5 hours ago, MaxYakov said:

You omitted the part about the sky's falling!

No! That is for people who believe in climate change foolishness.

39 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

The Western world seems to have managed the transition quite well, some years ago ...

With paper bags!

 

1 hour ago, Bundooman said:

Well, you could try one of those strange black garbage bags available in all outlets where you could, if the thought occured to you, dispose of your household trash!

They've only been around for about 20 years or more, so I guess you haven't spotted or used them yet.

The great thing about them is that they get collected weekly by the garbage disposal trucks you see around. (Or burned in the rural villages).

But the market stuff is a problem. Maybe we will all have to bring our own containers?

Waste food is easy to compost as well.

 

They are plastic! Plastic bags are banned, don't you know.

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

I just throw mine over the front gate into the mooban soi and someone comes round every morning and sweeps it up.

Putting down the sewer drains works well, includes feeding the rats. When it rains it also goes into the dead sea!

16 hours ago, fforest1 said:

Plastic is evil.....Throw you smart phones and computers in the trash....We need to get back to living in caves...

I don't know what you smoke but must be some good one.  Get with the freakin programm.

Until the government from all Asian countries provide better waste management practices and facilities, not to mention, changing the mentality of the people, plastic pollution will never stop.

It amuses me to see all these ( what about ) statements.

Yes there is still uses for the odd bit of plastic, but reducing their use is the outcome wanted.

I bought over a few cloth bags from Australia couple of years ago and use them every shopping trip. It’s an easy task.

Now don’t come training the Thais to do as such as an excuse.

Be a leader in this not a follower.

Yes, I think that it is a Very Good Idea, and I think despite my Retailer Friends Misgivings, that it probably will work.

 

Human Beings BEST survival reason, and also the Reason why we are such a successful species, is that we are very good at solving problems ! ... and dealing with Change .... If we have to !!!

 

I always think that in the Lotus Regional supermarket, where I can push the shopping trolley, right to my car, I actually do not need any bags at all ! ... Just pile the groceries straight from the Trolley in to my car, and then at home use a push cart to transfer them all right to my door, for stowing.

 

It is just when casually walking around, and Just "Picking up a couple of things" ... like in a local food market, ... or some where else, where you have no shopping trolley ! ... and your car is a long way away ! ... ... Like how do you carry them around, ... like walk around with a large bag over your solder ? like a Good Back Packer (Like my self) would ? ...  Well, YES, not at all a silly idea, just carrying a bag !!! ... You can keep you Map, Phone and other stuff in it also, as you go !!! Have one with 2 partitions, one for clean stuff and the other for ? ... Just a Bit Dirty stuff !!! ... and a nice on the out side, .... but washable on the inside bag. ... 

 

,,,  Like just a slight habit change Realy .... Every one will just have to remember and start carrying a bag !!!

 

And well in the fruit, food and Meat Markets ? Well time to get waterproof paper bags and Wrapping paper, and well also to be a bit tolerant about what you put in your own bag ! ... Like doing good for the Environment as well as Enjoying Life. ? ... Like have a smaller light, waterproof Bag, folded up in side your own bag ! ? ... and just wash it out when you get home. and have taken the meat or what ever out ?

 

It CAN be done and easily if People put their mind to it I think.

The biggest issue will be conflict avoidance by staff....they will continue to offer bags,despite what H.O. Might decree.

14 hours ago, Okis said:

Went to lotus today and was told that they don't give out plastic bags anymore, then he reached under the counter and picked up n gave me the usual plastic bag anyways. Was kind of a weird experience. 

 

 

Selling plastic bags in mine (officially), although they come with a handle.

14 hours ago, MyTHaiMyKe said:

People not only use plastic bags for groceries, but for garbage. What are we supposed to put our garbage in when we throw it out? There will be garbage everywhere on the streets now blowing around. What about paper bags? What about plastic bottles? What about the food at stands, that is all put in bags? Another Thai brilliant idea without thinking about the consequences.

