New York governor sees 'return to normalcy' with rapid coronavirus testing

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New York governor sees 'return to normalcy' with rapid coronavirus testing

By Nathan Layne

 

FILE PHOTO: A medical technician takes a sample to test for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) at a drive through testing site in Medford, Massachusetts, U.S., April 4, 2020. REUTERS/Brian Snyder/File Photo

 

(Reuters) - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said on Sunday he believed there needed to be a mass rollout of rapid testing in order to achieve a "return to normalcy" after the peak of the novel coronavirus crisis passes in the United States in the coming weeks and months.

 

Cuomo, whose state is the epicenter of the outbreak in the United States, said New York was part of an effort to develop a program that would identify people who are both negative and not in a vulnerable category, allowing them to go back to work.

 

"I think you see the return to normalcy when we have an approved rapid testing program that can be brought to scale, Cuomo told a daily briefing on the coronavirus response. "That is going to be the answer, I believe."

 

New York, the hardest-hit state, reported on Sunday that there were nearly 600 new deaths for a total of 4,159 deaths and 122,000 total cases. Across the United States over 321,000 people have tested positive and more than 9,100 have died, according to a Reuters tally.

 

Cuomo's remarks come amid controversy over the dual messages from President Donald Trump, who has both warned of large deaths in the coming weeks while also talking about the need for Americans to return to work and to get the economy running.

 

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on Sunday that increased testing would be critical to the government's decision on when to relax business closures and other social-distancing steps.

 

"That becomes critical when you plan to start to get back to normal, or at least take those first steps to getting back to normal," Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease official, said on CBS' "Face the Nation" program.

 

While testing capacity has ramped up in recent weeks, the United States has lagged far behind other industrialized nations in coronavirus testing that public health officials believe is crucial to gaining some control over its spread.

 

Cuomo did not provide details about the rapid testing he said was under development.

 

Last week the mayor of Detroit said his city had started using test kits from Abbott Laboratories that produce results in less than 15 minutes.

 

When asked about Trump's comments on Saturday that he would like to see the restart of sporting events as soon as possible, Cuomo said it was best to defer to the medical experts.

 

New York is bracing for the apex of hospitalizations in the next week or so, and Cuomo said on Sunday it was too soon to tell if it was nearing a plateau in the crisis.

 

"I would love to see sports back, help with cabin fever. But this is not about hopes and dreams and aspirations and what you would like to see," Cuomo said.

 

(Reporting by Nathan Layne in Wilton, Connecticut and Timothy Ahmann in Washington; Editing by Lisa Shumaker)

 

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[Yellowtail]

Good news that

[UbonThani]

Sports can isolate. Big hotel. All teams. All officials.

 

 

[Sambotte]

Obvious and known since weeks...

 

Worrying is it does not seen to be decided yet.

[Tug]

Let’s hope he’s correct I certainly have more faith in governor Cuomo than trump 

[blazes]

Having "faith" in a politician is a sad sign of a passivity which, as history teaches us, leads all too often to disaster.

[Chomper Higgot]

38 minutes ago, blazes said:

Having "faith" in a politician is a sad sign of a passivity which, as history teaches us, leads all too often to disaster.

Said without one iota of introspection.

 

[blazes]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Said without one iota of introspection.

 

 

I want to be just like you, Chomps.....

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, blazes said:

Having "faith" in a politician is a sad sign of a passivity which, as history teaches us, leads all too often to disaster.

In the context of Trump, we can make an exception. 

[charmonman]

1 hour ago, blazes said:

Having "faith" in a politician is a sad sign of a passivity which, as history teaches us, leads all too often to disaster.

Replace the word “faith” with “confidence”. Is that any better?

In any case we don’t have much choice; they’re the ones with the power to do what is required. We can’t fight this as rugged individualists can we? 

[blazes]

7 minutes ago, charmonman said:

Replace the word “faith” with “confidence”. Is that any better?

In any case we don’t have much choice; they’re the ones with the power to do what is required. We can’t fight this as rugged individualists can we? 

 

You raise an excellent issue: alas, what I derive from your opinion is that it is useless for individuals to band together and seek change in society.  Correct?

