I'm not feeling the love anymore.

[Puchaiyank]

And then you have the posters who claim everyone smiles at them...always gives them back the correct change...immigration greets them like an old friend...and girls can not wait to jump in bed with them for free...

 

One of you is delusional!   ☺

[URMySunshine]

They lost a much loved King , they lost 2 much loved leader(s) (or at least 50%) did , they had an election stolen , they see Chinese , Indian and Russians enjoying themselves 'on holiday' when they stagger from pay day to pay day , the air is turning to shiite , monks are corrupt as they have ever been , and prices are up , up , up. But apart from that it still The Land of Smiles. If my wife wasn't Thai with family I would have gone long ago for much better places. When it was cheap it was good enough now it isn't it's lost it's USP big time.

[URMySunshine]

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

So where are you planning to go to next? Would be interested to learn of better destinations. 

Home in Europe , where stuff works and the air is clean. It's called civilization. 

[Matzzon]

Just a question. Is all Liverpool fans this positive, or is this guy an exception?

[Mitkof Island]

1 hour ago, Mansell said:

I think a lot of this stuff depends on where you live. I find people here in Korat just fine, mostly pretty friendly. My Thai neighbor Tom comes over with his kid to play table tennis with us. Him and other neighbor brought us some food which we reciprocated. We have only lived here in this house since mid November. Most of the people I deal with in the city in the Malls always friendly to me. It is still the land of smiles for me. Sometimes we need to look in the mirror and see what we are projecting out to the world.....then we will know why we get what we get. Congrats on Liverpool.....seem to be setting new records every week.

Could not have said it better. Depends on where you live and a good look in the mirror.

[Mitkof Island]

15 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:

Home in Europe , where stuff works and the air is clean. It's called civilization. 

Good you stay away. The Thais savages might invite you over for dinner. I would not want to be on their menu if i were you.

[Mitkof Island]

24 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

And then you have the posters who claim everyone smiles at them...always gives them back the correct change...immigration greets them like an old friend...and girls can not wait to jump in bed with them for free...

 

One of you is delusional!   ☺

Most do smile at me. Thai Immigration has always been polite and respectful and i have no issues meeting friendly FREE women. Maybe its just you and the other Thai haters . You think?

[Lacrimas]

I live in the wild countryside, 2 hours drive from Chiang Mai, and things here are like 20 years ago in Chiang Mai. People all smiles offering me fruit and to eat together all the time. It helps that I speak Thai though.

[bwpage3]

Why do people move 1000's of miles away from their home country, on their accord, then bitch and complain about the country they move to?

 

Makes no sense what so ever.

 

Economic times are tough for 95% of the Thai's and if I was in that boat, I probably wouldn't smile too much either.

 

Rising costs, pollution, drought.

 

It is not like the average Thai will ever get relief from any of these things.

 

People in the cities are grinding it out trying to survive.

 

If there were the same opportunities in Isaan these people wouldn't be away from their homes and village, but the jobs in Isaan don't pay enough to survive.

 

Still love my wife's village. 

 

When I go, try to do good things, be a good person.

 

Thailand doesn't owe you anything.

 

It was your choice to move and you can always move again.

Edited January 14, 2020 by bwpage3

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

I live in the wild countryside, 2 hours drive from Chiang Mai, and things here are like 20 years ago in Chiang Mai. People all smiles offering me fruit and to eat together all the time. It helps that I speak Thai though.

To me, the world appears a better place for those with lesser thinking abilities.

Sometimes I wish I were stupid like nearly everyone else.

Forrest Gump was hardly ever unhappy.

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

Why do people move 1000's of miles away from their home country, on their accord, then bitch and complain about the country they move to?

My brief suggested I left the UK until the police lost interest in me.

I agreed it was a good idea.

[Lacrimas]

2 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

Why do people move 1000's of miles away from their home country, on their accord, then bitch and complain about the country they move to?

 

Makes no sense what so ever.

 

Economic times are tough for 95% of the Thai's and if I was in that boat, I probably wouldn't smile too much either.

 

Rising costs, pollution, drought.

 

It is not like the average Thai will ever get relief from any of these things.

 

People in the cities are grinding it out trying to survive.

 

If there were the same opportunities in Isaan these people wouldn't be away from their homes and village, but the jobs in Isaan don't pay enough to survive.

 

Still love my wife's village. 

 

When I go, try to do good things, be a good person.

 

Thailand doesn't owe you anything.

 

It was your choice to move and you can always move again.

Not entirely correct. They move to the cities because they are sold the fake dream that the cities can give them big money and they invest all their savings and efforts in that fake dream so they can't come back to the village life.

 

Thai people are starting to realize that even if you make more money in Bangkok the cost of living is 4 times higher than living in a village so many are coming back to live simpler but healthier lifestyles. This is at least what I have observed.

[at15]

laid off, broke, breathing polluted air, and loading up on MSG to cope. 

