EricTh Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr Dome said: Eric, none of the things you mentioned here apply or were done by me. It doesn't fit here. This is about ducking under the crowd-flow tape leading to the immigration booths, which in this case were 100% deserted. Nothing else. Yes, I agree it is quite minor in western culture but I was stressing point number 4 which is Thai government officers are very strict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Dome Posted January 5, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: Would you want their occupation? At times dealing with obnoxious hordes from wherever? And then you come at a time of quiet and not unjustifiably do same as but are "corralled" by the ability to inflict personal authority . You provided an opportunity for human nature to express itself. ???? Bad doggy ! lol Most can handle it fine. It's about this one IO with the short hair and high testosterone. If you use your job as an excuse to step on people and to rage at them because you can get away with it, you're just an AH. Not saying these don't exist in the west also. BTW, I have nothing but good experiences with US IO's. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmen Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Outstanding work IO. nothing pisses me off more than que jumpers at airports and I dont care if Im the only person in line !! 3 sides to every story and 100% OP cut someone off They have a nightmare job with chinese and indians que jumping she was probably in shock to see stupid farang doing it` I bet thats the last time OP does that. I bet he was <deleted>ting himslef for a while there 55555555 Edited January 5, 2020 by madmen 3 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Maybe PMT I get the same crocodile response in my house every 28 days especially if I duck something???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dome Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, EricTh said: Yes, I agree it is quite minor in western culture but I was stressing point number 4 which is Thai government officers are very strict. Fair enough. I've been coming to Thailand since 1999, used to live there from 2001 - 2004, never had an issue. I have, however once accompanied a monk from Bhutan to immigration, who had told me they had treated him very disrespectfully (a monk!) on a previous visit. It went much better with me there. I guess, she wanted to keep face and not do it with a witness being there. But that falls under the trait of "what isn't Thai doesn't reserve much respect" which *some* Thais have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Dome said: Most can handle it fine. It's about this one IO with the short hair and high testosterone. If you use your job as an excuse to step on people and to rage at them because you can get away with it, you're just an AH. Not saying these don't exist in the west also. BTW, I have nothing but good experiences with US IO's. I can say exactly the opposite. My first experience with a US female I O was bizzare ! In fact I would say further in my experience is that Asian "officials" are mostly very polite although as Authoritarian as they are permitted to be. Not so many western officials who can b extrordinarily just plain nasty . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Dome Posted January 5, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, madmen said: Outstanding work IO. nothing pisses me off more than que jumpers at airports and I dont care if Im the only person in line !! 3 sides to every story and 100% OP cut someone off 100% untrue statement. Not a soul between us and the booths. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yogi100 Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, LomSak27 said: Yes but they did not use to do that. They Are really going over the top. BTW I was insulted, or made snarky comments to in northern dialect when getting my reentry two months back. My long time G is form C Rai but she was sitting down and I was by myself at the counter. He figured hey just a little fun with the farang. It's a cultural thing. I said nothing and tight smiled but I stepped back from the counter and waited. It of course made him even more surly, BUT HEY. I'm actually dressed nicely, acting polite etc. and this is what I get.One of my New Year Resolutions - Make sure you have an exit strategy/plan lined up, as we are on a downward spiral. Better safe than sorry A very wise move. Although I just holiday in Pattaya I have a room in a cheap hotel that I keep on 12 months a year. In 15 years I've accumulated a lot of stuff. I'm starting to sort out what I want to take home with me and that which will be of little use to me in the UK, I'll leave that behind. Things like toasters, microwaves and kettles I will give to my ex pat chums when I decide to call it a day with the Land of Scowls which I don't think will be very far in the future. I'm just glad that I never burned my bridges and came to live in Thailand back in the halcyon days like some of my more impetuous chums did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Dome said: Fair enough. I've been coming to Thailand since 1999, used to live there from 2001 - 2004, never had an issue. I have, however once accompanied a monk from Bhutan to immigration, who had told me they had treated him very disrespectfully (a monk!) on a previous visit. It went much better with me there. I guess, she wanted to keep face and not do it with a witness being there. But that falls under the trait of "what isn't Thai doesn't reserve much respect" which *some* Thais have. A person wearing the costume of a monk is subject to the normal procedures none less. That that individual was disappointed he did not get the reverence he presumed is his problem. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mr Dome said: Hers or ours? The other two were in their 20's, I'm in my 50's, long sleeves & pants, no tats, look like a nerd ... I doubt it was our appearance. Trousers too might have helped ( ???? ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi100 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: A person wearing the costume of a monk is subject to the normal procedures none less. That that individual was disappointed he did not get the reverence he presumed is his problem. It's not his problem. The problem lies with some of the rude ignorant pigs they've got working as IOs who are often the first Thai people visitors to the LOS encounter. First impressions count and are not easily forgotten if they are unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Dome Posted January 5, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: A person wearing the costume of a monk is subject to the normal procedures none less. That that individual was disappointed he did not get the reverence he presumed is his problem. Not "reverence" mate. Everyone has the right to be treated respectfully, as you wrote yourself. Anyway, that's just a side story here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, yogi100 said: It's not his problem. The problem lies with some of the rude ignorant pigs they've got working as IOs who are often the first Thai people visitors to the LOS encounter. First impressions count and are not easily forgotten if they are unpleasant. Not really. The OP suggested that this Bhutan Monk was not happy about the attitude of Thai Immigration as if he expected some greater recognition . I once witnessed a young Thai "Monk" who was escorting a person I would assume was of Indian nationality at Swampy. This yound monk in very fresh robes was enthusiastically attempting to assist the Other in obtaining a re entry permit as I was as wel as two young Asians. This "monk" asked where to get the forms for re entry. In English. One of the young Asians pointed towars a door way and said "in there". The person needing the form went to get. In the meantime this young monk berated the other two about having "no respect" for himself as a monk. I was left thinking about his urgent desire to make sure this sucker came back to supply patent greed. The two other Asians were Malaysian Muslims which is why they too needed a re entry permit. But I doubt that experience enhanced any reason for them to respect a pimply faced monkey in orange robes any more than myself ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tounge Thaied Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, madmen said: Outstanding work IO. nothing pisses me off more than que jumpers at airports and I dont care if Im the only person in line !! 