 

If the likes of Mao or Ho Chi Minh and all the revolutionaries of history had held this view  their particular slave societies would never have progressed.  (Leave aside for one moment the natural inclination of the average American to view those names as the ultimate anathema).

But at home (in the USA) one could argue that Martin Luther King would never have gotten anywhere with the passive view that resisting one's government is impossible.

 

(Needless to say, "resistance' does not consist of coming on to ThaiVisa and virtue-signalling one's hatred of the POTUS!!!)

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, blazes said:

 

You raise an excellent issue: alas, what I derive from your opinion is that it is useless for individuals to band together and seek change in society.  Correct?

 

If the likes of Mao or Ho Chi Minh and all the revolutionaries of history had held this view  their particular slave societies would never have progressed.  (Leave aside for one moment the natural inclination of the average American to view those names as the ultimate anathema).

But at home (in the USA) one could argue that Martin Luther King would never have gotten anywhere with the passive view that resisting one's government is impossible.

 

(Needless to say, "resistance' does not consist of coming on to ThaiVisa and virtue-signalling one's hatred of the POTUS!!!)

Because of course holding and expressing negative views of Trump must be ‘virtue signaling’. 

 

The possibility that negative views arise from the utter failure and unfitness of Trump is not something you wish to consider.

 

 

[blazes]

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Because of course holding and expressing negative views of Trump must be ‘virtue signaling’. 

 

The possibility that negative views arise from the utter failure and unfitness of Trump is not something you wish to consider.

 

 

 

Dear Chomps: I confess I haven't read ALL of your zillion short bursts over the years, but in those little spitlets that I have foolishly read, I have never yet seen you announce to the world what you would do if you were elected POTUS to ...er...improve the world in general and the US in particular.  Don't tell us what Trump has not done or failed to do, just tell us what policy change you would bring about. 

 

I urge you (if you take up this challenge) to refrain from talking about people...people you would appoint to this or that position.  Just stick to POLICY, with no particular human beings being mentioned.  In other words, get rid of the red cloud of hatred, and see yourself in a new light.

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, blazes said:

 

Dear Chomps: I confess I haven't read ALL of your zillion short bursts over the years, but in those little spitlets that I have foolishly read, I have never yet seen you announce to the world what you would do if you were elected POTUS to ...er...improve the world in general and the US in particular.  Don't tell us what Trump has not done or failed to do, just tell us what policy change you would bring about. 

 

I urge you (if you take up this challenge) to refrain from talking about people...people you would appoint to this or that position.  Just stick to POLICY, with no particular human beings being mentioned.  In other words, get rid of the red cloud of hatred, and see yourself in a new light.

Dear Blazes, I’m not the POTUS and have no ambition to be the POTUS.

 

As you say, you’ve not read all my missives* so please don’t tell me what I haven’t said.

 

I do get it, you don’t like others, seemingly me in particular, commenting on Trump’s myriad shortcomings. Perhaps you could defend his shortcomings and if not able to do so admit them for what they are, but no, you choose to attack those who point out Trump’s continuing failures, lies and abuses of the office he holds.

 

I see you’ve flipped from the canned accusation of ‘virtue signaling’ to the pre-cooked accusation of ‘hatred’.

 

* For the sake of civility I’ve not used the invective language you yourself have resorted to.

[jany123]

1 hour ago, blazes said:

 

Dear Chomps: I confess I haven't read ALL of your zillion short bursts over the years, but in those little spitlets that I have foolishly read, I have never yet seen you announce to the world what you would do if you were elected POTUS to ...er...improve the world in general and the US in particular.  Don't tell us what Trump has not done or failed to do, just tell us what policy change you would bring about. 

 

I urge you (if you take up this challenge) to refrain from talking about people...people you would appoint to this or that position.  Just stick to POLICY, with no particular human beings being mentioned.  In other words, get rid of the red cloud of hatred, and see yourself in a new light.

Chopper is not begging for a position of power. People who crave power thru political means, need policy.... not an individual. What a sad argument.

 

the individuals role in a democracy is to acquaint himself with the policies of potential leaders, vote accordingly (responsibly), then hold the voted for individual responsible for its actions in governing on behalf of the individual.