[Lacrimas]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

To me, the world appears a better place for those with lesser thinking abilities.

Sometimes I wish I were stupid like nearly everyone else.

Forrest Gump was hardly ever unhappy.

Totally agree with you. I see my neighbors... they live with the money from the welfare card (1000 baht a month) and work 10 days a month for 300 baht a day but they are happy and the remaining 20 days they lay in a hammock smoking a handmade cigarette. Are we sure we westerners got life right with our obsession over money?

[ChaiyaTH]

6 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

Are we sure we westerners got life right with our obsession over money?

Thais are more obsessed with money as far I seen. And yes, I am sure life is better with more than 4000 baht a month
(even you do X3 in spending power compared to home, it is still only 12K baht). 

Some people might look like they enjoy themselves with a handmade cigarette in a hammock
but it just comes down to the fact that they can't do anything else + they are used to those finances / living like that. 
Being uneducated also helps to not really know there is another world out there + be easily entertained.

Edited January 14, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, Tagged said:

You should try Spain! Made 3 trips the last 13 months, and enough is enough! Never go back there. Not only the locals, but the expats there as well,,,,,,,,, who influenced who for this hostile stand off? Spain used to be a poor country, now they just want to <deleted> off everyone back to their home countries. 

 

Found som few places, that still had its charm, but not to many

Actually I did, just last month. Went for a month to the Costa Dorada through Barcelona. It was as dead as a haddock being closed season but we didn't experience any unpleasantness. Maybe because it's quite an affluent area and not the Costa del Crime. Where where you?

[ChaiyaTH]

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

To me, the world appears a better place for those with lesser thinking abilities.

Sometimes I wish I were stupid like nearly everyone else.

Forrest Gump was hardly ever unhappy.

Pff, you make a hardcore point there. I wish to be stupid many times, I would not care to drive with my kid on a motorbike and save on the car / taxi's. 
I would not care about the pesticides in my food, I would not care about the pollution in the air and other than that just drink whiskey and mess around all day long.

Being stupid and ignorant can be heavenly indeed. Knowing reality makes life much more sour.
Like the first time in Thailand in a gogo, it was like heaven and everyone really liked me, all the girls loved me + they really were not after my money.

Edited January 14, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[Gweiloman]

5 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Thais are more obsessed with money as far I seen. And yes, I am sure life is better with more than 4000 baht a month
(even you do X3 in spending power compared to home, it is still only 12K baht). 

Some people might look like they enjoy themselves with a handmade cigarette in a hammock
but it just comes down to the fact that they can't do anything else either.

Well, I know a lot of poor Thai farmers and do spend time with them. They seem a lot happier than a lot of the rich farangs on TVF. 

[Lacrimas]

3 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Thais are more obsessed with money as far I seen. And yes, I am sure life is better with more than 4000 baht a month
(even you do X3 in spending power compared to home, it is still only 12K baht). 

Some people might look like they enjoy themselves with a handmade cigarette in a hammock
but it just comes down to the fact that they can't do anything else + they are used to those finances / living like that. 
Being uneducated also helps to not really know there is another world out there + be easily entertained.

My question for you is, why do you need more than 4000 baht a month if your living expenses are lower than that? They eat chili paste, fish in the rivers, eat fruits from their orchard. All these things are free.

 

Do you think that the latest Hilux gives you happiness? A beautiful house?

 

Isn't life about having a roof over your head and food in your plate? They have that and they are happy with it.

[Lacrimas]

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

Well, I know a lot of poor Thai farmers and do spend time with them. They seem a lot happier than a lot of the rich farangs on TVF. 

Absolutely correct. Smile on their faces even if they don't even have a car or a fancy smartphone.

[ChaiyaTH]

2 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Well, I know a lot of poor Thai farmers and do spend time with them. They seem a lot happier than a lot of the rich farangs on TVF. 

So you compare it with a few complainers on TVF and generalise that to westerners being? You are really funny lol.
I know many farmers being super unhappy + heavily indebted too. I think more than there are happy ones. Nonsense talk this.

Edited January 14, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[bwpage3]

10 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

Not entirely correct. They move to the cities because they are sold the fake dream that the cities can give them big money and they invest all their savings and efforts in that fake dream so they can't come back to the village life.

 

Thai people are starting to realize that even if you make more money in Bangkok the cost of living is 4 times higher than living in a village so many are coming back to live simpler but healthier lifestyles. This is at least what I have observed.

How many people in Isaan never finished past grade 4 or 5?

 

They are not smart enough to think about anything more than surviving and how much they can earn.

 

Many moved from Isaan to work in the factories only to learn the hard way 6,000 thb doesn't go very far and leaves them in a depressed state.

 

In Isaan you can work in the fields for 200 baht a day.

 

What else is there to do for work?

 

The answer is nothing and field work is seasonal at best.

