Bkk Outdoor Kitchen/BBQ Area?

[RAZZELL]

"Our" garden has a small outdoor area which we don't utilise...we want to add a roof to cover a small kitchen with a sink, fridge, gas cookers, bbq, washing machine, maybe an oven etc

 

I hope this kitchen/bbq area can be a bit nicer than the usual "Thai style" kitchen.

 

Something a bit like this:

 

 

https://www.infinitydesign.in.th/10-ไอเดียต่อเติมครัว/69690

 

With a "privacy screen/fence" (but using composite):

 

(And smooth side up? In the UK I've always seen the grooved side up? (apparently wrongly???)

 

https://www.thaigardendesign.com/bbq-timber-deck-and-privacy-screen-bangkok/

 

I have searched the Forum but I am really struggling to find any links for items which might be suitable for use outside?

 

https://www.bbqthailand.com/

 

https://bbqthai.com/

 

https://www.bbqgrillsthai.com/

 

https://quik-fire.com/

 

This place does some fantastic outdoor ceiling fans:

 

http://www.mrken-fan.com/

 

Outdoor furniture, but very $$$ - used by some high end hotels and housing developments (probably for ideas/inspiration only! ????)

 

http://www.kenkoon.com/

 

Any other recommendations for contractors, suppliers or websites in Bangkok or the surrounding areas?

 

 

RAZZ

 

Edited February 10, 2020 by RAZZELL

[JAFO]

My recommendation is anything that will be outdoors should be made of Stainless Steel. It will hold up well. I would do the sink, Thai stove and BBQ out of SST. The frame could be made out of cement and tile. 

 

Nice design idea. As another suggestion, Make sure that you have a hood over the Thai Stove to draw fumes away or that area will become smoked out when cooking occurs.  Hoods are really inexpensive

 

Good Luck

[RAZZELL]

32 minutes ago, JAFO said:

Good Luck

Cheers.

 

I was thinking of contacting Quick fire and getting them to design a kitchen but they are the other end of the country in Udon Thani I believe?

 

I'd probably like a Thai (cheaper) version of these?

 

E.g.

 

https://www.barbequesgalore.com.au/barbeques/barbeque-type/outdoor-kitchens

 

https://www.barbequesgalore.com.au/alfresco-island-inc-6-burner-bbq-sink-range

 

https://www.barbequesgalore.com.au/premium-beefmaster-6-burner-with-side-burner-on-cart-with-bench-and-sink

 

EDIT - had a quick google for "stainless steel kitchen bangkok" - might be a bit overkill.

 

https://funfoodthailand.com/

 

http://www.rangsitprofessional.co.th/

 

http://hooth.co.th/en/home-en/

 

 

 

RAZZ

Edited February 10, 2020 by RAZZELL

[RAZZELL]

Funny how the obvious answers can be staring you in the face! ????

 

This looks promising:

 

http://www.ysssstainless.com/index.php?lang=th

 

http://www.ysssstainless.com/product-th-782456-ชุดครัวบ้านงานสแตนเลส.html

 

RAZZ

Edited February 10, 2020 by RAZZELL

[bankruatsteve]

45 minutes ago, RAZZELL said:

I was thinking of contacting Quick fire and getting them to design a kitchen but they are the other end of the country in Udon Thani I believe?

It's "Quik-Fire" (.com) and yes, located in Udon Thani.  Not sure if Doc does kitchen design but he's built up quite a variety of "BBQ" grills over the years.  I prefer the counter-top design and mine (similar to what he now calls "SS Crown") has been in operation for over 6 years with no issues.  I'm pretty sure he will ship.

 

Do you have experience with outdoor grilling or does it just seem like a good idea?

[ThomasThBKK]

I can recommend BBQTHAI.com for bouying the actual appliances, i am a many year customers there and they are always decent, even help me smuggle in the forbidden gas cans :X

 

I am not sure they design outdoor spaces tho? 

 

I would just go to a random architect studio/landscaper in bkk and let him have a look at it, they know where to buy the stuff and often get a discount for bringing repeated customers.

 

 

[RAZZELL]

42 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said:

It's "Quik-Fire" (.com) and yes, located in Udon Thani.  Not sure if Doc does kitchen design but he's built up quite a variety of "BBQ" grills over the years.  I prefer the counter-top design and mine (similar to what he now calls "SS Crown") has been in operation for over 6 years with no issues.  I'm pretty sure he will ship.

