now decide which path we want to take. How do we want the future living conditions for all living species to be like?"  Greta Thunberg

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Yeah, Air Asia are terrified of losing all the revenue they get from the Bangkok - Pattaya flights. 

Not only Air Asia...

5 minutes ago, Tech65 said:

You may drive from BKK to Korat. 

If it will be say 7 years, will it make so much difference for you?

In EU it took 30 years to have HSR.

Why writting something about EU ?

 

Arent't we talking about Thailand here?

 

are the words you answered to me a few post above ...

 

4 minutes ago, Tech65 said:

Not only Air Asia...

 

You will have to understand the hidden meaning of certain sentences before writing a false sense as an answer.