 

So many head off into the city to make a little more and it is only a little more

 

City costs are high but if you know Isaan people they are all living 10 to a room so the cost is mitigated

 

Still they are not making anything, which is why they are so depressed and unhappy.

 

They learn the hard way that they have no education or skill to earn more

 

Coming back to the village means you still need money to survive.

 

 

 

 

[ChaiyaTH]

4 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

My question for you is, why do you need more than 4000 baht a month if your living expenses are lower than that? They eat chili paste, fish in the rivers, eat fruits from their orchard. All these things are free.

 

Do you think that the latest Hilux gives you happiness? A beautiful house?

 

Isn't life about having a roof over your head and food in your plate? They have that and they are happy with it.

Yes I would still want more than that, I do have the things you describe for free too. The latest BMW does certainly make me more happy, a nice house too.
The best part is the extra money to take holidays and do whatever I like, whenever I want. 

Does that mean you can not be happy without it? No. But I am pretty much sure I rather live life as I describe, when possible, and it is possible.
Try telling the farmers they can get 1 million but you won't give it to them as they are happy already, I am curious to their reply.

Edited January 14, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, ChaiyaTH said:

So you compare it with a few complainers on TVF and generalise that to westerners being? You are really funny lol.
I know many farmers being super unhappy + heavily indebted too. I think more than there are happy ones. Nonsense talk this.

I knew a young Thai guy (builder) in his 20s with a wife and two daughters.

He strangled himself a couple of months back because he couldn't compete with the Burmese builders who will work for 150bht/day.

[ChaiyaTH]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I knew a young Thai guy (builder) in his 20s with a wife and two daughters.

He strangled himself a couple of months back because he couldn't compete with the Burmese builders who will work for 150bht/day.

And many others do like him but if you tell that here, it is not true because all farmers are happy. They speak like the prime minister, should be happy without money while they have roasts in 5 star hotels.

Guess they still haven't gotten a clue, that people pretend to be happy, as discussing trouble is not OK. People live here for decades but I guess they still not get that part of Thai culture, you always say you are more or less OK and keep everything else to yourself. That is why suicide rates are high too.

Edited January 14, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[Mitkof Island]

23 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

Why do people move 1000's of miles away from their home country, on their accord, then bitch and complain about the country they move to?

 

Makes no sense what so ever.

 

Economic times are tough for 95% of the Thai's and if I was in that boat, I probably wouldn't smile too much either.

 

Rising costs, pollution, drought.

 

It is not like the average Thai will ever get relief from any of these things.

 

People in the cities are grinding it out trying to survive.

 

If there were the same opportunities in Isaan these people wouldn't be away from their homes and village, but the jobs in Isaan don't pay enough to survive.

 

Still love my wife's village. 

 

When I go, try to do good things, be a good person.

 

Thailand doesn't owe you anything.

 

It was your choice to move and you can always move again.

The best post of the day if not 2020 so far. I could not have said it better. So many miserable foreigners here yet they refuse to leave. Many theories as to why but i think i know the core reasons. Best not mention them here. The truth hurts !

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

Coming back to the village means you still need money to survive.

Not necessarily true, the stick hut can be built on family land for nothing, and you can live by farming, hunting and gathering, the way they always did in the past. It might not be a great life, but people have lived that way for thousands of years. My girlfriend was brought up to live that life by her parents until she was a teenager, and she can slip right back into hunting and gathering when she's back in the jungle.

[Lacrimas]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Not necessarily true, the stick hut can be built on family land for nothing, and you can live by farming, hunting and gathering, the way they always did in the past. It might not be a great life, but people have lived that way for thousands of years. My girlfriend was brought up to live that life by her parents until she was a teenager, and she can slip right back into hunting and gathering when she's back in the jungle.

True, and the welfare card at least pays enough to bring food on the table twice a day for a family of two. 

[ChaiyaTH]

12 minutes ago, Lacrimas said:

Absolutely correct. Smile on their faces even if they don't even have a car or a fancy smartphone.

You are aware of how the smile works in Thailand? And that it has many meanings? Even for being sad or angry there is a smile.

Also, Thais most times have the latest phones and cars, that westerns do not, even the latter could afford them 10x easier.
As soon they can get it, they will too, except maybe the oldies.

Edited January 14, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[Mitkof Island]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Not necessarily true, the stick hut can be built on family land for nothing, and you can live by farming, hunting and gathering, the way they always did in the past. It might not be a great life, but people have lived that way for thousands of years. My girlfriend was brought up to live that life by her parents until she was a teenager, and she can slip right back into hunting and gathering when she's back in the jungle.

And these Thais could out survive any foreigners if need be. I spent most of my life in the Alaskan wilderness . Curious how many of these TV moaners would last a day where i come from. Some of you guys really need to grow a pair. Stop moaning. There is likely a plane leaving on the hour. I suggest you book a ticket now. You won,t last much longer with your attitudes and the Thais are tired of it.