 

If you look in any supermarket and many other stores they sell large, medium and small-sized sacks for rubbish. Made of plastic, of course, but they do provide the answer you're looking for.
As for it being another Thai brilliant idea, I think you would find that most, if not all, countries in Europe have had the same policy for many, many years and the streets are not full of garbage blowing around. Thailand is merely catching up. I don't know what the situation is in the USA and Australia.

Edited January 2, 20206 yr by Bangkok Barry

On the subject of Bags, and waist management, thinking ahead of the curve, and about what we are actually going to do with our Garbage, ... even if we do manage it !!! .... 

 

My Good German Environmentalist friends ! ... and in Europe I think that they were the ones that started it all off I think, ... Serious re cycling, are now all a bit upset, as the Problem there is getting the waist ACTUALLY recycled !

 

Like after you carefully separate in to 4 types of garbage bins that they have over there, ... the local governments say that they just can NOT recycle most of it, ... as it costs too much money to do it ?, ...  or there just are not facilities to do it, ...

 

...  So after meticulously sorting your waist in to paper, Bio, Plastic and recycling, and "Rest Mull" (Every thing else) Bins, .... most of it is now just thrown back in together again !!! ... 75% of all of it now they say, still just goes in to land fills !!! 

Edited January 2, 20206 yr by Mark mark
Simplified

When we were young there were no plastic bags and no one felt that going shopping and not being given them was a problem. There were sometimes paper bags offered but all shoppers took string bags or cloth bags with them.

10 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I don't know what the situation is in ... Australia.

Banned.

 

If you are given straws, why don’t you give them right back?

 

why do farangs become so brain dead in Asia? Can’t you be proactive? 

 

buy a nice $3 cloth bag and keep it with you....what’s so difficult about It...

2 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

buy a nice $3 cloth bag and keep it with you....what’s so difficult about It...

Spoils your street cred in a club at 5 am in the morning ????‍♂️

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

Ohh my, what a burden how ever will you cope ?

Don't be silly.  He said he has to buy trash bags now.  In what way does that reduce the amount of plastic in the environment?
What difference does it make if he buys them or gets them for "free" when shopping at TESCO?

14 hours ago, MyTHaiMyKe said:

Another Thai brilliant idea

Not a Thai idea.  An idea that has been copied and implemented in over 100 countries to date.

14 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Madness. Next could be a styrofoam ban, causing a serious famine as they can't bring their food home. 

Already banned on some islands and all national parks.  Koh Samed banned single use plastic and foam some time ago and is still working very well.

16 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

If you are given straws, why don’t you give them right back?

 

why do farangs become so brain dead in Asia? Can’t you be proactive? 

 

buy a nice $3 cloth bag and keep it with you....what’s so difficult about It...

It is a major lifestyle intrusion.  More important, it shifts the blame from the source (manufacturers) and blames the consumer for the maniacal view that a retailer ought to provide packaging for the goods he buys.  Why don't we stop putting milk in (plastic) boxes and just demand that consumers bring a bucket to take home their milk? This is just massive "virtue signaling" and does nothing to address the problem, while creating new problems in the process.

 

2 hours ago, chrissables said:

Why where biodegradable bags invented if they will ban there use?

They haven't.  Oxo-degradable plastic is banned by law.  Bio-degradable bags are fine.

21 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

If you are given straws, why don’t you give them right back?

 

why do farangs become so brain dead in Asia? Can’t you be proactive? 

 

buy a nice $3 cloth bag and keep it with you....what’s so difficult about It...

So, falang whose point of view differs from your are "brain dead"?  Well, isn't that special!

This could be a bit of a pain;

If I'm going shopping, I take bags,

There's always a cloth bag under the bike seat,

But if I'm out for the evening and just want to pick up a few things on the way home.......?

1 hour ago, MyTHaiMyKe said:

They are plastic! Plastic bags are banned, don't you know.

Only single use bags are banned.  Not all bags.  As for bin liners, bio-degradable bags have been available for some time.

1 hour ago, DennisE said:

Oh really Seven Eleven just gave me 3 big plastic bags yesterday afternoon just for two big bottles of water so apparently they didn’t get the memo. 