 

this is done by judging failure and success. Kinda basic stuff for people living in a democracy. This judgement allows for a more educated voter choice in future. This is how democracy should work... voting on informed judgement.

 

The poster you attack consistently posts facts with informative and relevant links, which is needed to stay informed... whereas funnily enough, those posting in objection to fact, are perverting democracy and dumbing down the world, which is shameful.

 

oh... I see... so solly... information condemns trump... I see your problem... the king has no cloths.

Edited April 6, 2020 by jany123

[blazes]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Dear Blazes, I’m not the POTUS and have no ambition to be the POTUS.

 

As you say, you’ve not read all my missives* so please don’t tell me what I haven’t said.

 

I do get it, you don’t like others, seemingly me in particular, commenting on Trump’s myriad shortcomings. Perhaps you could defend his shortcomings and if not able to do so admit them for what they are, but no, you choose to attack those who point out Trump’s continuing failures, lies and abuses of the office he holds.

 

I see you’ve flipped from the canned accusation of ‘virtue signaling’ to the pre-cooked accusation of ‘hatred’.

 

* For the sake of civility I’ve not used the invective language you yourself have resorted to.

Ah, yes, I bow to your superior civility. 

 

Poor Chomps: you have (possibly as usual in these matters?) deflected my challenge into something you instead want, rather obsessively, to talk about.  (Btw, why would you suppose I thought you were the POTUS?  I merely put to you, what most elementary school-children can understand, the fantasy question -- which children easily answer).

 

In case I am confusing you, let me simplify:

 

the question I put to you was along the same lines as "what would you do with a million dollars if you won the lottery?")

 

But why should we bore other people with your hatred and my apparent "defence" of the POTUS?  (So I won't wag my tail waiting for an answer.)

[DrTuner]

Testing will provide data. Then you still need to be able to effectively use this data, meaning contact tracing and that means somehow having the geodata history from those that get tested positive. Which means a mobile app with GPS and then the privacy people start barfing blood. It's still an uphill battle but yes, accurate and adequate testing is the key.

[jany123]

5 hours ago, blazes said:

Having "faith" in a politician is a sad sign of a passivity which, as history teaches us, leads all too often to disaster.

Do you mean that having faith in cuomo is a recipe for disaster, or any politician, including the trump?

 

my view is that cuomo has stepped up and is the only politician truthfully advising Americans of what is and isn’t happening... sort of like a fireside chat to quell panic.

 

this is the measure of a leader. One that should be recognized, lauded and copied. Cuomo is proof that America has some very very good people... great peoples, that it can proudly point too.

 

unfortunately the man elected to lead the nation has failed miserably. In his former life as an unscrupulous cold hearted businessman, this leader would have been shuttering the business (of America) and declaring it bankrupt, like everything else he has failed at.... as his ultimate m/o (chapter nine) cannot be applied to the once great nation, trump is lost.... and to make matters worse, he fired all the experts because, you know, you just rehire them when you need them whilst applying for a court injunction to delay unsavory issues impacting... and attempt to bankrupt allies/ associates in order to stave of personal disaster.

 

lol... there’s trumps policy for ya!

 

 

[jany123]

18 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Testing will provide data. Then you still need to be able to effectively use this data, meaning contact tracing and that means somehow having the geodata history from those that get tested positive. Which means a mobile app with GPS and then the privacy people start barfing blood. It's still an uphill battle but yes, accurate and adequate testing is the key.

Surely those smart to be tested will be smart enough to be contactable. Surely those needing testing, would be smart enough to be contactable.

 

rogues will be rogues... these are the wild cards... dumb people will be the death of us all.

 

of course, faulty information spread amongst dumb people will make the situation worse.... it is this faulty information that is the real danger. Simple clear messages will encourage those people to conform to societal needs..

Fortunately this article is about a leader capable of putting self interests asides to honestly address the world, giving those people a better understanding and the opportunity to do right by the community, instead of themselves.

[jany123]

1 hour ago, blazes said:

Ah, yes, I bow to your superior civility. 

