Exclusive: Less than half of all Americans want Trump ousted post-impeachment - Reuters/Ipsos poll

[mogandave]

12 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

So President Trump has joined the rare club of the Impeached.

Way to go Donny boy.  I bet the late night entertainment industry will miss you when you are gone. I just hope the Democrats will find a better leader than Obama was.

He is a good speaker, but a bit of a dud as the leader he was forecast to be.

A lot like Trudeau of Canada. Mr. Black face, Sh*tface, Two face, or Mr Carbon Tax is not liked by many as well. My Opinion anyway.

 

Geezer

Good? Obama is a phenomenal speaker, as well as being good looking and charismatic. 
 

 

[Scott]

Off-topic, baiting post reported and removed.  

 

[thaibeachlovers]

12 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

"Followers" may be not a good translation. 

I refer to the ones who "admire" him. 

Don't include me in that. I support him now for the same reason I supported him before the last election- the Dems are so bad, IMO, they shouldn't be allowed, IMO, to rule the country. The last election it was just her that I didn't want to be elected, but the Dems have behaved so badly since, that I don't think any of the current lot deserve to be in charge- Biden, 5555555555555555. Warren, the fact she was even put up shows how bare the Dem's cupboard of potential POTUS's is. Bernie, his time passed the last election, and his heart attack should put him out of contention.

[jesimps]

Amazing how similar the situation is to that in the UK before the election where the Labour party were trying every dirty trick in the book to try and stop Brexit, the Brexit which the majority of the British people had voted for in the referendum. Like Labour, the US Democrats only care about their own lefty ambitions for stealing power and don't give a fig for the majority of the US people who voted for Mr Trump in the last election. Also like Labour, the US Democrats are absolute dross and I find it difficult to understand why any individual would ever even consider voting for them.

Edited December 20, 2019 by jesimps

[earlinclaifornia]

28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Most of us are well aware of limits, and probably do not believe that Trump has crossed the line of a "High Crime or Misdemeanor worthy of impeachment. For goodness sake, even Clinton hadn't done anything bad enough, IMO, and it was just a witch hunt by the GOP to remove him, IMO.

Far as I'm concerned there hasn't been a president in my adult life time ( except Carter ) that hasn't done some bad stuff along the line. Only ones bad enough to be impeached, IMO, were Reagan and Bush the younger, and no one even tried.

Speak for yourself the you say most of us. More than half Americans will not vote for him. https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/nearly-half-of-voters-say-they-won-t-vote-for-trump-in-20-75337285712

[rabas]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

If he loses he will scream "rigged election," just like he did a few days before the 2016 election when he thought he would lose.  He'll stonewall and scream "hoax" like he's doing now with his trial.  He'll refuse to leave the WH and not accept the successor.  Who is going to do anything about it?

You mean like screaming "the Russians rigged the election!" ? 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Speak for yourself the you say most of us. More than half Americans will not vote for him. https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/nearly-half-of-voters-say-they-won-t-vote-for-trump-in-20-75337285712

 

Polls said HRC won last election- how did that work out?

Polls mean nothing. The only "poll" that counts is the election, but you knew that didn't you?

 

The Dems only chance in an election against him is if the economy crashes or he starts a war that gets lots of Americans killed, IMO.

[earlinclaifornia]

11 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Same poll that said Hillary would win in 2016  ????

She did win the popular vote. She lost the Electorial college by a combined 77,000 votes. Good luck repeating that with 40% approval. Never has seen any positive approval rating. Just saying.

[earlinclaifornia]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Polls said HRC won last election- how did that work out?

Polls mean nothing. The only "poll" that counts is the election, but you knew that didn't you?

 

The Dems only chance in an election against him is if the economy crashes or he starts a war that gets lots of Americans killed, IMO.

Read this and weep: She did win the popular vote. She lost the Electorial college by a combined 77,000 votes. Good luck repeating that with 40% approval. Never has seen any positive approval rating. Just saying.

[mogandave]

16 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

"Followers" may be not a good translation. 

I refer to the ones who "admire" him. 

He is lying frequently, I suppose that's not a crime. 

Is his telephone call to be considered as a crime? 

We will never know, as there will not be an impartial judgement on it :

Guilty for Democrats, Not guilty for Republicans. 

 

I don’t admire him, and a lot of things I don’t like about him, but I am more concerned with what he has dine and it trying to do. 
 

Notice how the press tracks Trump’s “false and misleading claims” and calls them all lies. If Trump says it’s three o’clock when it’s half-past, it’s a lie! Mark one up. Trump says it’s pink and it’s really coral, it’s a lie, that’s  another one! Meanwhile, no one seems very concerned about the “false and misleading claims” those on the left are making. 
 

What, in your opinion, is the biggest and or most harmful lie he has told?
 