 

Do you have experience with outdoor grilling or does it just seem like a good idea?

 

No real experience - I'm from the UK - it just seems like a good idea! ????

 

RAZZ

[RAZZELL]

21 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said:

I can recommend BBQTHAI.com for bouying the actual appliances, i am a many year customers there and they are always decent, even help me smuggle in the forbidden gas cans :X

 

I am not sure they design outdoor spaces tho? 

 

I would just go to a random architect studio/landscaper in bkk and let him have a look at it, they know where to buy the stuff and often get a discount for bringing repeated customers.

 

 

 

I will contact https://www.thaigardendesign.com/ which is run by a Brit to get a rough idea and a quote for the decking, roof etc.

 

This again looks promising but might be a bit spendy!

 

http://www.arcostainless.com/

 

RAZZ

Edited February 10, 2020 by RAZZELL

[bankruatsteve]

23 minutes ago, RAZZELL said:

 

No real experience - I'm from the UK - it just seems like a good idea! ????

 

RAZZ

OK.  I suggest you start with an inexpensive charcoal grill instead of what can amount to a LOT of money for equipment that might end up collecting dust.  Setting up an outdoor cooking area can be done in such a way that you can easily upgrade your cooking choices.  Most charcoal grills only last a few years but are arguably better for getting that grilled taste.  And you will need to learn when to use direct heat versus indirect and when you need to fiddle with the meat or just leave it alone for the perfect result.  If it turns out you just can't be bothered with the attention you need to give while grilling or end up burning everything (well, being from the UK that might be desirable ????), then at least you're not out the big bucks for "professional" kit.  

[dddave]

Most small Thai  cities have several stainless steel fabricators making basic work tables and fixtures for local restaurants.  You might be able to have such a shop build a decent workstation and hood for a lot less money

[JAFO]

I BBQ 3 or 4 times a week. Can vary from Salmon/Chicken/Ribs to an occasional steak and of course Veggies or corn on the cob. My wife loves grilling the big shrimp. Wife really likes the grill.  We have a completely detached outside kitchen and my BBQ pit is outside under  an awning cover. Its a large 3 burner grill with a burner on the left that my wife uses for big pots of soup and does not want her kitchen to get to hot. Had it here for 5 years and works perfectly. 

 

That said to Razz, if you buy something new I highly encourage you to buy a full set of replacement burners. I say this as models change and then they discontinue the burners. I brought my BBQ pit over from the states when we moved and I bought 3 extra sets. First set lasted 3 years.  I should be covered for another 8 or so years. Maybe more.  

 

 

[bankruatsteve]

7 minutes ago, JAFO said:

That said to Razz, if you buy something new I highly encourage you to buy a full set of replacement burners. I say this as models change and then they discontinue the burners. I brought my BBQ pit over from the states when we moved and I bought 3 extra sets. First set lasted 3 years.  I should be covered for another 8 or so years. Maybe more. 

That's good advice for many of the products out there.  But, I can attest that would not be necessary for a Quik-Fire grill.  That is one of the most durable grills I have ever owned and could rival a top of line Weber IMO.

[ThomasThBKK]

4 hours ago, bankruatsteve said:

OK.  I suggest you start with an inexpensive charcoal grill instead of what can amount to a LOT of money for equipment that might end up collecting dust.  Setting up an outdoor cooking area can be done in such a way that you can easily upgrade your cooking choices.  Most charcoal grills only last a few years but are arguably better for getting that grilled taste.  And you will need to learn when to use direct heat versus indirect and when you need to fiddle with the meat or just leave it alone for the perfect result.  If it turns out you just can't be bothered with the attention you need to give while grilling or end up burning everything (well, being from the UK that might be desirable ????), then at least you're not out the big bucks for "professional" kit.  

 

I got one of the small weber gas grills, think they are ideal for beginners. Charcoal might <deleted> off the neighbours... i use a bit of liquid smoke instead to get the taste.

 

https://bbqthai.com/product/3312/ got this one, would say its more than enough for every beginner with a small family.