 

Poor Chomps: you have (possibly as usual in these matters?) deflected my challenge into something you instead want, rather obsessively, to talk about.  (Btw, why would you suppose I thought you were the POTUS?  I merely put to you, what most elementary school-children can understand, the fantasy question -- which children easily answer).

 

In case I am confusing you, let me simplify:

 

the question I put to you was along the same lines as "what would you do with a million dollars if you won the lottery?")

 

But why should we bore other people with your hatred and my apparent "defence" of the POTUS?  (So I won't wag my tail waiting for an answer.)

Lmao... how juvenile.

 

hopefully chopper doesn’t give you the rote school child or beauty pageant contestant answer of “world peace”.... 555 and how would a lotto win change things. It’s a fantasy question. (I’d buy a ski lodge in the Tahoe area????... and learn to fly a helicopter)

 

leaders have policy. They should be accountable for their policy. Future votes should be based on truth, not misinformation. Truth is obtained from a liar, by continual questioning. That the liar in question, is the leader of the free world (18000 or so demonstrable), should scare everyone. Protecting that person, instead of demanding truth, is (imho) fanatical.

 

wag tail? Waiting on choppers reply, I’m thinking it’s more likely tween your legs ????

Edited April 6, 2020 by jany123

[blazes]

34 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Lmao... how juvenile.

 

hopefully chopper doesn’t give you the rote school child or beauty pageant contestant answer of “world peace”.... 555 and how would a lotto win change things. It’s a fantasy question. (I’d buy a ski lodge in the Tahoe area????... and learn to fly a helicopter)

 

leaders have policy. They should be accountable for their policy. Future votes should be based on truth, not misinformation. Truth is obtained from a liar, by continual questioning. That the liar in question, is the leader of the free world (18000 or so demonstrable), should scare everyone. Protecting that person, instead of demanding truth, is (imho) fanatical.

 

wag tail? Waiting on choppers reply, I’m thinking it’s more likely tween your legs ????

Glad to see you agree that leaders should be judged on their policies.

 

However, I guess if we are talking "juvenile" we should draw attention to the ludicrous notion that "continual questioning" will expose a "liar." !!!!  Come forth, George Dubya Bush and Tony Blair, two of the most outrageous liars in recent memory, whose lies about WMD actually led to the deaths of thousands more people than will likely be affected by this present virus.  (And the Middle Eastern deaths stretched way way beyond the actual months of the Western invasion in 2003.)

 

This continual singling out of Trump as seemingly the only lying politician in the world is singularly juvenile and unintelligent.  And not just politicians....the worst liars are those who lie to themselves.

[Chomper Higgot]

34 minutes ago, blazes said:

Glad to see you agree that leaders should be judged on their policies.

 

However, I guess if we are talking "juvenile" we should draw attention to the ludicrous notion that "continual questioning" will expose a "liar." !!!!  Come forth, George Dubya Bush and Tony Blair, two of the most outrageous liars in recent memory, whose lies about WMD actually led to the deaths of thousands more people than will likely be affected by this present virus.  (And the Middle Eastern deaths stretched way way beyond the actual months of the Western invasion in 2003.)

 

This continual singling out of Trump as seemingly the only lying politician in the world is singularly juvenile and unintelligent.  And not just politicians....the worst liars are those who lie to themselves.

Singling out Trump?

 

He is the current President of the United States and he’s failing miserably to do his job.

 

It’s not simply a failure of policy, though that in itself is bad enough.

 

He fired the Pandemic Response Team.

He abolished the post of the US Disease Intelligence Officer in China.

aHe shipped nearly 18tons off medical supplies to China and did absolutely nothing to replace them, let alone figure out the US might soon need similar  medical supplies and do something about it.

He played down the risk.

He ran his mouth with his predictions of where the infection rates where going.

He sat on his hands (and/or played golf) for six weeks doing nothing to prepare the nation.

He lies in front of the press and then attacks the press when they ask him ‘nasty  questions’.

He has still not rolled out any national coordinated response.

He lied about the quantity of supplies available the FEMA.

And in his own words he said:

 

’I don’t take any responsibility at all’.

 

Why on earth would anyone single out Trump I wonder?!

 

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[jak2002003]

'Normality' please...…………  

 

Normalcy?!

