Migrants clash with Greek police at border after Turkey opens floodgates

[smedly]

3 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

News coverage is a disgrace, always using some crying kid they sought out or a newly born baby for empathy value while ignoring the question why these people are where they are and what right have they to be there.

Skynews interviewed some and they were Afgan - what were they doing in Syria ?

 

up to no good IMO

[ivor bigun]

52 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

I can see 5 and i was not even looking really hard!

 

Not looking hard for at least half an hour ,5 out of 5 thousand ,wow.

i think i can see one ,but it could be just a man hard to tell with many of their women and the children with beards

[smedly]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘They are not rants’, followed by generalized derogatory remarks against immigrants, exceptionalism of expats in Thailand and anti Muslim diatribe thrown in for good measure.

These people make a mess of their own muslim countries - they have various factions fighting amongst themselves - then once they have destroyed what they have in their own countries they try to enter good old EU and once there they proceed on a path of destruction there too - sorry but that is the truth, the sooner the UK gets its border tightly shut the better and send them all back to where they came from

 

If the prophet Muhamad is so great how come these vile people end up in such a mess

[JHolmesJr]

This is how Trump would have tackled Erdogan.

 

"Erdy, for every refugee you let past, we will send 100 turks back."

 

End of story....Europe needs to grow a pair....specially Angela and Macron.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

I can see 5 and i was not even looking really hard!

 

hard to spot because the women look like men - beard and all

[248900_1469958220]

Imagine there's no countries....woo hoo hoo  hoo.....No, borders MAN !!!

[Forethat]

1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

I can see 5 and i was not even looking really hard!

 

I can see five as well, but I actually had to look really hard. I have marked them out. I might have missed a couple.

 

Gender statistic is available for migrants arriving by sea to the EU. For 2015 the number was 83% men. I struggle to find similar data for migrants arriving on foot. If we disregard how they arrived, the number is 63% men. 

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Asylum_statistics#Age_and_gender_of_first-time_applicants

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:

This is how Trump would have tackled Erdogan.

 

"Erdy, for every refugee you let past, we will send 100 turks back."

 

End of story....Europe needs to grow a pair....specially Angela and Macron.

Trump’s interactions with ‘Erdy’ are off topic here, just as well because you’d not like hearing about it.

[Saint Nick]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

hard to spot because the women look like men - beard and all

ah...I love the smell of bigotry, misogynism and rascism in the early afternoon!

[JustAnotherHun]

seems that Greece is willing to hold its land borders while hundreds of "asylum seekers" are invading Greek islands. The scenes there look like a civil war. Locals try to prevent migrant boats from landing, NGO members and journalists are attacked and the Greek government suspends applications for asylum for one month.

[nemo38]

We have seen multiculturalism is a failure. It has made the west a more violent and divided place. 

 

I'd gladly pay to house these people somewhere safe in Africa where they know they are 100% going home once the crisis has passed. 

 

The same goes for anyone who settled in the west in the last 30 years as an asylum seeker. They and their kids must go home. We only have one home. 

[Opl]

"Refugees and migrants seen heading to the borders reportedly include Syrians, Iranians, Iraqis, Pakistanis, Afghans and Moroccans."

https://news.sky.com/story/turkey-opens-its-borders-to-europe-for-refugees-as-syria-conflict-escalates-11945133

"In Istanbul, buses are even dispatched by AKP district mayors to encourage refugees to leave.
On site, they discover that their trip is even free and organized.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/28/turkish-mayor-arranges-free-bus-services-for-refugees-to-the-border-with-greece

[Saint Nick]

9 minutes ago, nemo38 said:

We have seen multiculturalism is a failure. It has made the west a more violent and divided place. 

 

I'd gladly pay to house these people somewhere safe in Africa where they know they are 100% going home once the crisis has passed. 

 

The same goes for anyone who settled in the west in the last 30 years as an asylum seeker. They and their kids must go home. We only have one home. 

a) no you wouldn't!

b) what...like in Dafour?

c) and yours happened to be in one of the richer countries, right!? How lucky you are?

Or did you -by any chance- move to Thailand?

Then please die on that hill, you just so bravely climbed and go home!

We have only one home!

[DrTuner]

Somebody throwing stones is an invader, not an immigrant. Guard the border.

[Forethat]

1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

a) no you wouldn't!

b) what...like in Dafour?

c) and yours happened to be in one of the richer countries, right!? How lucky you are?

Or did you -by any chance- move to Thailand?

Then please die on that hill, you just so bravely climbed and go home!

We have only one home!

b) Well, if I may suggest, refugees from Syria could, for instance, seek refuge in a part of Syria where there is no war and no unrest. Perhaps they could go to the seaside party town Latakia?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/08/17/syria-latakia-beach-party-town-lon-orig-ejk.cnn

 

In case you fancy visiting the place for a holiday in the sun, lots of trips available on Tripadvisor. 