I don’t think the call was not illegal. If Trump was was attempting to get the the Ukrainian President to fabricate evidence and or put together a phony dossier to use against Biden (or most anyone) I think he should be kicked out of office. 
 

But asking to investigate corruption that was already in the news? Not so much. I doubt Biden did anything illegal and the investigation would likely show as much. 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

3 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

If he is not removed, does anyone seriously think that he will not try again?

Does anybody seriously think that was the first time?

 

I think the GOP senators should think about if they really want to give that guy a "get out of jail card". Because if they let him get away with that this means they let him get away with anything. And that should even scare the GOP politicians because (hopefully) there will be a world after Trump. Donald is capable of ruining this for all of us. And who will be blamed? The GOP for enabling and not stopping him.

[Kelsall]

23 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Speak for yourself the you say most of us. More than half Americans will not vote for him. https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/nearly-half-of-voters-say-they-won-t-vote-for-trump-in-20-75337285712

And it won't make any difference because as proved in the last election the electoral vote matters, not the popular vote.

[Kelsall]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Does anybody seriously think that was the first time?

 

I think the GOP senators should think about if they really want to give that guy a "get out of jail card". Because if they let him get away with that this means they let him get away with anything. And that should even scare the GOP politicians because (hopefully) there will be a world after Trump. Donald is capable of ruining this for all of us. And who will be blamed? The GOP for enabling and not stopping him.

Get away with what?  He didn't do anything wrong.

If you want him out of office, vote him out.

[OneMoreFarang]

3 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Get away with what?  He didn't do anything wrong.

Maybe you should watch the news from time to time. The facts are explained all over the news since a couple of months.

 

And I don't think about so call fox "news".

 

[spidermike007]

At the height of the Clinton impeachment, i believe the approval numbers were around 30%. So, 44 to 49% is very high (depending on which poll you believe). It is very high. Nearly half the nation thinks this guy is a crook, a con, a criminal, and a traitor. 

[Kelsall]

27 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

[Hillary] did win the popular vote. She lost the Electorial college ...

Agree.  Which is why Trump is president and she is not.

[rabas]

10 minutes ago, Tug said:

Bottom line this is not a good thing for trump it’s never good to be accused of abuse and obstruction the vast majority want a real trial were the principals will be forced to testify that doesent bold well for trump let’s hope Moscow Mitch is forced to do the correct thing 

But now Nancy doesn't want a trial, America Mitch and Trump do!

 

[melvinmelvin]

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

At the height of the Clinton impeachment, i believe the approval numbers were around 30%. So, 44 to 49% is very high (depending on which poll you believe). It is very high. Nearly half the nation thinks this guy is a crook, a con, a criminal, and a traitor. 

 

still he goes on to win the race and become POTUS

I would not be surprised (provided he survives this impeachment process) if he would win again, next year.

 

(during the last election campaign period polls in the US showed Clinton victory,

 in Europe some analysts predicted Trump win at a very early stage in the campaign period)

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, rabas said:

But now Nancy doesn't want a trial, America Mitch and Trump do!

 

Pelosi and America want a FAIR trial with key witnesses. 45 and McConnell want a fixed show trial. 

[sirineou]

53 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Same poll that said Hillary would win in 2016  ????

You guys keep harping about the 2016 poles being wrong.

They were not wrong. Hillary would have won if it wasn't for Comey !! The polls had no way of accounting for Comey.

[allen303]

45 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Speak for yourself the you say most of us. More than half Americans will not vote for him. https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/nearly-half-of-voters-say-they-won-t-vote-for-trump-in-20-75337285712

Actually, he is now leading in all the swing states to include Biden by 4 points. That’s where the election will be decided. 

Thank you Pelosi, a gift to Trump. She needs to worry more about that Shift hole SF in her district.

[allen303]

47 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

She did win the popular vote. She lost the Electorial college by a combined 77,000 votes. Good luck repeating that with 40% approval. Never has seen any positive approval rating. Just saying.

His is actually higher then Obamas was at this time. I hope you do understand how the electoral collage works right. You can take that popular vote (Cal and NY) and about a $1.50 to the coffee shop and get a cup of coffee!

[mogandave]

33 minutes ago, Tug said:

Bottom line this is not a good thing for trump it’s never good to be accused of abuse and obstruction the vast majority want a real trial were the principals will be forced to testify that doesent bold well for trump let’s hope Moscow Mitch is forced to do the correct thing 

I agree, that’s why I was shocked the Republicans were not allowed to call witnesses, particularly given the left’s long history of fairness.

[Tug]

58 minutes ago, rabas said:

You mean like screaming "the Russians rigged the election!" ? 

