Justice Dept drops probe of ex-FBI official McCabe, a top Trump target

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

But by that kind of logic, if someone isn't specifically excluded from an investigation, then it's legitimate to raise the possibility that he or she might be in the future? In that case, who isn't a potential target for an investigation? Given that McCabe was the target of a grand jury investigation which failed to return an indictment, and that 2 exhaustive investigations have already been conducted, I'd say the odds of him being indicted are lower than, say, yours or mine. 

It certainly is crazy kind of logic. Those cleared will be guilty of something. Those proven guilty should not have been.

[bristolboy]

Just now, Sujo said:

It certainly is crazy kind of logic. Those cleared will be guilty of something. Those proven guilty should not have been.

I think you just won the prize for the smartest comment on the bizarro world logic of Trump's supporters.

[khunken]

I wonder if Julian Assange's lawyers will use Trump & his lackeys' interference in the US justice system as even more proof that he won't get a fair trial in the US?

Once upon a time the US had a first-world Federal justice system (especially for high-profile cases), but not now.

[sirineou]

9 minutes ago, khunken said:

I wonder if Julian Assange's lawyers will use Trump & his lackeys' interference in the US justice system as even more proof that he won't get a fair trial in the US?

Once upon a time the US had a first-world Federal justice system (especially for high-profile cases), but not now.

The damage this a-hole of a president had done to the country will take years , if ever to repair. and what, what did we get in return? It would not be so bad if we spend a lot of political moral and financial capital but solved some social problems, but what have got so far,  Did we solve the Immigration problem? is Healthcare better , more affordable with more people insured? is deficit spending down,  the debt reduced? the world a safer place? trade balance with China improved?  what did we get other than division, confusion, and drama? 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

What's clear to most right-thinking people is that the left has no other option other than to continue their pursuit of making false claims and then keep repeating them over and over again in hopes that people believe.  Hasn't worked yet.

 

Russian collusion?  Not guilty.  A fabrication soon to be exposed in full.

Obstruction?  Not guilty.  Also soon to be exposed (if the FBI knew in Jan. 2017 that there was no Russian collusion why did they renew two FISAs and why did they initiate the Mueller investigation?

Impeachment?  Not guilty.  I believe this will be another fraud upon the American people that will come to light and the perps will pay dearly.

 

By all means, continue to keep repeating the falsity that Barr is a stooge for Trump.  LOL

Odd you should mention the left making false claims, given Trump and Barr’s claims wrt to McCabe now being demonstrated as false (or as I like to say, ‘hogwash’).

 

However 1 point for your ‘Projection’.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, BobBKK said:

You mean like Muller couldn't?  or Senate couldn't?  that kind of thing?  DOJ has very tight rules and because they can't prosecute does not mean he's an angel - he was FIRED.

And the Constitution has that thing about requiring a ruling from a Grand Jury -

The DoJ could not convince a Grand Jury of the merits of their allegations against McCabe.

 

As for being fired, it’s what Trump does to people who refuse to conspire with him in his crimes.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

The wheels of justice grind slowly and fine. McCabe isn't out of the woods yet. These Deep State players who attempted the soft coup are going down. Just not as fast as we'd like maybe! ???? 

 

MAGA 

I guess if Trump gets away with giving direct orders to the DoJ you might be right.

 

I don’t ever expect you or anyone of Trump’s apologists to have any problem with the President dictating ‘justice’.

[mickey rat]

10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I realize Trump is busy, getting minorities back into the workforce, and making Americans safer and richer, but I feel it is time he personally stepped in and took control of these travesty of justice cases that keep cropping up.

 Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Smollett. There is just no way on earth these people can be allowed to roam free after the appalling crimes they committed. Letting these people mock and laugh at the justice system and American people is somewhat souring Trumps monumental achievements since he took the helm. 

Not to mention Epstein.???? But nothing to see here folks, business as usual, move along...????

[metisdead]

A trolling meme post has been reported and removed. 

[JulesMad]

11 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Trumps monumental achievements

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Indeed, he and his family got richer and richer and america poorer and poorer.... Quite an achievement!

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, mickey rat said:

Not to mention Epstein.???? But nothing to see here folks, business as usual, move along...????

Do you understand that William Barr was the Attorney General when Epstein died? And that this was his second round as AG? Yet somehow despite his familiarity with the office, he failed to protect Epstein. So naturally whose fault it Epstein's death? The Deep State.

[jany123]

4 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

do you have any quarrel with the legal proposition I just put forth, that is, receiving a non prosecution letter as to a specific matter under investigation does not preclude any other prosecution? 

 

Absolutely not... and I thought I made that quite clear by saying;

 

5 hours ago, jany123 said:

which means yall will have to scrunch up the tin foil a little tighter and come up with a new, more believable, conspiracy... 

 

[candide]

3 hours ago, mickey rat said:

Not to mention Epstein.???? But nothing to see here folks, business as usual, move along...????

