Future Forward asks court to dismiss loan case

[webfact]

Future Forward asks court to dismiss loan case 

By The Nation

 

Piyabutr Saengkanokkul

 

Future Forward Party secretary-general Piyabutr Saengkanokkul came out today (February 18) to rebut the Bt191-million loan accusation against the party before a hearing takes place on February 21.

 

Piyabutr said Future Forward was approved as an official party on October 3, 2018, and immediately began a campaign seeking funds and donations “since the law of political parties and elections required parties to take several steps in order to propose candidates”.

 

Meanwhile, the National Council for Peace and Order forbade political activities and the Election Commission (EC) ordered parties to only receive donations from their executive boards, so Future Forward had to wait until December 2018 before the political limitation was lifted, Piyabutr said.

He said political parties could take loans since they were not income or donations but debt.

 

Moreover, the EC procedure was unjustified, since it did not give his party an opportunity to explain their actions, Piyabutr added.

 

He said the Constitutional Court cannot dissolve the party based on Section 210 of the Constitution since the dissolution verdict only appears in Section 92. He therefore asked the court to dismiss the case.

 

Regarding other accusations under Section 62, 66 and 72, Piyabutr confirmed that the Future Forward Party did not violate the Constitution and any penalty under those sections would not result in dissolution.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30382331

 

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[rkidlad]

If they are dissolved because of this, it might be a good time to take out a loan and not pay it back. Apparently the court will have redefined the word 'loan' to mean 'donation'. 

 

Oh, how farcical this all is. 

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Moreover, the EC procedure was unjustified, since it did not give his party an opportunity to explain their actions, Piyabutr added.

since the EC is controlled by Prayut's gang, they will find many ways to justify their procedures, your party on the other hand will not have any opportunity to defend itself,... that's sad but that's the law of the "jungle", they have the guns, you  don't

[Golden Triangle]

I did quote on here some months ago that I did not understand the reason for the prosecution as this was qualified as a loan with 7% interest and not a gift or donation from the leader of the party, as to saying his income was dodgy and could not be verified or confirmed, he's a successful businessman for crying out loud, what is wrong with these morons ???? Thick as two bricks.

[Baerboxer]

15 hours ago, Mavideol said:

since the EC is controlled by Prayut's gang, they will find many ways to justify their procedures, your party on the other hand will not have any opportunity to defend itself,... that's sad but that's the law of the "jungle", they have the guns, you  don't

 

But that's how everything works here isn't it? Rules, regulations and laws deliberately a mix of vague or overly flowery in the way they're written so they can be interpreted and applied or not dependent on the desired outcome of any given situation or case. Add to that the must never challenge or criticize your boss and must keep face above all else and voila!

[TheAppletons]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

But that's how everything works here isn't it? Rules, regulations and laws deliberately a mix of vague or overly flowery in the way they're written so they can be interpreted and applied or not dependent on the desired outcome of any given situation or case. Add to that the must never challenge or criticize your boss and must keep face above all else and voila!

  I'm amazed.  You didn't say "Thaksin" even once in your post.  ????

[Baerboxer]

16 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

I did quote on here some months ago that I did not understand the reason for the prosecution as this was qualified as a loan with 7% interest and not a gift or donation from the leader of the party, as to saying his income was dodgy and could not be verified or confirmed, he's a successful businessman for crying out loud, what is wrong with these morons ???? Thick as two bricks.

 

In the same way he either transferred shares before the deadline to comply with the rules or he didn't. In this case too, you'd think it would be pretty black or white. Is it a loan or not.

 

But it never is hear. Is it a loan or was it funding dressed up as a loan? etc etc etc.

 

All part of helping the wheels to come off the bus!

[Baerboxer]

9 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

  I'm amazed.  You didn't say "Thaksin" even once in your post.  ????

 

Perhaps you're obsessed by him or have some deep rooted desire? Seek professional help.

[ParkerN]

16 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

I did quote on here some months ago that I did not understand the reason for the prosecution as this was qualified as a loan with 7% interest and not a gift or donation from the leader of the party, as to saying his income was dodgy and could not be verified or confirmed, he's a successful businessman for crying out loud, what is wrong with these morons ???? Thick as two bricks.

Yup. Normal for Thailand. Feel sorry for the people who have to shake Prayuth's hand and smile at the beggar when they meet him on gatherings of heads of government. Their feelings about doing that are manifest in their body language. Not good, Lots of disdain, their assessment of Thai people based on this one guy is not known but inferences can be drawn.

Edited February 19, 2020 by ParkerN

[ParkerN]

23 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

  I'm amazed.  You didn't say "Thaksin" even once in your post.  ????

 

Didn't see a mention about being thick as 2 short planks either, but I suppose that applies to most if not all Thais so it might have been assumed rather then stated. Modest accomplishments at best.

 

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't see his original post - he's on my permanent ignore list for his quaint fixation on Thaksin.

Edited February 19, 2020 by ParkerN

[ParkerN]

Nothing to do with the law really, More to do with Prayuth having a hissy fit. Terrified of FF he is, and so he should be; his whole modus operandi is being challenged, and if brains were pennies I know which my money would be on. though they'll likely have to play a long game. The deck is stacked, but anyone who'll put this guy Prayuth in front of a firing party for treason will likely get my vote.

 

I met one of the local FF guys a few weeks back, seems like a very sensible guy, even if he is a Thai. He'll get my vote (in theory anyway. anyone with an IQ of more than 100 isn't allowed a vote in Thailand - don't know why ????) based only of the quality of his long game.. Hope I'm still around to see the inevitable triupmph as  Thailand is dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. Doubt I will be though, my shelf life is 1 day shorter every day - seems to be a natural law.

 

 

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by ParkerN