2 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Ah yes, there is the leftists idea of justice and fairness. "he deserves it"

Plain and simple the leftist idea of justice is whatever suits them.

Trump appears to be attempting to "Putinize" the justice system. At least he is trying. Might be a bit harder for him, as the US at least appears to have higher safeguards, and Trump lacks the sophistication or intelligence of Putin. But, no doubt there is some funny business going on. Good on Barr for finally showing us he possesses a tiny bit of manhood. Although one does suspect how sincere he was, and whether or not it was a coordinate effort. 

30 minutes ago, candide said:

Her statements in voir dire are in the article linked.

 

Stone’s lawyers knew that she was generally familiar with Stone, they knew she ran for Congress, they specifically asked about political bias, and then refused to seek her removal.

https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not

 

According to the author, there could possibly be an issue only if she hid facts that would have provided a valid basis to challenge her presence on the jury.

 

Very interesting. Looks like Stone got a fair trial.

On 2/14/2020 at 5:04 AM, webfact said:

Trump posted a Fox News story on Twitter that accused some of the jurors in Stone's case of political bias.

as always anything and everything to stir attention away from his wrong doing.... always somebody else's fault

7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Plain and simple the leftist idea of justice is whatever suits them.

Yet It's the Trumpers who always complain that the people who are convicted should not be convicted, and vice-versa.

Oh, I see, It's because of the deep state, lol.

55 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Plain and simple the leftist idea of justice is whatever suits them.

Really. I guess that's a repeat of a tweet from the clown.

5 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Yes he should stop Tweeting it's ridiculous but not as ridiculous as the proposed sentence of 9 years for a minor felony, Clinton lied, Comey lied, Strock lied and Schiff lied but nothing happens? 9 years is more than many serious assaults, robberies and rapes.

Your assertions about who lied are questionable. But it wasn't just about Stone lying, was it? He also threatened another witness. That's a far more serious crime.

3 hours ago, candide said:

Her statements in voir dire are in the article linked.

 

Stone’s lawyers knew that she was generally familiar with Stone, they knew she ran for Congress, they specifically asked about political bias, and then refused to seek her removal.

https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not

 

According to the author, there could possibly be an issue only if she hid facts that would have provided a valid basis to challenge her presence on the jury.

 

A plausible explanation is the defense team withheld objecting to this particular jury member with the intention to make post trial objections in the expectation that the verdict was going to be a conviction.

 

The evidence against Stone was solid, his legal team would surely understand that a conviction was a near certainty, setting up grounds for a post trial objection is a logical insurance strategy.

 

 

6 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

So therefore, folks you dont like politically are not entitled to a fair trial. Gotcha. I knew that already, I just wanted it confirmed.

 

Anyway Im sure we will see how it plays out. Have a great day, I think Im gonna go take some pictures of strange things.

 

     Selfies, presumably?

9 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Daily Caller?  Lordy, a totally unreliable source.

 

But I'm curious to your rationale.  To be fair, are you suggesting that Trump supporters also cannot serve on the jury?

Ah yes, liberals get to decide what is a credible source based on what they want to hear 

22 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Ah yes, liberals get to decide what is a credible source based on what they want to hear 

Ok, you tell me what is a credible source.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A plausible explanation is the defense team withheld objecting to this particular jury member with the intention to make post trial objections in the expectation that the verdict was going to be a conviction.

 

The evidence against Stone was solid, his legal team would surely understand that a conviction was a near certainty, setting up grounds for a post trial objection is a logical insurance strategy.

 

 

I think someone posted alink to the transcript of the voir dire. I believe it showed that his lawyers did quedtion her quite closely.

25 minutes ago, winslowsjardine said:

I think someone posted alink to the transcript of the voir dire. I believe it showed that his lawyers did quedtion her quite closely.

They did. Here is the link again:

https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not

And if you want to see the whole voir dire transcript here's a link:

https://www.scribd.com/document/446913716/Roger-Stone-jury-selection-transcript-Nov-5-2019

Her interview starts on page 34.

 

8 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

They did. Here is the link again:

https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not

And if you want to see the whole voir dire transcript here's a link:

https://www.scribd.com/document/446913716/Roger-Stone-jury-selection-transcript-Nov-5-2019

Her interview starts on page 34.

 

Bullseye.

 

Not to mention trumps own ag telling him to <deleted>.

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

Ok, you tell me what is a credible source.

A reporter who is actually going to tell the whole story, not a narrative dictated by editors purposely omitting facts that are contrary to the preferred narrative of the biased political ideology present in the majority of news agencies. 

10 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Ah yes, there is the leftists idea of justice and fairness. "he deserves it"

Back to the safe spot calling others leftie lol just so you know I’m more about the assault on our democracy by this administration it goes deeper than my revulsion of trump as an individual it’s more about his attempt to destroy our democracy his inability to work within our constitution and norms his ignorant hamfisted handeling of foreign policy the constant undignified lies and trolling the welcoming of foreign interference or the soliciting of such interference in our elections now the interference in our justice system I could go on and on but let’s just leave it at this if it makes you feel all righteous and safe to call ma a lefty go ahead I know what I am an American who is truly alarmed by this president and administration 

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Back to the safe spot calling others leftie lol just so you know I’m more about the assault on our democracy by this administration it goes deeper than my revulsion of trump as an individual it’s more about his attempt to destroy our democracy his inability to work within our constitution and norms his ignorant hamfisted handeling of foreign policy the constant undignified lies and trolling the welcoming of foreign interference or the soliciting of such interference in our elections now the interference in our justice system I could go on and on but let’s just leave it at this if it makes you feel all righteous and safe to call ma a lefty go ahead I know what I am an American who is truly alarmed by this president and administration 

Get over the moral preening and virtue signaling. 

