Khon Kaen Jeff Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Morning, I have a new HP laptop that I want to run windows on, I don't believe it came with any software. I have bough a Win10 pro key from ebay and don't trust myself to load it up properly and/or correctly, any advice on what to do, shall I take it to a shop, would they likely do it for me if I'm not even buying anything from them? Just not sure what to do, also doesn't help that Win10 is different to 7 which is all that I'm use to. Cheers for any help. KKJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 you can put 'classic start' onto windows 10 to make it look like win 7, take it to a shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Please see: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/install-windows-from-a-usb-flash-drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, steve187 said: you can put 'classic start' onto windows 10 to make it look like win 7, take it to a shop It's pretty easy to do it alone. Shops use their own technique and might put a fishy version on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I would download the OS from Microsoft,and do it yourself, someone in a previous post has put site on how to install on USB flash drive, it's not difficult even I can do it, If you do it in a shop,you don't know what other Cr@p they are going to install,so have a go and try yourself. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Any computer shop will do it for a couple of hundred baht. doing it yourself isnt that hard but you would need a computer with internet access to download windows etc. If you get a shop to do it tell them not to do bogus activation or extra software etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Jeff Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, steve187 said: you can put 'classic start' onto windows 10 to make it look like win 7, take it to a shop Sounds good, Steve. Shall i tell the shop to add classic start or buy myself beforehand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Jeff Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, Peterw42 said: Any computer shop will do it for a couple of hundred baht. doing it yourself isnt that hard but you would need a computer with internet access to download windows etc. No doubt, but just don't trust myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Khon Kaen Jeff said: No doubt, but just don't trust myself. You cant really mess it up, if it all goes wrong just start again. You cant destroy the hardware or render the laptop un-fixable. The install really just asks some information like what username you want, what country etc, the rest is just watching it re-boot a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Khon Kaen Jeff said: Sounds good, Steve. Shall i tell the shop to add classic start or buy myself beforehand? its just a free addon, i use this site to install programs i want, just tick the ones you want and it just does all the work. -https://ninite.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Khon Kaen Jeff said: No doubt, but just don't trust myself. Think about it, English is not their first language. So they are not likely to make the best choices for you during set-up. You really should listen to what is being suggested to you, to do it yourself. You really need to move beyond your thoughts on being unable to complete this simple task. It's the only way to ensure that you have a clean machine. You can create the installation media and take it along to a shop. Then you can stand over them to make sure that they use your clean media and install using your key. Then to make the installation choices that you would choose. You perhaps won't be very popular. Here, you can do it in baby steps and get it exactly as you want it, the first time. Windows 10 isn't that different from Windows 7 in day to day usage. Though it seems that way to new users, because often it has been set up to be used in a way quite different from Windows 7. Encouraging to sign in with a Microsoft account for example. Using Cortana Voice commands etc I disable all of that at the time of installation. Whereas the local technician will not bother to spend time choosing the best options for you. Least of all because he won't know what is best for you. So you'll start with a device that needs serious tweaking from the very beginning, if you allow an unknown local tech to install for you. Do it yourself and you can choose to disable the stuff that you don't want, as you go along. There are so many reasons to run the install yourself. Try to grow a pair and tackle the very easy task with the help of the bods here. You'll be glad that you did. For what more can you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 46 minutes ago, Khon Kaen Jeff said: Sounds good, Steve. Shall i tell the shop to add classic start or buy myself beforehand? Classic Start is FREE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eindhoven said: Think about it, English is not their first language. So they are not likely to make the best choices for you during set-up. You really should listen to what is being suggested to you, to do it yourself. You really need to move beyond your thoughts on being unable to complete this simple task. It's the only way to ensure that you have a clean machine. You can create the installation media and take it along to a shop. Then you can stand over them to make sure that they use your clean media and install using your key. Then to make the installation choices that you would choose. You perhaps won't be very popular. Here, you can do it in baby steps and get it exactly as you want it, the first time. Windows 10 isn't that different from Windows 7 in day to day usage. Though it seems that way to new users, because often it has been set up to be used in a way quite different from Windows 7. Encouraging to sign in with a Microsoft account for example. Using Cortana Voice commands etc I disable all of that at the time of installation. Whereas the local technician will not bother to spend time choosing the best options for you. Least of all because he won't know what is best for you. So you'll start with a device that needs serious tweaking from the very beginning, if you allow an unknown local tech to install for you. Do it yourself and you can choose to disable the stuff that you don't want, as you go along. There are so many reasons to run the install yourself. Try to grow a pair and tackle the very easy task with the help of the bods here. You'll be glad that you did. For what more can you ask? But you cannot create the installation media without having access to an internet connected PC and a USB stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, wgdanson said: But you cannot create the installation media without having access to an internet connected PC and a USB stick. Does he state that he does not have access to these items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Eindhoven said: Does he state that he does not have access to these items? No! Hey Jeff, have you got access to the internet and a USB Stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Of course I would do it on my own. But as others wrote, you need a PC with fast internet access to create the boot media (USB stick). Microsoft offers the download (media creation tool) here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 ("Create Windows 10 installation media") Go to a shop and you will get an installation laced with all kinds of pirated software. Stuff you don't want/need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Jeff Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, wgdanson said: No! Hey Jeff, have you got access to the internet and a USB Stick? I have internet yes which is why I am able to make this post. Don't have a USB stick, At what point would I add classic start, after win10 has been installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, Khon Kaen Jeff said: I have internet yes which is why I am able to make this post. Don't have a USB stick, At what point would I add classic start, after win10 has been installed? Yes. A 16GB stick costs nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, Khon Kaen Jeff said: At what point would I add classic start, after win10 has been installed? Don't bother until everything else is up and running. An 8 GB USB suffices. It's about 4.5 GB content. I am just creating one (1909) overwriting the older version. Always good to have one "just in case". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Khon Kaen Jeff said: I have internet yes which is why I am able to make this post. Don't have a USB stick, At what point would I add classic start, after win10 has been installed? You might not even need Classic Start/Open Shell once you've completed the installation according to instructions. One you have completed the installation, again taking baby steps, if you are not totally happy after trying it out; https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/ Though really just adds another layer of things that can go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Don't bother until everything else is up and running. An 8 GB USB suffices. It's about 4.5 GB content. I am just creating one (1909) overwriting the older version. Always good to have one "just in case". 5.17 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Eindhoven said: 5.17 GB Guess it varies? W10 1909 US English 64bit: Versions with other kernel language might be bigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Eindhoven said: 5.17 GB What's a few MB between friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 20 hours ago, KhunBENQ said: Guess it varies? W10 1909 US English 64bit: Versions with other kernel language might be bigger? ESD file size is not the same as the ISO image size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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