I do miss the good ole days when countries worked for years in secrecy to develop high tech weapons and then they worked for years to keep their new weapon "top secret".....

Edited December 29, 20196 yr by Catoholic

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/new-russian-weapon-can-travel-27-times-the-speed-of-sound/news-story/4ec1ce4866b51980375a1b90ad585b6d

On 12/28/2019 at 5:32 PM, car720 said:

Fools leading even bigger fools.

This is why man was created to die,  he could not have tolerated more.

Yes.

 

They  must  feel  so  insecure

On 12/28/2019 at 4:22 PM, puipuitom said:

From the end of the '40-s we heard again and again all these threads of Sovjet nuclear power. Every time it was proven to be a ghost story. Russia simply does not have the financial means anymore to keep us a big army, nor invest a lot in new technology.

China with is activities in the seas around till nearly at the shores of the ASEAN countries, their massive purchases of fertile land + raw materials areas in Africa, their influence in S+ SE Asia, and.. their much bigger GDP... I see as a much bigger thread.

Very inaccurate and based on a stunning lack of research. US bases would be totally unprepared for any sort of attack. You add in cyber warfare, billions spent on hacking and you have issues and problems the US military has nightmares about. The largest does not equate with the best. Rarely has it in the past. Also, keep in mind the US has not won a war of any importance, since 1945. That is 75 years. 

 

The U.S. military would have trouble quickly responding to such attacks because it is so unprepared for them. Most bases have few, if any, missile defense systems or hardened shelters. Combat aircraft and warships often are parked in the open, side by side. 

 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/20/russia-china-increasingly-able-attack-united-states-bases-networks-war/

 

 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Very inaccurate and based on a stunning lack of research. US bases would be totally unprepared for any sort of attack. You add in cyber warfare, billions spent on hacking and you have issues and problems the US military has nightmares about. The largest does not equate with the best. Rarely has it in the past. Also, keep in mind the US has not won a war of any importance, since 1945. That is 75 years. 

 

The U.S. military would have trouble quickly responding to such attacks because it is so unprepared for them. Most bases have few, if any, missile defense systems or hardened shelters. Combat aircraft and warships often are parked in the open, side by side. 

 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/20/russia-china-increasingly-able-attack-united-states-bases-networks-war/

 

 

 

The USA hasn't been involved in a war it had to win since 1945 either.

Off-topic post removed.

 

8 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

The USA hasn't been involved in a war it had to win since 1945 either.

I beg to differ. Korea and Vietnam were wars of consequence. So are Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. Yet, we managed to lose all five of those wars, despite the "power" of our military. Trillions spent. Hundreds of thousands of lives lost. Millions of lives lost in Vietnam, mostly at the hands of the Americans. What was gained from all that carnage and expense? Granted, it made the military contractors happy. Anything else? 

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

I beg to differ. Korea and Vietnam were wars of consequence. So are Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. Yet, we managed to lose all five of those wars, despite the "power" of our military. Trillions spent. Hundreds of thousands of lives lost. Millions of lives lost in Vietnam, mostly at the hands of the Americans. What was gained from all that carnage and expense? Granted, it made the military contractors happy. Anything else? 

 

All wars that weren't our fight. If a war comes up America must win it will do so handily.

How soon will Thailand order some of these new toys? An absolute must have for national security.

And the kick-backs would be just mouth watering. 

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Also, keep in mind the US has not won a war of any importance, since 1945. That is 75 years. 

Thats  because of their unwillingness to actually  use  nuclear weapons which really could  have  ended many of those  wars with no  hope for  the other  side

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Also, keep in mind the US has not won a war of any importance, since 1945. That is 75 years. 

Yes, it has. Perhaps the biggest of them all. The Cold War. It's just that Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now Trump have turned around and squandered the victory. BTW, what wars have Russia or China won? None, as far as I can remember. Not even the one they fought against each other back in the sixties. And the one thing that all of America's chicken<deleted> wars has at least managed to do is give us troops that know what it's like to be under fire. Nobody in China has that. And only a limited few in Russia, although Putin seems to be trying to turn Syria and Ukraine into his own version of live fire combat training.  These are not the Chinese of the Korean War, with 30 years of Civil War and Japanese invasion under their belt. Come the first bullet, they're as likely to be proven as soft as anyone in the West. Maybe softer. Because of China's one child policy, how many Chinese are going to sit well with their only child being sent off as cannon fodder?

On 12/28/2019 at 1:40 PM, Pravda said:

How about paying a few extra rubles for a better photoshop work?

no, everyone recognizes russias quality missiles,

especially their hypersonic missiles.

 

On 12/29/2019 at 10:10 PM, zydeco said:

Yes, it has. Perhaps the biggest of them all. The Cold War. 

 

Nobody won the Cold War.   It's nowhere near over.  There's just been a time-out.  Like in 1918-39.

 

Germany surrendered in 1918.  After 21 years of rebuilding their economy, re-arming and getting their military in order, the 2nd phase of that war started in 1939.  How long since the Russkies "surrendered"?

 

People who don't understand their history are doomed to repeat it.