 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Vacation_Packages-g294010-Syria-Vacations.html

 

For instance, Cote d'Azur de Cham Resort seems like a bargain. 

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g297903-d301087-Reviews-Cote_d_Azur_de_Cham_Resort_Lattakia-Lattakia_Lattakia_Governorate.html

[JustAnotherHun]

Even Syrian "refugees" with asylum status in Germany go for holidays to Syria.

[wabothai]

10 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

News coverage is a disgrace, always using some crying kid they sought out or a newly born baby for empathy value while ignoring the question why these people are where they are and what right have they to be there.

False: news media mostly show young men, and coverage of news is certainly not a disgrace.

[nemo38]

4 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

a) no you wouldn't!

b) what...like in Dafour?

c) and yours happened to be in one of the richer countries, right!? How lucky you are?

Or did you -by any chance- move to Thailand?

Then please die on that hill, you just so bravely climbed and go home!

We have only one home!

 

It is possible for the UN, or some other body, to make a safe place in Africa where people can be housed and given a bag of rice a day until the crisis passes. It will take away incentives for economic migrants.

 

Most people would kick in some cash to make this work, especially if problem foreign groups were repatriated out of the west as part of the package.

 

I didn't move to Thailand. Lovely place though. Thai people, just like people from my country, don't want to be replaced in their own country. 

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Sadly not.

 

The repetitive rants against immigrants this board attracts are not something to joke about.

Got room for a couple in your des res?

[DannyCarlton]

17 minutes ago, nemo38 said:

It is possible for the UN, or some other body, to make a safe place in Africa where people can be housed and given a bag of rice a day until the crisis passes. It will take away incentives for economic migrants.

90% of Syria is a safe place. Their young men are needed to rebuild their country. Give each and every one of them a trowel and put them on the next bus to Damascus.

 

You know it makes sense.

[kingdong]

9 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Your post like this personify the political correctness of the liberal left that so many Europeans are now reacting against.

 

Whole areas of cities and towns in Europe have been transformed by migrants, some legal, some illegal, like this. And not for the better.

Which is the reason britain voted to leave ,the working classes were suffering from the "freedom of movement" and voted accordingly .

[gk10002000]

I do understand the immigration thing, both from a refugee point of view and from those that are just trying to move to what they hope is a better place.  But storming a border of a country and breaking that country's laws is tantamount to invading the country.

[Orton Rd]

9 hours ago, smedly said:

Skynews interviewed some and they were Afgan - what were they doing in Syria ?

 

up to no good IMO

Later I saw some Pakistanis as well, must be a war we never heard about going on!

[Orton Rd]

3 hours ago, wabothai said:

False: news media mostly show young men, and coverage of news is certainly not a disgrace.

Mostly young men because 90% of them are but that did not stop Sky news sorting out a little kiddie crying and another irresponsible mother holding up a 5 day old baby for compassion points. These people are actually criminals as they are breaking immigration laws and they should almost all be sent HOME by the Turks, and not unleashed onto western Europe.

[lungbing]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

Later I saw some Pakistanis as well, must be a war we never heard about going on!

We certainly have heard about this war.  Its been going against Christianity for 1,400 years.

[DannyCarlton]

14 hours ago, kingdong said:

Which is the reason britain voted to leave ,the working classes were suffering from the "freedom of movement" and voted accordingly .

Leaving the Eu has made zero difference to "freedom of movement" of non EU citizens.

[overherebc]

On 3/2/2020 at 6:31 AM, Orton Rd said:

Not refugees but more illegal economic migrants, fit young men mostly from safe countries. They should claim asylum in Turkey then the Turks should decline it and send them all back home. Europe cannot take the whole world in.

Put on their countries uniform and fight to make their country better.

Bleeding hearts can flame me all they want to.

[overherebc]

18 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

90% of Syria is a safe place. Their young men are needed to rebuild their country. Give each and every one of them a trowel and put them on the next bus to Damascus.

 

You know it makes sense.

Wouldn't work. It wouldn't be free hand outs. It would involve them doing something constructive.

A long time ago I was regularly in and out of  Damascus and it was really quite a nice place to be. Would hate to see what it looks like now.

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Leaving the Eu has made zero difference to "freedom of movement" of non EU citizens.

Did I say it did?no ,trouble. Is once they access the eu there's nothing stopping the host country giving them a passport and they would have had the right to enter and reside in the uk.if you haven,t got a valid point to raise don,t bother rather than trying to put words in people's mouths and not doing a very good job of it.

[DannyCarlton]

11 hours ago, kingdong said:

Did I say it did?no ,trouble. Is once they access the eu there's nothing stopping the host country giving them a passport and they would have had the right to enter and reside in the uk.if you haven,t got a valid point to raise don,t bother rather than trying to put words in people's mouths and not doing a very good job of it.

In Germany, it would take 8 years for an asylum seeker to achieve full German citizenship and be able to move freely within the EU, by which time they and their family would have learned German, found employment, attended German schools. Why would they then want to move to the UK?