3 sides to every story and 100% OP cut someone off They have a nightmare job with chinese and indians que jumping she was probably in shock to see stupid farang doing it` I bet thats the last time OP does that. I bet he was <deleted>ting himslef for a while there 55555555 This is a great point. If there is no one around, no harm to jump the tape. But if we are being honest with ourselves, when there are others, nothing pisses you off to see line jumpers. So the IO is only doing what is right. From their point of view, they either enforce the line jumping always or not at all. Don't expect some preferential treatment just because their was no one with you in the line at the time. Don't expect them to evaluate the entire breadth of the rope line to see if there is anyone else in there before jumping your ass. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy 1st hand reports of the Thai welcoming committee... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 I ducked under the ropes once, again no one was in front of me and the IO went ballistic, made me duck back under the ropes and do the up and down the lines bit, they really have nothing better to do but when they have a very little brain if any and no intelligence anything makes them spit the dummy, delusions of grandeur with all of them, they actually think they are important 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post balo Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 IO did the right thing , you tried to cheat the systen No sympathy here. 5 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 hours ago, ukrules said: You don't explain why or what you were visiting for so there's no context. To marry her Sister? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chazar Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: A person wearing the costume of a monk is subject to the normal procedures none less. Really so when I enter the fasttrack lane at the Airport why is there a sign for Monks to also use this lane for free...............normal procedure eh 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LukKrueng Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Mr Dome said: they had gotten humid & stinky while in storage WHERE did you store them??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 Ducking under the tape, not following protocol and stepping outside the very small box of convention here is frowned upon to the extreme. And never forget, the immigration officers care not one iota for western tourists, consider us a nuisance, and will flex their muscles, if given the most marginal of opportunities. They are some of my least favorite people in the country. So, best to not provoke them. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 * making mental note to duck under every tape i can find next arrival.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I jumped the rope once while on a visa run with a guide. The guide panicked and said the IO would beat him but fortunately they did not see me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Antonymous Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Mr Dome said: I was there for a Buddhist course but this is just a minor detail here, hence me leaving it out. But it is important in the context. So, you should have pointed out that you were following the middle path. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorchiangmai Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 You should know by now that there is a box, but people are not allowed to think outside of it. So this crowd flow line is not to be crossed, not even with nobody else in front of you. And if a Immigration officer was standing close to it , its also showing disrespect. Adding to the fact you had money even from another country handled disrespectful also is asking for the same treatment you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonray Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Mr Dome said: After I went all the way left and right 4, 5 times, I decide to duck under the stretch tape, after all there is nobody and I'm not cutting the line. One of the other lads does the same. I do this one more time and then she appears: If you do that entering Newark/New York airports these days you will be sent back without much fanfare. I've seen people pull out their phones after being told to put them away once and they get dragged out of line and interrogated....simply follow the rules when attempting to enter a foreign country and you'll have fewer issues. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post legend49 Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 And the Thais who rely on tourism wonder why tourists are not coming here any more. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, seajae said: I ducked under the ropes once, again no one was in front of me and the IO went ballistic, made me duck back under the ropes and do the up and down the lines bit, they really have nothing better to do but when they have a very little brain if any and no intelligence anything makes them spit the dummy, delusions of grandeur with all of them, they actually think they are important Well clearly you recognized their importance as you complied with their directions. Im shocked you did not excersize your rights and refuse to do what they say, or call them idiots or something to show how RIGHT you are compared to them. But no, just like a chastened little child you complied. Bet your cheeks were burning as the Thai IO (oMG maybe a woman) just chewed your ass out in front of people while you meekly begged for forgiveness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, legend49 said: And the Thais who rely on tourism wonder why tourists are not coming here any more. I do. Every year. Just stroll on in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongjaw Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 12 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: Singaporean IOs and the Arab countries that I've visited are generally the opposite. Smiling and courteous !! Strange but true ???? Try ducking under the walk around barrier at Immigration in Singapore coming off the ferry from Batam. You will soon see the smile come off the IO’s face. I did it once and never have again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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