And by not refusing them makes you the same as the assistant. 

With regard to 7/11 and the like, it has become an automatic response to take a plastic bag.  They are doing it unconsciously.  They probably dream of reaching for a plastic bag.  I've often arrived at the counter in 7/11 and the assistant is reaching for a plastic bag even before they know what I'm purchasing.  The 'auto pilot' mode needs to be broken.

12 minutes ago, rexall said:

It is a major lifestyle intrusion.  More important, it shifts the blame from the source (manufacturers) and blames the consumer for the maniacal view that a retailer ought to provide packaging for the goods he buys.  Why don't we stop putting milk in (plastic) boxes and just demand that consumers bring a bucket to take home their milk? This is just massive "virtue signaling" and does nothing to address the problem, while creating new problems in the process.

 

Milk can be packaged in cardboard cartons which have been used in the past, or heaven forbid, in glass bottles.

There are stores popping up in the UK that sells liquid produce, i.e. shampoos, detergents etc, into customer's own containers.  There is a cost saving to the consumer.  My daughter uses these outlets regularly.

3 minutes ago, HHTel said:

And by not refusing them makes you the same as the assistant. 

With regard to 7/11 and the like, it has become an automatic response to take a plastic bag.  They are doing it unconsciously.  They probably dream of reaching for a plastic bag.  I've often arrived at the counter in 7/11 and the assistant is reaching for a plastic bag even before they know what I'm purchasing.  The 'auto pilot' mode needs to be broken.

You are right.   A few days back I saw someone in front on me in 7/11 getting their shopping put into plastic bags, then as soon as they left the shop and took a few steps they took what they bought out of the bags and just dropped all the plastic bags onto the street!!!!  

 

1. Why did they not tell the cashier they did not want the bags

2. Why did they just thrown the bags onto the floor in the street when there was a bin right outside the shop?!

 

It is kind of depressing seeing how many humans seem so stupid and selfish / lazy.  No wonder the environment and nature is suffering so much with brain dead people like that about.  

1 hour ago, Mark mark said:

Yes, I think that it is a Very Good Idea, and I think despite my Retailer Friends Misgivings, that it probably will work.

 

Human Beings BEST survival reason, and also the Reason why we are such a successful species, is that we are very good at solving problems ! ... and dealing with Change .... If we have to !!!

 

I always think that in the Lotus Regional supermarket, where I can push the shopping trolley, right to my car, I actually do not need any bags at all ! ... Just pile the groceries straight from the Trolley in to my car, and then at home use a push cart to transfer them all right to my door, for stowing.

 

It is just when casually walking around, and Just "Picking up a couple of things" ... like in a local food market, ... or some where else, where you have no shopping trolley ! ... and your car is a long way away ! ... ... Like how do you carry them around, ... like walk around with a large bag over your solder ? like a Good Back Packer (Like my self) would ? ...  Well, YES, not at all a silly idea, just carrying a bag !!! ... You can keep you Map, Phone and other stuff in it also, as you go !!! Have one with 2 partitions, one for clean stuff and the other for ? ... Just a Bit Dirty stuff !!! ... and a nice on the out side, .... but washable on the inside bag. ... 

 

,,,  Like just a slight habit change Realy .... Every one will just have to remember and start carrying a bag !!!

 

And well in the fruit, food and Meat Markets ? Well time to get waterproof paper bags and Wrapping paper, and well also to be a bit tolerant about what you put in your own bag ! ... Like doing good for the Environment as well as Enjoying Life. ? ... Like have a smaller light, waterproof Bag, folded up in side your own bag ! ? ... and just wash it out when you get home. and have taken the meat or what ever out ?

 

It CAN be done and easily if People put their mind to it I think.

Markmark, you sound like a docile drone that any govt would love.

 

you must comply ! rules are rules (even if they are stupid and didn't make them or have any say in them) OBEY  No thinking.

 

 

43 minutes ago, Salerno said:

Banned.

 

Or you have to pay 20c ? or maybbe more for them possibly ? ... It was like then for a while I think, but I do not know about it now. ?