DannyCarlton Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, MarcB said: No he didnt And we will all be happy to read about it... waiting Its like trump and hilary You list the case, give up already finding excuses https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-cites-jard-the-subway-guy-and-gary-glitter-in-deposition-2019-9?r=US&IR=T "In a deposition recording from August 22, Musk reiterated that he found the image of an "old angry white guy living in Thailand" to be suspicious, describing Thailand as a "very dodgy part of the world." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Time Traveller said: Sounds like his lawyer just found another way to scam more money in lawyer fees out of poor ol' Vern. Free legal services (or pro bono services) that Unsworth was offered will not cost him anything. You really think that Unsworth is in any financial position to fight Musk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 hours ago, pookiki said: I think Mr. Mark Stephen's, Esq. better come to grip with defamation laws as they exist in the USA. One of the key issues was that Unsworth had not shown any tangible damages - on the contrary - no one paid any attention to Musk's comments and Unsworth's reputation remained unsullied. Let it be! Maybe someone in Thailand does. Musk also defamed Unsworth's relationship with a Thai lady as pedophilia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 So it seems Unsworth did have an Agent What about this side of the story being presented on TVhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10161208/elon-musk-british-diver-pedo-guy-texts-cash/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoComment Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Who cares really!! The UK scanner has already made a fortune off the press and he is making more everyday this endless and boring story continues. He probably has enough money to retire should he wish. Who knows he may be propping up a bar stool in LOS very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: Insanely high damages claimed by Mr. Unsworth ... Why not just 1 million or so ? If my reputation would be worth 190 millions , I would have lost it a long time ago , not care about anyway . Unsworth initially asked for $75,000 so you need to ask his legal team to explain to you the meaning of, and the reason for, punitive damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, MasterBaker said: i could understand that Brit will need to pay legal fees one way or another I thought Vern was on a no win, no fee contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It appears that Unsworth would have been much better off if he had used the legal services and expertise of a bunch of ThaiVisa posters. That's where he went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, ttrd said: Hmm, Unsworth is the only one who still lives in the quarrel and that long after it ended. Now he tops it with greed and this he managed on his own - Do we see signs of attention urge ... ???? You might but not everybody else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Unsworth should take his case to the Thai court. Jail time for Musk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, warrima said: As i suspected Vernon has not come out of this looking good. Transcripts from his cross examination showed he had sent a significant number of sms relating to the rescue effort and the Musk case. They indicated he was planing to sue pretty much from day 1. He was very rude about the navy seals in one message using the bovine insult and refused interviews unless he was getting paid, telling them to FO if no payment was forthcoming. Also appears he had an agent scouting for (paid) opportunities while the rescue was still ongoing. The claim that Musk was promptly asked to leave the rescue site (Verns CNN interview) - was a straight up lie. On the contrary Musk was inside the cave for an hour with a high level thai official working on Plan B. A space x engineer (who Vern met) was looking for an alternative route for the sub to use. All paints a picture that Vern was the one eyeing financial opportunities from the Cave Rescue. It might paint a picture for you but for me it is a painting by numbers picture with a lot of the numbers missing and a lot of numbers and paints mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcB Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 59 minutes ago, Dice Man said: Ah! I understand now! Its perfectly ok to call Americans " PEDO GUY!! Hello PEDO Guys ...cold this morning? No i dont think you do understand. He didnt say it's ok to call all Americans pedos. Maybe read again... He said there was no tangable damage to Vern One of the main requirements in a defamation lawsuit. This whole suit was a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianAtHeart Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, hugh2121 said: Unsworth should take his case to the Thai court. Jail time for Musk. If that's how Thailand treated those who would magnanimously spend tens of thousands of dollars and sleepless nights to try to help Thai boys stuck in a Thai cave, I don't suppose that anyone would like to help again. Musk was not against Thai people--why should they be against him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, monkfish said: Well that's Unbelievable! My opinion of him just dropped 1 level lower and it was already low. Really is that what Heroes do lol. Do you believe @warrima's post? If so why has nobody else mentioned anything about the GoPro camera? I believe that Vern had one as many of the other rescuers did. It would be a sort of sensible thing to use in cave diving and potholing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrima Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, billd766 said: It might paint a picture for you but for me it is a painting by numbers picture with a lot of the numbers missing and a lot of numbers and paints mixed up. Go read his texts! Monkfish has posted a link to some. Also google the court transcripts from his examination. Much