They certainly tryed and trump used it to btw also it’s exactly what’s he in trouble for soliciting foreign help in our election 

[rabas]

4 minutes ago, allen303 said:

His is actually higher then Obamas was at this time. I hope you do understand how the electoral collage works right. You can take that popular vote (Cal and NY) and about a $1.50 to the coffee shop and get a cup of coffee!

True. That was about the time of Obama's famous open mike comment asking Medvedev to inform Putin he can be more helpful after (if) he wins his next Election! Helpful about what? Ballistic missile treaties.

[allen303]

46 minutes ago, legend49 said:

Never read so much biased <deleted> here from Trump supporters. If you love him so much go home to USA and enjoy!

Nope, I think I will be back in Thailand in about a month for another 8 or so. If that’s alright with you?

 

But I have an idea, since you hate Trump, his supporters and probably the US. Why don’t you get over your TDS (take your meds) and worry about your own country? Don’t know which it is but from that statement no telling. Why don’t you give us a clue.

[elmrfudd]

4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

This headline is a bit misleading, and one poll should never be taken as gospel. If one were to look at an average of recent polls, it would show roughly more than half the US wants him gone, while slightly less than half wants him to stay. And, a large majority does want some kind of consequential sanction(s). Finally, this is a process that should not be guided by polling; it is a process that should follow the US Constitution.

 

The simple fact is that he tried to cheat in the upcoming American election by asking a foreign government for dirt on a likely political opponent and jeopardized American National Security by withholding funds previously and legally allocated by Congress. Further, he has not cooperated  in a constitutionally mandated process of Congressional Oversight; in fact he has illegally blocked that process.

 

If he is not removed, does anyone seriously think that he will not try again? Does anyone think that he has 'Learned his Lesson'?

 

I have said it before and sadly need to say it again;

 

Donald Trump is an ever-expanding cloud of toxic waste that defiles everything it touches.

 

Remove him and end the nightmare now!

 

 

 

 

Well, good to know that you are not extremely biased and are making these statements based on sober objective realistic thought.......... 

[zydeco]

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

The nightmare of more minorities in work than ever before? The nightmare of record employment numbers? The nightmare of a roaring economy? The nightmare of China agreeing to stop thefts of intellectual property and start buying US agriculture products? The nightmare of a lower tax burden for workers? 

 Might I suggest the only "nightmare" you have is the one where Madame President Hillary has her rightful victory snatched away from her by a reality TV host?

 It's been almost 4 years now! 

No, the nightmare of the most credit card debt ever. The largest debt ever hovering over student loans. Record corporate debt being used to pump up stock prices and turn on a fountain of money for executive bonuses, instead of innovating and investing in new products (see Boeing). A $23 trillion national debt. A phony deal with China that has no provision for enforcement other than Chinese promises, which they've already been giving for 30 years and never carried through (the Chinese, says Trump, will stop forced technology transfer; except they deny that they do force technology transfers; so they have agreed to stop doing something they say they're not doing in the first place!!!). And the nightmare of car loans which take 7 years to pay off and whose price would have bought you a very nice suburban home a generation ago. Wage increases for most all workers amounting to 2 to 3 percent, while health care, education, home prices and necessities soar over 20 percent increases at the same time. Banks that don't pay interest on savings, while charging you fees for so much as walking in the lobby and whose credit cards have interest rates of 23 percent. Nightmare of a phony Nafta deal that didn't change anything, except give some minor help to Wisconsin diary farms and protect Mickey Mouse's copyright extensions in Canada and Mexico. A nightmare of failed "negotiations" in Korea (both of them, now!!!), Syria, Turkey, Libya, the EU, Argentina and Brazil. A nightmare of a failure to oust the Venezuelan dictator. And the nightmare of a cheap dollar policy that will make most of our retirement money here in Thailand worth less. Yes, Trump is a nightmare. And so are his crooked kids and family.

[allen303]

27 minutes ago, sirineou said:

You guys keep harping about the 2016 poles being wrong.

They were not wrong. Hillary would have won if it wasn't for Comey !! The polls had no way of accounting for Comey.

I don’t like Comey, but he has way more problems with the ongoing investigation, better get a good team of lawyers.

 

 But Comey did not give her a personality of a rock. He did not place an illegal server in a basement bathroom. He did not forward classified Emails to her private unsecure server. He did not delete 30000 emails that were under subpoena, he did not then wipe the server with bleachBit, he did not destroy cell phone, blackberries and lap tops. She did that and no one else. What Comey did do was cover her ass and keep her from being indicted by a grand jury.

[elmrfudd]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe you should watch the news from time to time. The facts are explained all over the news since a couple of months.

 

And I don't think about so call fox "news".

 

Maybe you should be able to see the open bias of "the news" crafting a narrative instead of reporting the news. Both sides of it. But that doesn't meet your needs does it?