Not to mention that the shameful deal with Epstein has been made by a Republican prosecutor in  Republican state under a Republican POTUS. Prosecutor later nominated by Trump in his administration. Lol.

 

Jane Doe anyone?

Edited February 15, 2020 by candide

[Nyezhov]

2 hours ago, JulesMad said:

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.... Quite an achievement!

My broker says it is. 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, khunken said:

I wonder if Julian Assange's lawyers will use Trump & his lackeys' interference in the US justice system as even more proof that he won't get a fair trial in the US?

Once upon a time the US had a first-world Federal justice system (especially for high-profile cases), but not now.

Having played a part in Russia’s interference in Trump’s election Assange ought to try to arrive in the US before Trump is removed from office and arrested.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Other than the usual invective, do you have any quarrel with the legal proposition I just put forth, that is, receiving a non prosecution letter as to a specific matter under investigation does not preclude any other prosecution? 

Yes I do.

 

So a non prosecution letter relating to a specific matter is issued but we should non of us regard that as defense against any random accusation made on this forum, a tweet, by a rightwing mouth piece or seen in some tea leafs.

 

Tge argument you make is as credible as the assertion that Manafort would not do a day in prison.

[khunken]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Having played a part in Russia’s interference in Trump’s election Assange ought to try to arrive in the US before Trump is removed from office and arrested.

Snide post

Having played a much bigger part in exposing the extent of civilian deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan, The US - in particular Clinton - has been after him for years before Trump. Plus I don't see any abatement in the persecution of Chelsea Manning, also started before Trump.

It's a pity that your inability to see past your support for Clinton blinds you to your hatred of Assange. Trump is not likely to pardon Assange, quite the opposite.

 

Edited February 15, 2020 by khunken

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, khunken said:

Snide post

Having played a much bigger part in exposing the extent of civilian deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan, The US - in particular Clinton - has been after him for years before Trump. Plus I don't see any abatement in the persecution of Chelsea Manning, also started before Trump.

It's a pity that your inability to see past your support for Clinton blinds you to your hatred of Assange. Trump is not likely to pardon Assange, quite the opposite.

 

‘It's a pity that your inability to see past your support for Clinton.’

 

I have a challenge for you:

 

Produce evidence of my support for Clinton, or retract your pathetic post.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[khunken]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘It's a pity that your inability to see past your support for Clinton.’

 

I have a challenge for you:

 

Produce evidence of my support for Clinton, or retract your pathetic post.

I'll retract nothing. Your hatred for Assange because he retaliated against Clinton for her pursuit of him for releasing facts that the US didn't want known is enough.

[Sujo]

8 hours ago, khunken said:

I'll retract nothing. Your hatred for Assange because he retaliated against Clinton for her pursuit of him for releasing facts that the US didn't want known is enough.

Why do you presume assange is hated because of clinton?

 

obsessed much?

[Chomper Higgot]

10 hours ago, khunken said:

I'll retract nothing. Your hatred for Assange because he retaliated against Clinton for her pursuit of him for releasing facts that the US didn't want known is enough.

You are correct, I despise Assange and will toast his misery the day he’s thrown into a Federal prison. 

 

But my loathing of that man has absolutely nothing to do with Clinton.

 

Away with you and your baseless accusations.

[khunken]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You are correct, I despise Assange and will toast his misery the day he’s thrown into a Federal prison. 

 

But my loathing of that man has absolutely nothing to do with Clinton.

 

Away with you and your baseless accusations.

I will offer you a deal. You retract your baseless accusation that Trump is in any way likely to give Assange suppport should he be extradited to the US and I will retract my 'baseless' accusation that Clinton losing to Trump has affected your opinion.

OK?

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, khunken said:

I will offer you a deal. You retract your baseless accusation that Trump is in any way likely to give Assange suppport should he be extradited to the US and I will retract my 'baseless' accusation that Clinton losing to Trump has affected your opinion.

OK?

What like I should retract my comments in exchange for you withdrawing your off topic baseless attacks.

 

Away with your horse trading nonsense.

[Chomper Higgot]

A pattern is emerging:

 

Trump rants on Twitter and accuses somebody who has told the truth and/or otherwise exposed/stopped one of his criminal conspiracies.

 

Billy Barr announces an investigation and shortly afterwards declares indictments are coming. Some time after the noise has died down the DoJ drop the investigation and Billy Barr suggests other investigations are continuing.

 

Who I wonder is this charade meant to fool or placate?

[khunken]

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What like I should retract my comments in exchange for you withdrawing your off topic baseless attacks.

 

Away with your horse trading nonsense.

And away with your self importance nonsense.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 2/16/2020 at 1:57 PM, khunken said:

I will offer you a deal. You retract your baseless accusation that Trump is in any way likely to give Assange suppport should he be extradited to the US and I will retract my 'baseless' accusation that Clinton losing to Trump has affected your opinion.

OK?

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