Thai human trafficker sentenced in Switzerland for exploiting compatriots

[Laughing Gravy]

1 minute ago, Logosone said:

It was Switzerland, so basically Germany,

Tell that to the Swiss. You must be thinking of the 1930s.

 

2 minutes ago, Logosone said:

The point is that human trafficking is a feminist fantasy

Again they were abused and exploited and you trying to justify it makes you less than of moral character.

 

3 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Do you seriously believe this aged Thai woman slapped the prostitutes until they were compliant?

Do you know different.

 

3 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Is there any evidence they were 'forced' whatsoever?

I guess there is as she received 10 plus years by the courts.

[Just Weird]

19 minutes ago, Logosone said:

It was Switzerland, so basically Germany, and in both places prostitution is legal.

Organised brothels where these trafficked women have to work are not legal in Switzerland or Germany, and Switzerland is not "basically Germany".

[metisdead]

An off topic deflection troll post and the replies have been removed. 

[atyclb]

snippet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking

 

to any doubters human trafficking is very real and there an ever increasing body of evidence via raids and prosecutions worldwide

 

 

 

Human trafficking is the trade of humans for the purpose of forced labour, sexual slavery, or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others.[1][2] This may encompass providing a spouse in the context of forced marriage,[3][4][5] or the extraction of organs or tissues,[6][7] including for surrogacy and ova removal.[8] Human trafficking can occur within a country or trans-nationally. Human trafficking is a crime against the person because of the violation of the victim's rights of movement through coercion and because of their commercial exploitation.[9] Human trafficking is the trade in people, especially women and children, and does not necessarily involve the movement of the person from one place to another.[10][11]

People smuggling (also called human smuggling and migrant smuggling) is a related practice which is characterized by the consent of the person being smuggled.[12] Smuggling situations can descend into human trafficking through coercion and exploitation.[13] Trafficked people are held against their will through acts of coercion, and forced to work for or provide services to the trafficker or others.

According to the International Labour Organization (ILO), forced labour alone (one component of human trafficking) generates an estimated $150 billion in profits per annum as of 2014.[14] In 2012, the ILO estimated that 21 million victims are trapped in modern-day slavery. Of these, 14.2 million (68%) were exploited for labour, 4.5 million (22%) were sexually exploited, and 2.2 million (10%) were exploited in state-imposed forced labour.[15] The International Labour Organization has reported that child workers, minorities, and irregular migrants are at considerable risk of more extreme forms of exploitation. Statistics shows that over half of the world's 215 million young workers are observed to be in hazardous sectors, including forced sex work and forced street begging.[16] Ethnic minorities and highly marginalized groups of people are highly estimated to work in some of the most exploitative and damaging sectors, such as leather tanning, mining, and stone quarry work.[17]

Human trafficking is thought to be one of the fastest-growing activities of trans-national criminal organizations.[18]

Human trafficking is condemned as a violation of human rights by international conventions. In addition, human trafficking is subject to a directive in the European Union.[19] According to a report by the U.S. State Department, Belarus, Iran, Russia, and Turkmenistan remain among the worst countries when it comes to providing protection against human trafficking and forced labour.[20][10]

Edited March 9, 2020 by atyclb

[atyclb]

 

[tgw]

1 hour ago, atyclb said:

snippet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking

 

to any doubters human trafficking is very real and there an ever increasing body of evidence via raids and prosecutions worldwide

 

 

 

Human trafficking is the trade of humans for the purpose of forced labour, sexual slavery, or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others.[1][2] This may encompass providing a spouse in the context of forced marriage,[3][4][5] or the extraction of organs or tissues,[6][7] including for surrogacy and ova removal.[8] Human trafficking can occur within a country or trans-nationally. Human trafficking is a crime against the person because of the violation of the victim's rights of movement through coercion and because of their commercial exploitation.[9] Human trafficking is the trade in people, especially women and children, and does not necessarily involve the movement of the person from one place to another.[10][11]

People smuggling (also called human smuggling and migrant smuggling) is a related practice which is characterized by the consent of the person being smuggled.[12] Smuggling situations can descend into human trafficking through coercion and exploitation.[13] Trafficked people are held against their will through acts of coercion, and forced to work for or provide services to the trafficker or others.

According to the International Labour Organization (ILO), forced labour alone (one component of human trafficking) generates an estimated $150 billion in profits per annum as of 2014.[14] In 2012, the ILO estimated that 21 million victims are trapped in modern-day slavery. Of these, 14.2 million (68%) were exploited for labour, 4.5 million (22%) were sexually exploited, and 2.2 million (10%) were exploited in state-imposed forced labour.[15] The International Labour Organization has reported that child workers, minorities, and irregular migrants are at considerable risk of more extreme forms of exploitation. Statistics shows that over half of the world's 215 million young workers are observed to be in hazardous sectors, including forced sex work and forced street begging.[16] Ethnic minorities and highly marginalized groups of people are highly estimated to work in some of the most exploitative and damaging sectors, such as leather tanning, mining, and stone quarry work.[17]

Human trafficking is thought to be one of the fastest-growing activities of trans-national criminal organizations.[18]

Human trafficking is condemned as a violation of human rights by international conventions. In addition, human trafficking is subject to a directive in the European Union.[19] According to a report by the U.S. State Department, Belarus, Iran, Russia, and Turkmenistan remain among the worst countries when it comes to providing protection against human trafficking and forced labour.[20][10]

this is the type of reality we think about when we hear "human trafficking", yet the term covers many other things which make up the majority of cases followed by the police, namely:

- helping migrants over the border -> human trafficking

- booking an escort from another country and paying her plane ticket -> human trafficking

- knowingly letting illegal migrants sleep at your home/hotel -> human trafficking

etc. etc.