[JAFO]

3 hours ago, bankruatsteve said:

That's good advice for many of the products out there.  But, I can attest that would not be necessary for a Quik-Fire grill.  That is one of the most durable grills I have ever owned and could rival a top of line Weber IMO.

Quality of product goes a long ways most certainly.  At lot will depend on how much one uses their grill. The gas diffusors while made of SST, deteriorate.  If you use your grill once a week or so then it's probably not necessary to buy spares. But if you use it like I do 3 to sometimes 5 days a week they burn out rather fast.  

 

I have had my BBQ grill for near 12 years now. Back in the states it was used once a week maybe and winter very seldom.  But here you can enjoy grilling virtually year round.  

 

@ Razz. Its advisable to attempt a guess on how much you might grill.  If very little then buying a grill for a lower price is a good choice.  If you plan on a lot, spend extra and get a good set up.  

 

Again best of luck whichever route you go.  

[RAZZELL]

Thanks for the above 

 

I don't intend to use charcoal but gas - as I like being on nodding terms with the neighbours ????

 

RAZZ

 

 

[RAZZELL]

Something like this could be ideal. They are quite near Mega Bangna.

 

http://arcostainless.com/

 

Edited February 11, 2020 by RAZZELL

[bankruatsteve]

@RAZZELL in your OP, you said outside with a roof cover.  So, I don't get the need for the hood.  Otherwise, that should make any Thai who prefers to cook outside happy.  My wife needs a work table as well.  Cheers.

[AlexCaro]

you can also search for more ideas on Pinterest, for more interesting and unusual design examples.

as for the equipment, try to search for some articles or buying guides. At least this is what I was doing to find some ideas for my backyard. 

[sometimewoodworker]

On 2/11/2020 at 12:08 PM, bankruatsteve said:

in your OP, you said outside with a roof cover.  So, I don't get the need for the hood. 

For getting the greasy smoke out?

[Crossy]

Some nice stuff in the previous posts if that's what floats your boat.

 

I'm not one for masses of stainless in a domestic environment, it looks too clinical for me, I'm more of an earthy type. Our indoor kitchen is concrete with a granite top and teak doors along with teak wall units and dining furniture.

 

@RAZZELL have you asked your good lady what she wants since she is likely going to be the one using it? ????

 

Our outdoor area is simply a roofed space (2.5 open sides) with a table and a charcoal fired stove, it only got floor tiles this year. The (charcoal) barbie lives in there too but is wheeled out into the open for operation so no greasy smoke in the roof.

 

I did ask if Madam wanted something more permanent or a sink - nope.

 

It could do with a hood over the stove but even in a mild breeze most of the smoke exits through the open sides (the stove is on one of the open sides).

 

The lady is happy and that's what's important to me ????

 

[RAZZELL]

On 9/21/2020 at 8:13 AM, Crossy said:

Some nice stuff in the previous posts if that's what floats your boat.

 

I'm not one for masses of stainless in a domestic environment, it looks too clinical for me, I'm more of an earthy type. Our indoor kitchen is concrete with a granite top and teak doors along with teak wall units and dining furniture.

 

@RAZZELL have you asked your good lady what she wants since she is likely going to be the one using it? ????

 

Our outdoor area is simply a roofed space (2.5 open sides) with a table and a charcoal fired stove, it only got floor tiles this year. The (charcoal) barbie lives in there too but is wheeled out into the open for operation so no greasy smoke in the roof.

 

I did ask if Madam wanted something more permanent or a sink - nope.

 

It could do with a hood over the stove but even in a mild breeze most of the smoke exits through the open sides (the stove is on one of the open sides).

 

The lady is happy and that's what's important to me ????

 

She doesn't use the kitchen we have! ????????

 

RAZZ

[sometimewoodworker]

40 minutes ago, SarahS said:

Man, I'm so happy for you! Having an outdoor grill is fantastic! I can't imagine my life without well done grilled fish.

But as it was said, it is really helpful to read some basic articles about grills and then ask around people who have real experience with a certain model.

In my case, I stopped looking on a Traeger grill. I'd be glad to share this grill review with you, hope it helps if you're on a Traeger side, haha 

But models from Webber or FTP are also great, take a look ???? 

While those are certainly reasonable to good why go outside Thailand for manufacturing? Udon Thani grills and smokers  have excellent products and ship anywhere in Thailand, I am not connected with the company just a satisfied customer.