of Verns focus was on monetization through interviews, book deals and movie deals. He even disses some of the (real) divers because they proceeded with interviews without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, hugh2121 said: Unsworth should take his case to the Thai court. Jail time for Musk. before that to the united states supreme court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 A troll/defamatory also off topic post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, billd766 said: Do you believe @warrima's post? If so why has nobody else mentioned anything about the GoPro camera? I believe that Vern had one as many of the other rescuers did. It would be a sort of sensible thing to use in cave diving and potholing. Check post 94 just above I mean previous page now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Fred white said: Look at some of the laws here (la majest) and other anti freedom of speech laws Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said: There is a difference between name calling and inferring paedophilia! That shìt sticks! I think it has all blown out of proportion if old mate got called that in the pub he would shake it off with some expletives, I see a money grab, if this slight was so terrible he would have to go to therapy and all the rest of drug induced functionality. I am sure walking around Thailand he is just another farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, leeneeds said: I think it has all blown out of proportion if old mate got called that in the pub he would shake it off with some expletives, I see a money grab, if this slight was so terrible he would have to go to therapy and all the rest of drug induced functionality. I am sure walking around Thailand he is just another farang. It plays into the general perception abroad that Thailand is a haven for pedo guys, like it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, warrima said: Go read his texts! Monkfish has posted a link to some. Also google the court transcripts from his examination. Much of Verns focus was on monetization through interviews, book deals and movie deals. He even disses some of the (real) divers because they proceeded with interviews without him. Yea and probably why you won't see him in any film coz they refused his fee. Lol and this is the guy we gave the MBE such low standards these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoktorC Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said: There is a difference between name calling and inferring paedophilia! That shìt sticks! I seem to remember that Pete Townshend was arrested, plead guilty, and placed on the sex offenders registry in brit land for child porn.... I think he's still regarded as a top class musician.... don't hear the child porn thing discussed much anymore... After a few years, Vern "the pedo guy" will be forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said: If that's how Thailand treated those who would magnanimously spend tens of thousands of dollars and sleepless nights to try to help Thai boys stuck in a Thai cave, I don't suppose that anyone would like to help again. Musk was not against Thai people--why should they be against him? Small change to a billionaire. Potential advertising? Enormous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonr1971 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Vern should have just been chasing a couple of million $ and then Musk would have settled out of court. Greed is a terrible thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianAtHeart Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, hugh2121 said: Small change to a billionaire. Potential advertising? Enormous. So, if the hand that feeds you has too much food, it's okay to bite it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 hours ago, LomSak27 said: You are believing what a lawyer has stated. Never do that. These are the people who invented fake news. This is the real reason he lost. And you notice how the Thai papers failed to mention that fact BTW - how much he was asking in damages. I may dislike Elon but what do I think of Vern? No sympathy for the tyke scammer. Ho Ho Ho 9 hours ago, webfact said: Mr Unsworth made a claim for £145million in damages but Mr Musk was cleared on Friday. From what I understand from the story at it's outset. Mr. Unsworth was only claiming 70,000 (just over 2 million baht) as that was the minimum claim for it to go to court. The higher figures came from the lawyers. I don't believe that Mr. Unsworth's intention was to get mega-rich from the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 was vern working in thailand or retired ? how much did he earn how does he think his work / life is worth 4.5 billion baht in damages ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The American jury trial is inherently biased according to the likes and dislikes of American jurors.The psychology of jurors everywhere (especially those who are not so bright or not so educated, is to make decisions based on body type, facial type and occupation rather than intellectual ability. I have no doubt the Musk knew exactly whet he was saying and exactly what he was implying. He is also used to influencing people by the force of his own personality (vide persona). He is in very sore need a substantial bring-down. Many people think that hyenas are ugly animals with ugly natures. Nevertheless, there are some folk who consider them beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, HHTel said: From what I understand from the story at it's outset. Mr. Unsworth was only claiming 70,000 (just over 2 million baht) as that was the minimum claim for it to go to court. The higher figures came from the lawyers. I don't believe that Mr. Unsworth's intention was to get mega-rich from the case. No that was just a trick in the wording and was in fact a minimum of $70,000 of course the lawyers would have got their cut but Unsworth would have the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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