Thailand confirms six new cases of coronavirus, including four Thais - health ministry

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, BRUFC said:

I must admit I hadn't considered the lack of reaction from that quarter. I wonder why the silence?

It's called sitting back & giving Prayut &Co enough rope to hang themselves.

No need to push.... they'll trip soon enough!

[toofarnorth]

17 hours ago, DLock said:

"But if we can contain the virus by the end of February...."

 

Right now, Thailand is at a fork in the road and they know it.

 

Close the border to China, focus on local containment and possibly save your country.

 

Or keep letting the walking dead in, brew your own virus source, be banned by every other country and suffer the consequences...

 

Your call Prayut...think carefully...you get one chance.

........keep letting the walking dead in .     Sounds a bit harsh .  Don't let any in I say.

[Damrongsak]

The one on the left looks a little sickly. The one on the right - is that thing poking out on the right a virus or are you just glad to see me? Sorry, can't resist Thai gals.

 

[poohy]

Ugh! Panic!

Got a flight back to UK on 30 March dont fancy 14 days in quarantine i guess there's no beer fish n chips and indian curry provide there

[Canuck1966]

1 minute ago, poohy said:

Ugh! Panic!

Got a flight back to UK on 30 March dont fancy 14 days in quarantine i guess there's no beer fish n chips and indian curry provide there

got a flight on the 6th April back home, same feelings

[Ramen087]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3048772/striking-coronavirus-mutations-found-within-one-family-cluster
 

From the SCMP: it appears there is a mutation of the virus taking place in human to human transmission. Let’s hope it an innocuous change. 

[terry m]

10 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

got a flight on the 6th April back home, same feelings

I have one 28th looking forward to fish and chps !

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, shadowofacloud said:

Yes, that's another story. I am trying to avoid making any assumptions, simply looking at available data. The quality of this data is a different story, it's quite possible it is being manipulated.

 

A few questions:

How does hitting the limits of diagnostic capabilities work? Not enough diagnostic kits? Not enough people to analyze the samples? And what does constitute of a diagnostic kit? I assume they take blood from a person suspected of infection - what happens then? Does it have to go through a complex extraction process, be analyzed using a spectrometer or similar machine?

 

There have been various media reports of them running low/running out of whatever they need to do the tests. Also of sick people asking to be tested being turned away from overflowing hospitals, etc etc.

 

[geriatrickid]

4 hours ago, Traubert said:

1:23 am Feb 5
The average age of patients died of novel coronavirus infection in epicenter Wuhan is 68, while average age of confirmed cases is younger in other places.

 

10:06 pm Feb 4
Huoshenshan hospital, a newly-built facility to treat coronavirus patients, has now received 45 patients, and will put 1000 beds into use in the next three to five days. 1400 medical staff will also work at the hospital: deputy director of the hospital

 

7:51 pm Feb 4
More efforts in combating coronavirus: 2,000 more medical staff sent to support Hubei to ensure patient treatment in epicenter: central government
 

https://www.globaltimes.cn//content/1177737.shtml

 

The reds under the bed crowd will no doubt pour scorn on this but it's at least a window into what's happening in China real time and bloody sight more reliable than media with an anti-China bias, plus they aren't selling clicks.

 

What is your point here? Is the intent to insult everyone's intelligence with your use of  unsubstantiated statements from an unreliable and untrustworthy source of information.

The Global Times is a daily tabloid newspaper controlled by the Chinese Communist Party's People's Daily newspaper. This is the same group that calls the concentration camps holding Uyhgurs,  "Holiday and Leisure Camps" and  "Education   facilities".

 

Do you really believe that  a 1000 bed hospital can be built in a week? More like a  detention center dormitory. All that the Chinese have done is build a place where people will be kept.   It is impossible to  have equipped  the facility with the medical equipment and  advanced care  devices common to a basic clinic. It takes time to install ICU equipment and to calibrate equipment. The facility probably does not even have a balanced  air flow and pressure system required to control infectious disease contagion.

Are you aware the  current infectious disease control protocols require patient isolation as in individual hospital rooms? This is why every new hospital being built in the developed world emphasizes individual rooms. Don't tell us that the  Chinese facility respects that basic starting requirement. Do you know what happens when you have 50 patients sharing one toilet?