 

as is usual for that kind of crime, the laws are made to combat horrible things, yet in reality they are in the vest majority of cases misused to slam the hammer on people who didn't deserve that kind of treatment, while too many criminals get away with the real crimes the laws were meant to stamp out.

Edited March 9, 2020 by tgw

[observer90210]

Europe should deport these criminals back to Thailand who operate from their borders. Just as the Thai's do so with the Europeans who overstay. (c) lex talionis

[tgw]

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Tell that to the Swiss. You must be thinking of the 1930s.

 

Again they were abused and exploited and you trying to justify it makes you less than of moral character.

 

Do you know different.

 

I guess there is as she received 10 plus years by the courts.

 

the sentence is from 2018, I don't know why this comes up in the news now.

 

to anyone wondering what the woman did, here it is (translated from German):

 

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A Thai woman has drawn at least 75 women from Thailand to Switzerland. She initially calculated the women large sums for the flight from Thailand to Switzerland and fake visas and then distributed them to various brothels. They forced them to work around the clock, constantly monitored them and often personally took most of their wages/cash from them. The women knew that the would work as prostitutes, but didn't know about the harsh work conditions.

this summary describes many things that are forbidden in Switzerland, such as monitoring, taking the wage away, charging a large sum for flights and visas, setting work schedules, etc.

so she was rightly sentenced for breaking Swiss laws on pimping (which is an allowed activity when carried out in accordance with the Law).

[atyclb]

14 hours ago, tgw said:

this is the type of reality we think about when we hear "human trafficking", yet the term covers many other things which make up the majority of cases followed by the police, namely:

- helping migrants over the border -> human trafficking

- booking an escort from another country and paying her plane ticket -> human trafficking

- knowingly letting illegal migrants sleep at your home/hotel -> human trafficking

etc. etc.

 

as is usual for that kind of crime, the laws are made to combat horrible things, yet in reality they are in the vest majority of cases misused to slam the hammer on people who didn't deserve that kind of treatment, while too many criminals get away with the real crimes the laws were meant to stamp out.

 

links to statistics that support your claims.

 

paying plane ticket for real gf to visit is different from funding a pimp or gang controlled escort that in essence is a human slave

 

http://www.traumacenter.org/products/pdf_files/Invisible_Chains.pdf

Edited March 10, 2020 by atyclb

[tgw]

7 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

links to statistics that support your claims.

 

paying plane ticket for real gf to visit is different from funding a pimp or gang controlled escort that in essence is a human slave

you research your statistics yourself.

it's pretty obvious that such statistics won't be published, nobody in the legal apparatus wants their record of combating human trafficking tarnished.

 

and about the escort, I heard about a real case that took place in Paris years ago.

I'll do a 2 minutes search later to turn up a reference, but I won't waste much time on it.

[RJRS1301]

On 3/9/2020 at 7:16 PM, Laughing Gravy said:

Is there any evidence they were 'forced' whatsoever?

Possibly had their passports removed, housed in places where they could not leave freely or unescorted.

The Swiss are meticulous in their evidence gathering

[RJRS1301]

22 hours ago, observer90210 said:

Europe should deport these criminals back to Thailand who operate from their borders. Just as the Thai's do so with the Europeans who overstay. (c) lex talionis

Deport them After they serve the sentence, as they have not committted an offence in Thailand they would be free on arrival if not prisoner programe agreement exists

[observer90210]

11 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Deport them After they serve the sentence, as they have not committted an offence in Thailand they would be free on arrival if not prisoner programe agreement exists

So I see.....however many EU nations charge their own citizens for crimes of pedophilia/human trafficking and other serious offences abroad and they are still liable to law once they are back home after having served a sentence abroad.  But you say it's not the case in Thailand, well...so be it....pity however.

[metisdead]

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[atyclb]

1 hour ago, tgw said:

8 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

links to statistics that support your claims.

 

paying plane ticket for real gf to visit is different from funding a pimp or gang controlled escort that in essence is a human slave

you research your statistics yourself.

it's pretty obvious that such statistics won't be published, nobody in the legal apparatus wants their record of combating human trafficking tarnished.

 

and about the escort, I heard about a real case that took place in Paris years ago.

I'll do a 2 minutes search later to turn up a reference, but I won't waste much time on it.

 

 

they are your claims thus one would assume you can cite and have reviewed pertinent statistics.

 

by saying it is obvious such statistics wont be published removes the teeth of your argument / claim.

 

 

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