 

 

[jany123]

18 minutes ago, blazes said:

Glad to see you agree that leaders should be judged on their policies.

 

However, I guess if we are talking "juvenile" we should draw attention to the ludicrous notion that "continual questioning" will expose a "liar." !!!!  Come forth, George Dubya Bush and Tony Blair, two of the most outrageous liars in recent memory, whose lies about WMD actually led to the deaths of thousands more people than will likely be affected by this present virus.  (And the Middle Eastern deaths stretched way way beyond the actual months of the Western invasion in 2003.)

 

This continual singling out of Trump as seemingly the only lying politician in the world is singularly juvenile and unintelligent.  And not just politicians....the worst liars are those who lie to themselves.

Indeed... all world leaders should be judged on this... this is a critical part of leading a people’s... failure in crisis demands a change of leadership.

 

the notion that continual questioning will expose a lie is an essential part of the modern judicial system in democratic countries.... examination and cross examination of witness etc. they do this to... ta da... sort fiction from fact. Suggesting that this is incorrect is kinda crazy.

 

bush and Blair... outrageous liars... I don’t know, as no one thought it necessary to fact check them as their lies weren’t deemed as multifarious or damaging as trumps... but neither were democrats, so if your trying to hilight a trait by non liberal leaders, then well done, mission accomplished.

 

And... it’s a timely reminder of American aggression... attacking a sovereign state by virtue of self made misinformation.... kinda reminds me of Iran’s current problem with trump and misinformation about Iran

 

this self made information is also being created around covid, by trump, which is pathetic and dangerous.... and he’s now gagging doc fauci, his most senior medical advisor, to prevent him from speaking truth about those lies.

 

but why sling off at trump? Well gee... perhaps it’s trump, out of all the world leaders, who is best positioned to use his platform for the good of the world, yet fails to do so, electing to spread dangerous misinformation, at an unparalleled scale, from that platform.

 

if you think other leaders need attacking for their advise to their electorate, please name a couple. Without names, we must assume that no one else qualifies.... try supporting your assertions with fact if you wish to be taken seriously. 

 

 

[jany123]

19 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

'Normality' please...…………  

 

Normalcy?!

 

 

“Normality”... English.

“normalcy”... bastardized English.... much like “color”, or words supplanting an s with a z.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Testing will provide data. Then you still need to be able to effectively use this data, meaning contact tracing and that means somehow having the geodata history from those that get tested positive. Which means a mobile app with GPS and then the privacy people start barfing blood. It's still an uphill battle but yes, accurate and adequate testing is the key.

I believe it’s generally accepted that the testing to isolate boat has already sailed.

 

Perhaps it might be used if social isolation abates the spread - at least in those States that have enacted lock downs.

[Rimmer]

Flame and replies removed

[DrTuner]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I believe it’s generally accepted that the testing to isolate boat has already sailed.

 

Perhaps it might be used if social isolation abates the spread - at least in those States that have enacted lock downs.

Yes, in places where the outbreak is out of control it must be wrangled back into control by using draconian methods, then after that one can revert back to the contact tracing. When governments do lockdowns, they should use that time to prepare massive scale mass testing and other measures that make contact tracing effective. Remains to be seen how many can manage that and how many go into ping-pong mode and re-occurring lockdowns. 

[blazes]

21 hours ago, jany123 said:

Chopper is not begging for a position of power. People who crave power thru political means, need policy.... not an individual. What a sad argument.

 

the individuals role in a democracy is to acquaint himself with the policies of potential leaders, vote accordingly (responsibly), then hold the voted for individual responsible for its actions in governing on behalf of the individual.

 

this is done by judging failure and success. Kinda basic stuff for people living in a democracy. This judgement allows for a more educated voter choice in future. This is how democracy should work... voting on informed judgement.

 

The poster you attack consistently posts facts with informative and relevant links, which is needed to stay informed... whereas funnily enough, those posting in objection to fact, are perverting democracy and dumbing down the world, which is shameful.

 

oh... I see... so solly... information condemns trump... I see your problem... the king has no cloths.

 

Yes, well when the King recovers his lost 'cloths', we'll send him a nice suit of clothes and he can get a dish-washing job in the Hotel Pelosi.