 

You reference  patient age demographics as if  your data is reliable. Well, it isn't reliable because it has not been vetted and verified by third parties, specifically WHO. Are you even aware that the Chinese are not being overly co-operative in allowing foreigners  to observe the treatment facilities or to access patients?  What we are being fed is misinformation praising the Chinese with the goal to keep people from panicking.  China has unleashed another infectious disease on the world and its government is in panic mode trying to get its genie back in the bottle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bkkcanuck8]

21 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

got a flight on the 6th April back home, same feelings

That will likely be nearing the peak of the pandemic - not a good time to be flying... especially if you are an old or with pre-existing conditions.  I would make plans to change that date ...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

14 hours ago, sirineou said:

As I mentioned a few time , we were getting ready to return to our Thai home  this spring as we do every year. 

Are plans are on hold as we monitor the situation, Our primary concern is getting on a plane, and transfers at high risk locations, but a secondary concern is that  if things got bad, we might not be able to return to the US and even if we were we might have to be quarantined for 14 days. 

 

Those are absolutely the things I'd be thinking -- until and unless this thing gets resolved or stabilized.  If I was home, I'd stay home. If I was planning intl travel to SE Asia, I'd postpone it right now.

 

 

[poohy]

2 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

That will likely be nearing the peak of the pandemic - not a good time to be flying... especially if you are an old or with pre-existing conditions.  I would make plans to change that date ...

thanks for your comforting advice ......ever thought of joining the samaritans

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Coronavirus Cases Jump to 25 With One Seriously Ill

By Randy Thanthong-Knight

 

Quote

 

The Southeast Asian nation has seen some local transmission, and there could be an “epidemic” in one to two months, where new cases emerge daily, Tanarak Plipat, a deputy director in the Health Ministry, said at a seminar. The government is trying to avoid that outcome, he said.

“It may not happen at all,” Tanarak said. “But we’re prepared for the worst.”

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, macnmotion said:

From what I understand, the current turnaround time for test results is 48 hours, not a week.

 

If that was true, then it's hard to understand how they managed to accrue a backlog of 405 suspect cases awaiting lab test results as of a few days ago.

 

[bkkcanuck8]

3 minutes ago, poohy said:

thanks for your comforting advice ......ever thought of joining the samaritans

Well, I could have worded it better like... sure... no problem ... flying in the middle of a pandemic in a tin can that is no more than a big petri dish in the sky where everyone shares the same air and toilets throws up vapor from infected feces is a great idea.. have a nice trip... ????

[Mansell]

So if I got the virus, would this mandatory Thai health insurance cover me at the hospital?

Friend going to the airport in China flying back to USA was stopped at at toll booth and had his temp checked. Got to the airport and they were checking Asians but not white people, and he wondered why? His Chinese wife suggested that maybe only Asians can get this virus.....food for thought, and I haven’t seen anything about this anywhere. Have this question in to a doctor friend who specialises in infectious diseases. Will let you know.

That would be ironic for the Thai government driving The farang out.

[robsamui]

18 hours ago, Tayaout said:

And thai people on this forum keep saying it's a foreigner illness. Doesn't affect Thai according to them. 

555 - the level of education and general knowledge in this nation is a constant amusement. My friend's son, now at university, had a Band-Aid on his face last week. "Cut yourself shaving?" I asked. "No, I got toothache," was his reply.

[zydeco]

5 minutes ago, Mansell said:

His Chinese wife suggested that maybe only Asians can get this virus.....food for thought, and I haven’t seen anything about this anywhere.

Or maybe the rest of us are like Typhoid Mary. Would make things real interesting next time at Immigration when there could be a parting of the seas upon arrival. Might even encourage more online filing possibilities.

Edited February 5, 2020 by zydeco

[Canuck1966]

19 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

 

What is your point here? Is the intent to insult everyone's intelligence with your use of  unsubstantiated statements from an unreliable and untrustworthy source of information.

The Global Times is a daily tabloid newspaper controlled by the Chinese Communist Party's People's Daily newspaper. This is the same group that calls the concentration camps holding Uyhgurs,  "Holiday and Leisure Camps" and  "Education   facilities".

 

Do you really believe that  a 1000 bed hospital can be built in a week? More like a  detention center dormitory. All that the Chinese have done is build a place where people will be kept.   It is impossible to  have equipped  the facility with the medical equipment and  advanced care  devices common to a basic clinic. It takes time to install ICU equipment and to calibrate equipment. The facility probably does not even have a balanced  air flow and pressure system required to control infectious disease contagion.