 

The only threat to the democracy is the ideological left deeply rooted in the bloated beauracracy that would purposely leak and lie to pedal an agenda. 

1 hour ago, Chiphigh said:

Get over the moral preening and virtue signaling. 

 

The only threat to the democracy is the ideological left deeply rooted in the bloated beauracracy that would purposely leak and lie to pedal an agenda. 

Rite back to the old safe spot lol now it’s now it’s preening and virtue signaling lol I guess so I do care and love my country but you go ahead and defend the guy interfering in the justice system you know the guy who had to pay up for the scam university and let’s not forget the 2 million dollar fine for ripping off the scam chairty lol virtue my rear end lol just to funney

17 minutes ago, Tug said:

Rite back to the old safe spot lol now it’s now it’s preening and virtue signaling lol I guess so I do care and love my country but you go ahead and defend the guy interfering in the justice system you know the guy who had to pay up for the scam university and let’s not forget the 2 million dollar fine for ripping off the scam chairty lol virtue my rear end lol just to funney

The justice system interfered in an election on known false pretense and bias and you think that the President is the problem. That is truly ironic 

6 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

A reporter who is actually going to tell the whole story, not a narrative dictated by editors purposely omitting facts that are contrary to the preferred narrative of the biased political ideology present in the majority of news agencies. 

So you agree that Fox news pundits are not credible sources.  Good for you.

 

Why don't you name specific reporters and news organizations they work for that you consider credible.

7 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

A reporter who is actually going to tell the whole story, not a narrative dictated by editors purposely omitting facts that are contrary to the preferred narrative of the biased political ideology present in the majority of news agencies. 

And the name of that reporter is....     ???

Add to your statement "not a narrative dictated by The Leader and his cronies" and I'm with you.

 

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Ah yes, there is the leftists idea of justice and fairness. "he deserves it"

 

Being against an authoritarian takeover of the gov't does not make one a leftist, but I could see how one who favors being submissive to iron-heel rule would see it that way.  You're not one of those, are you?

As ol' Mitch McC (aka the second-rank Moscow puppet in DC) would probably put it "I'm against justice and fairness as it would favor the Democrats."  Actually, he did say rules against foreign interference would favor Democrats -- please explain that one, Mitch.

 

The Clown of the Week Award is a tie between Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins for both saying publicly that DT has learned his lesson from the impeachment experience and will now behave himself.  

 

 

8 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Get over the moral preening and virtue signaling. 

 

The only threat to the democracy is the ideological left deeply rooted in the bloated beauracracy that would purposely leak and lie to pedal an agenda. 

The deep state conspiracy. The ultimate argument after all the others have failed.

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

And the name of that reporter is....     ???

Solomon! ????

9 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Get over the moral preening and virtue signaling. 

 

The only threat to the democracy is the ideological left deeply rooted in the bloated beauracracy that would purposely leak and lie to pedal an agenda. 

factual examples? Not trump conspiracy claims

10 hours ago, Tug said:

Rite back to the old safe spot lol now it’s now it’s preening and virtue signaling lol I guess so I do care and love my country but you go ahead and defend the guy interfering in the justice system you know the guy who had to pay up for the scam university and let’s not forget the 2 million dollar fine for ripping off the scam chairty lol virtue my rear end lol just to funney

 

Even more virtue signaling. 

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

factual examples? Not trump conspiracy claims

You mean factual examples of the overwhelming percentage of leftists who run the media? 

9 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

The justice system interfered in an election on known false pretense and bias and you think that the President is the problem. That is truly ironic 

Have any evidence of that? Considering the ig and horowitz report stated otherwise.

Barr tells Trump to stop tweeting about Stone case

 

Because Barr is busy fixing and hiding things this criminal enterprise working out of the White House is doing.  Every time Trump tweets. what is hidden is now open and has to be explained

 

Democracy may die in darkness, but criminals love it  

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

13 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

A reporter who is actually going to tell the whole story, not a narrative dictated by editors purposely omitting facts that are contrary to the preferred narrative of the biased political ideology present in the majority of news agencies. 

So you agree that Fox news pundits are not credible sources.  Good for you.

 

Why don't you name specific reporters and news organizations they work for that you consider credible.

I'll bet he gets some of his news from this guy below.  It seems right-leaning people are more susceptible to fake news.  They want to believe pretty much anything that supports their narrative.  And these creators of fake news know it.  They're making money off of the ignorance.

 

[Washington (AFP) - Christopher Blair produces false stories he insists are easily identifiable as satire rather than news. His pages can rack up millions of views, and at least part of that audience believes the material is true.]

[Blair -- a self-described "liberal troll" and political activist -- says he knows what to write for his right-wing "target audience" through years of "being embedded in their world."]

[He does not hold that audience in high regard.]

["They live on... fear and hate and misinformation and very specific storylines that everybody knows aren't true except for them," he told AFP.]

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/master-false-news-gives-wing-americans-headlines-believe-012738936.html

 

Basically Barr got wind of over a thousand prosecutors, both dems and repubs about to give him a huge vote of no confidence.

 

The whitehouse was told before the interview what he was going to say, hence this is the first instance of trump not going crazy when someone says anything against him.

 

So all barr is doing is telling trump that he needs to get the rank and file subdued.