Australian fiance visa

[MADMANMUZZA]

Hi,

 

Just looking for advice as to which direction my thai girlfriend and I should take to permanently move her to Australia. 

We've been together for 8 months and my plan is to propose marriage in August. 

I am in the ADF and will be deployed to the middle east from March till October but will have a holiday to see her in Thailand in August. 

 

If I propose in August and we immediately begin the fiance visa application, how long will it take to process? Will she be in Australia by Christmas?

 

Is there a smarter way to do this?

 

Keep in mind that we already attempted a tourist visa which was rejected due to them not being satisfied she had a good enough reason to return home. This is because she doesn't have an income as such and is paid cash by her mother to work at the market. 

 

Should I engage before I deploy in March? 

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 

[Will27]

Unless she get's a visitor visa, she won't be in Oz at Xmas.

 

The current processing times are between 17 and 20 months I'm sorry to say.

[tifino]

and being on longer term repeated Deployment, will while away the time 

 

A Posting to Butterworth would be a handy tool for you too! 

[Peterw42]

OP, you would be better off just concentrating on a tourist visa for later in the year, then look at a application/bridging visa etc when you are both in Australia together. The burden of proof and difficulty will be far less for a visitor visa than a resident/fiance visa.

For the tourist Visa you will need to concentrate on proof of relationship and proof of employment, just saying fiance means nothing, they want photos, emails etc. If your GF works at a market, submit photos of her at work, a copy of the market stall lease, a letter from the market owner etc. 

Maybe look into using an agent for the initial visitor visa.

Edited January 4, 2020 by Peterw42

[Will27]

21 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

OP, you would be better off just concentrating on a tourist visa for later in the year, then look at a application/bridging visa etc when you are both in Australia together. The burden of proof and difficulty will be far less for a visitor visa than a resident/fiance visa.

For the tourist Visa you will need to concentrate on proof of relationship and proof of employment, just saying fiance means nothing, they want photos, emails etc. If your GF works at a market, submit photos of her at work, a copy of the market stall lease, a letter from the market owner etc. 

Maybe look into using an agent for the initial visitor visa.

The OP's girlfriend has already had a visitor visa refused.

 

The chances of her getting a first time visa without 8503 (No Further Stay) would be extremely 

remote IMO.

[Peterw42]

2 minutes ago, Will27 said:

The OP's girlfriend has already had a visitor visa refused.

 

The chances of her getting a first time visa without 8503 (No Further Stay) would be extremely 

remote IMO.

My GF was refused first time around, similar circumstance to the OP as she only worked at her market stall etc. The next application was approved ok without 8503. I know what you are saying but so long as the next application is solid it shouldn't be a problem.

I think an agent would be the way to go.

[Will27]

Just now, Peterw42 said:

My GF was refused first time around, similar circumstance to the OP as she only worked at her market stall etc. The next application was approved ok without 8503. I know what you are saying but so long as the next application is solid it shouldn't be a problem.

I think an agent would be the way to go.

How long ago was that?

It's not common at all.

 

If I was the OP, I would just be lodging his partner application ASAP.

Then I would apply for the visitor visa.

 

Unless you're no good with paperwork, I wouldn't be using an agent,

especially for a visitor visa.

 

[thasoss]

Apply again for a tourist visa after you have established a longer relationship.

you have to establish the following:

 

 

Length of relationship (keep history of emails,social media messages,travel like airline tickets when traveling together,and photo's together with dates taken if possible.

You will need to provide a letter guaranteeing finances to take care of her(bank statements from home bank accounts.)

She will need to prove that she has reason to return to thailand.

family reasons like young children,work(letter from employer) ownership of house and land.

Also bank statements from her bank showing a healthy bank balance.

The most important of all these is "a reason to return to thailand after the holiday in australia.

Good luck,dont get depressed about all this,just take it one step at a time.

[thasoss]

9 minutes ago, Will27 said:

How long ago was that?

It's not common at all.

 

If I was the OP, I would just be lodging his partner application ASAP.

Then I would apply for the visitor visa.

 

Unless you're no good with paperwork, I wouldn't be using an agent,

especially for a visitor visa.

 

good point about lodging the partner application

[Will27]

13 minutes ago, thasoss said:

Apply again for a tourist visa after you have established a longer relationship.

you have to establish the following:

 

 

Length of relationship (keep history of emails,social media messages,travel like airline tickets when traveling together,and photo's together with dates taken if possible.

You will need to provide a letter guaranteeing finances to take care of her(bank statements from home bank accounts.)

She will need to prove that she has reason to return to thailand.

family reasons like young children,work(letter from employer) ownership of house and land.

Also bank statements from her bank showing a healthy bank balance.

The most important of all these is "a reason to return to thailand after the holiday in australia.

Good luck,dont get depressed about all this,just take it one step at a time.

8 months is generally sufficient for a visitor visa.

It's hard to know precisely why the application was refused without seeing the refusal letter.

 

Just one thing, she doesn't need a "healthy" bank balance.

As long at the boyfriend says he will be financing the holiday

and provides documentation, that will be enough.

[thasoss]

7 minutes ago, Will27 said:

8 months is generally sufficient for a visitor visa.

It's hard to know precisely why the application was refused without seeing the refusal letter.

 

Just one thing, she doesn't need a "healthy" bank balance.

As long at the boyfriend says he will be financing the holiday

and provides documentation, that will be enough.

True.When i applied for a tourist visa for my lady,i did those things just as extra buffer...we had no problems,a week after applying she got a call from the australian embassy who wanted to verify that the person answering their call was in fact the same person on the application form

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PhanomR]

12 hours ago, MADMANMUZZA said:

Is there a smarter way to do this?

Yes, not talk about deployment on public forum. 

 

Apply for the PMV whenever suits, and then apply for a tourist visa, noting such PMV application.