Are you aware the  current infectious disease control protocols require patient isolation as in individual hospital rooms? This is why every new hospital being built in the developed world emphasizes individual rooms. Don't tell us that the  Chinese facility respects that basic starting requirement. Do you know what happens when you have 50 patients sharing one toilet?

 

You reference  patient age demographics as if  your data is reliable. Well, it isn't reliable because it has not been vetted and verified by third parties, specifically WHO. Are you even aware that the Chinese are not being overly co-operative in allowing foreigners  to observe the treatment facilities or to access patients?  What we are being fed is misinformation praising the Chinese with the goal to keep people from panicking.  China has unleashed another infectious disease on the world and its government is in panic mode trying to get its genie back in the bottle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He obviously has a vested interest in this.

Reminds me of Baghdad Bob!

[emptypockets]

Flew twice in the last five days. Internationally into Swampy, domestically through DMK. No intention of changing what I do based on panic and hysteria.

I'm certainly not going to lock myself in my room as some posters claim they are doing. That is no life at all.

Edited February 5, 2020 by emptypockets

[404error]

Am I the only one who thinks the world needs coronavirus?

Actually, the world needs something stronger ..

[zydeco]

1 minute ago, 404error said:

Am I the only one who thinks the world needs coronavirus?

Actually, the world needs something stronger ..

How pleasant. Newbie poster. Been here less than a year and a half. And wishing death and destruction on the world. Thailand has a strange effect on some people.

[emptypockets]

14 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Well, I could have worded it better like... sure... no problem ... flying in the middle of a pandemic in a tin can that is no more than a big petri dish in the sky where everyone shares the same air and toilets throws up vapor from infected feces is a great idea.. have a nice trip... ????

So you fly Yorkshire Air?

[CGW]

4 minutes ago, zydeco said:

Been here less than a year and a half. And wishing death and destruction on the world.

Indeed, should be a three year minimum time moratorium on such wishes! 

[emptypockets]

11 minutes ago, robsamui said:

555 - the level of education and general knowledge in this nation is a constant amusement. My friend's son, now at university, had a Band-Aid on his face last week. "Cut yourself shaving?" I asked. "No, I got toothache," was his reply.

Could say the same about farang who have no idea about the pain killing properties of some local medications. Not unusual to see people with a headache using what appears to be a sticking plaster on either temple. Guess what....it works!!

[HollyT]

20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Those are absolutely the things I'd be thinking -- until and unless this thing gets resolved or stabilized.  If I was home, I'd stay home. If I was planning intl travel to SE Asia, I'd postpone it right now.

 

 

 
Seems sensible to me. My mother is meant to be flying out here in a couple of weeks, but she’s ~60 and has a terrible immune system to begin with. Until we know more, I don’t much like the risk of her being exposed to this while in transit, or her then being around my one year old. 
Happy to look back in the future and think ‘remember that time when we freaked out over nothing’ rather than wishing we’d played it safe. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

32 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Do you really believe that  a 1000 bed hospital can be built in a week? More like a  detention center dormitory.

 

Time will tell...  But I'm guessing....

 

Kinda like the Hubei version of the "Bangkok Hilton."  Hubei Hilton???

[Tayaout]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Time will tell...  But I'm guessing....

 

Kinda like the Hubei version of the "Bangkok Hilton."  Hubei Hilton???

Look similar but more clean. 

 

[CGW]

9 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

So you fly Yorkshire Air?

Aye up lad! frame thi'sen, avin a dig at York shire folk! in these dire times! fair to middlin airline, but go ahead, fill thee boots with scorn !

Fancy a brew? 

"Nowt as queer as folks thanows! 

[spidermike007]

And yet, Thailand is still welcoming Chinese tourists, with open arms. The few who are still traveling anyway. Thailand, through extreme myopia, put itself into this position. By putting all of it's eggs in the basket of China, they opened themselves up to a tourism and economic tragedy of immense proportions. It was an inane decision, made by people with little to no experience in tourism, hired based on cronyism, or nepotism, and entirely without merit. When you reach for the bottom of the barrel, this is what you get. The Thai people are in for a world of hurt. Tourism was already in a near crisis stage, due to an extremely xenophobic and racist administration. Now? 

 

I do feel bad for the common Thai. However, in a sense they allowed this to happen, by allowing the totally incompetent army to take over. The only solution now, is to get them out. Hopefully, the youth will rise up. The army is truly despised at this point in time. They are beyond useless. But this could be a good thing in the long run.